133. Buying Stradman's Rolls Royce, Issues With The Lambo, Suing An Insurance Company w/ Lambo_Dadd

We're gonna go buy a Huracan, so I make a deal with this guy. It ended up being the sketchiest transaction of my entire life. And at one point, I was sure that Bud and I were getting, probably turned into lampshades. Strad actually went and tagged, or pinned, my Comet. So all of a sudden, it's like, brrrrrrr, and I'm like, oh. We're like, we're buying, buying this. It would have to go probably all the way to trial, which we don't want. We don't want that at all. All I want is the damn car fixed.

Yeah.

And I just want it back, and I just want to drive it. I don't have big insurance suing money, but can I ask you the name of the insurance company? Yeah, yeah.

Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the Minnoxide podcast. I'm your host, Harris, aka Minnoxide, man of many automotive aspirations, who's really hopped up on C4 today, by the way.

I can tell you're talking at an immense speed.

And I, what do you mean, next speed?

In immense speed.

Oh, you call me slow? Yeah. Anyways, I'm here with my Ford Loving Co-host, Dan, Mr. Gunnigaraj.

Yep.

And we are here with a long-awaited episode, man. This has been, I want to say, it's got to be close to, I think it's got to be three years in the making. But before I even started the previous podcast, the Whiplash podcast, I put together a list of all the people I'd like to have on the show. It was like a list of 30 or 40 people. Half of them are dead to me now. It's okay. No kidding. But I made the cut. You made the cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think you were like in the top five on that list. I'll have to pull it up. I have it somewhere on my phone. I'll show you later. But we just have never been able to coordinate. You know, we kind of just have been busy in our own ways. And well, without further ado, we're here with Ryan Wheeler, Mr. Lambo Dad. Yeah, dude.

I appreciate you coming out here and making the jaunt. I know it's a waste for you. You live on like the other side of the world.

Yeah. Dan just had to jog over here. It was great.

No, I was working in town. I used to live in this neighborhood. The town home is over by the truck stop.

Yeah, I knew you were close.

Yeah.

Somewhere.

I'm in North Hudson now. We're in the town of Hudson, but through North Hudson.

Make sure for whoever's working on dance Wikipedia, I get that updated. But no, man, you were one of my earliest friends in the car community. And I always like to tell the story like you were one of the first guys to set me straight in this. I should really rephrase that.

This is going good. Double up on that Z4 next time.

Yeah. Maybe not chug the whole thing. But no, but basically like you, when I first got started in this community, I was a photographer and all that stuff and I had a mouth on me. I really need to start rephrasing these things. I was a s*** talker, right?

Yeah.

And you were one of the first guys that called me out on it. And ever since then, we've kind of been friends.

So yeah, I've told the story quite a few times too, because it's actually a really cool story because I have so much respect for what you do now and to watch you grow into what you've built. I'm like, that's b***** because that dude was a little s*** head when he first was. Because I don't think you were a photographer, you were a photog. I think that's what you call yourself.

No, I hated that term back then too.

No, you were one of them though. Early on.

I was involved with those groups. And nothing wrong, just because I'm selling my photography gear doesn't mean I'm giving up on photography. I just enjoy what I do now so much more.

Right, right.

But yeah, I was involved with all those groups. I mean, we're all young kids. I was 17, 18 at the time. It was just a...

Yeah, it was wild.

We were all s*** talkers.

And with what had happened, which we don't even have to go into it, but with what was said about me, it was like 75% dead on, but the 25% that I was grouped in with was not. Cause then that was me and I'm like, no, hell no. And then the other guy's kind of like, well, it's... And I'm like, well, no dude, the shoe fits. You guys can wear it, but I'm not. Cause this ain't me. And yeah, I got all bent out of shape. And it was early in my kind of like social media. So like to have someone kind of attacking me, I'm like, this isn't how we do things. And now I see stuff and I'm like, oh my god, dude, who cares?

Just the necessary smoke at the time though.

Yeah, so it was pretty interesting. And then to the friendship that we built off, cause I had so much respect for you once, cause I mean, he owned right up to it and was like, dude, I kind of made a mistake here. I didn't realize the power of what my words on social media are.

You called it, I think it was like, I think, man, YouTube's not gonna like all this naughty language. I think you called it like shadow ship talking or something like that. Like I was alluding to you, but like everybody knew. Because dude, Minnesota is like the smallest big city, right? Everybody knows everybody granted right across the border, but you're a glorified suburb of Minnesota, as Dan calls it. But I think that was one of my fastest backpedals. I'm like, all right, I because usually people don't get what's coming to them. Yeah, fortunately, that's how the world works. So I was one of the few times. But anyways, I digress, man, like, so it's been sweet.

It's been good because now we've been friends ever since.

Yeah, that was pre-COVID. That was five years ago, man.

That's wild.

Yeah, it's a long time.

But so I hate that this is our new standard of measuring things to, by the way, pre-COVID. Yeah.

Well, now it's like when you look at like, oh, COVID was 2020, like when it started and it's like, oh, it's 2025. Yeah, that feels like it was just, it's like now time can just slow up now.

Yep. It's just, it's just never ending. But, but no, man, you've told me quite a few stories over the years and I always thought like, you'd be a great guest to have on the show. But tell us a little bit how Lambo fam, Lambo dad, how that all came to existence.

Oh, dude.

Why get a Lambo? Why not be Ferrari dad?

Well, I wanted a Lambo just cause that's like, from being a kid, like, so I grew up, had a pretty, I made a lot of like really bad choices and got into addiction and all that and really took a, I always talked about it, like when I was younger, and I haven't shared this for probably five years since last time I did, like, so there's some of it that I'm like, oh dude, how did it even come about? But I always talked about it and I would always put on like Facebook back in the day, like, you know, I'm gonna take my kid to school in a Lamborghini, you know, his first day of high school and everyone be like, yeah, dude, you're like literally a loser. Like you have, you have a terrible job and you hate, you know, most of your life and you just drink and so it was always like I had the, like the haters on there, like, yeah, okay, whatever. And then started, I had started my company and kind of got out of the, just grinded and grinded. Like literally at the time when I was building my company, the only thing I cared about was having a Lamborghini. So I know it sounds bad now, cause like at the time I had like a son and I had a wife that had stuck around me through my really rough times. And when they're like, well, wasn't it like your wife? And I was like, nah, dude, I wanted a Lambo. Like I had a lot of people to try to prove wrong. That's what pushed me to keep going, just because I didn't really know anybody that had one. And I was like, so why? Why not be me? And then finally got to a point where I could afford to buy one. I didn't, what I couldn't afford was that the clutch was going to go out right after I bought it. You know, just the things of driving a car, like a hood wrap that is used for driving a Civic. So all that kind of happened. But in the meantime, I was mentoring in the school and I bought my Lambo and all the kids, they would, they'd come out and they're like, oh dude, what do you do? Cause I've tattooed and I had a Lambo and I was relatively young from what they, you know.

You didn't fit the profile.

Did not fit the profile. So they assumed I was a YouTuber, or like a social media person. And this was early on. So like for these kids, like this is what they saw and they're like, they would always ask me like, what's your YouTube? What's your, how do we confine your videos?

So you got the Lambo first, before the whole YouTube social media thing?

Yeah, there was nothing. Yeah, there was none of that. And so I'm like, well, I don't have any of that. And they're like, you don't want to tell us because you swear, and you don't want to see us swear because you're in here being like a mentor.

Like, oh, okay.

And then finally I'm like, well, why don't I just start a YouTube? And then at the time I'm like, and I wanted to build an Instagram, and I saw the value in having an Instagram.

What time period was this roughly?

So I've had a Lambo now, I think we're coming up on eight years that I've had a Lambo. So, yeah, seven, eight years ago.

Because I know when I popped on the scene, I think you're around like 3000 followers on Instagram.

Yeah, yeah. Before my post. And that took like two years, three years of like doing quite a bit on Instagram. And then I started finding like, I started hanging with these people. My thing was always like, I'm going to network my way into the circles where the people are. And then I'm going to be able to find out a fight, figure out a way to get their money through what I offer through my company, because they'll be friends with me and it'll just, in my head, I had it all figured out. You know, I talked to my accountant, like when I first bought item Maserati first. And when I first bought that, I talked to my accountant because I'm like, Hey dude, I want to buy a car. Cause I want to go to these like kind of more private events. And I want to use it as like my marketing for my business. And he's like, Oh, okay, yeah, buy a car. And then so I buy a Maserati Ghibli SQ4 cause it was the dopest car you could get for like $48,000. And it was like at the time, that was 2014, 2015, cause it was a 2014 car. But that was like...

A Maserati was pretty sweet right around that time.

A Ghibli SQ4, like that's back, I think they were even like, and I may be wrong, but I thought they were like hand built, had like the red Ferrari valve covers. Like it was sick. And the 14s actually had like real suspension. They weren't mass produced, like a 300, you know, yet. And so dude, it got me in with like M&E&S. And I'm like, oh dude, I'm gonna...

Minnesota Exotics and Supercars.

So I'm like, I'm big leagues. Like, this is sweet. I'll go to these events. And like from there, I started seeing the power. And then as soon as I posted on Facebook, my accountant reached out. He's like, what are you doing? I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, what did you buy? I said, you said I could get a car. He's like, yeah, like a few year old in Palo Alto, Malibu or something that for, you said for looking at jobs and like going around to things. I said, yeah, I'm going to different things than that. Like, I'm not trying to just look at jobs. Like I'm trying to go network with people. He's like, there's no way we can write this off. And then instantly I started doing business with people and whether or not the car, but the car was like the thing that got the attention. And then people want to know, what do you do? What's your, they want to know, they want to dig in, you're tatted up. Like, my God, dude, I could do commercial construction and commercial roofing. And we started making money. And I'm like, dude, we're writing this off. Like I don't have a marketing budget. Why wouldn't we? And I'm like, and I'm going to buy a Lamborghini next. And he's like, well, just, no, you're not. I know I'm going to, I promise. Like that's next. That I kind of felt the like, I don't know, I got to that and then yeah, and then bought the Lambo. And then it was like, now we need a following and built and built and built. And then got involved with the giveaways and all that. Being completely obsessed with having a big following on Instagram, whether it was real or not, I didn't care.

I just wanted that look.

I wanted that look.

It's like the verified badge now. It means nothing.

Means nothing. You can get it. Like I worked so hard to try to get verified. And all of a sudden it's like just 15 bucks. I'm like, why couldn't they do that?

You know how many people reached out like, congrats on being verified. I'm like, I just pay 15 bucks, bro.

Dude, it's literally, it's $15. And I worked, I sent that thing, you know, you'd submit, you'd put your license, do the whole thing. I did that so many times. I'd add all my stuff. I'm like, look at, dude, I was in this little magazine thing. I was in this, I was in this.

Yeah.

Declined, denied, denied.

Yep.

And all of a sudden it's like, oh, for $15. And I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. I spent so much time and effort on that.

Little inside baseball, it is really good for conversations because you show up, if you like someone's stuff, you show up at the top.

Yes. Yep.

It's a good conversation starter. It's worth the 15 bucks to me.

It's 100 percent.

It doesn't mean what it used to mean. Right.

Yeah. But then it got to where if you had money, you could get verified whether you were a complete scam or not.

Yeah.

So it was kind of like, I don't know. And now, like when I see stuff, I look at people. I mean, I do look even like you said in messages and stuff. I'm like, oh, that pops. And then you kind of do look and it's like, well, if you've been paying to be verified for as long, what's it been a year now or a year and a half, if you're still paying, like, you obviously care about what people see. You know, a lot of people have dropped off of doing that. So I give people more credit that are a little bit, you know? So, but then it just, then I got the Gallardo and then that's when kind of the Lambo dad. And it was like, we were trying to do different variations of it to make it. Cause I just wanted it Lambo dad. And then that was taken.

Why dad?

Cause I was a dad and I had a Lambo. Yeah, that was it. That was the only thing. Cause I'm like, everything I'd put in that was like Lambo. And I'm like, what? I'm like, yeah, Lambo dad. Like that's, like that's my main job now is, you know, and by that point in my life, I was starting to get the, I was really pushing for like success and what success meant to me and the money and stuff. But I was finding out more and more that like, none of that stuff really matters. If I can't keep my house, my home life together, I can't keep my wife and my kids happy. And so, yeah, and then I had my daughter and then that, so that would have been...

Yeah, dude, it's crazy. Like I've been watching his kids grow up over the last five years. It's so trippy.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's trippy.

Yeah, it's crazy to like scroll back through stuff and like, I see pictures. I'm like, oh, that was just recently. I'm like, oh, I didn't have another human. Like I had my son. We didn't even have my daughter yet. And I'm like, that doesn't feel like that long ago, but then you see her and I'm like, she's seven. Like, just like that.

So when you first got the Lambo, was it a stretch at that point?

So it was because I didn't understand how like the financing worked. Because I'm looking at it and I'm like, okay, well I don't, you know, and then there's so much information out there and there's like an information overload, especially now, but even back then where I'm like, what's the right way to do this? Like, should I be, and everyone's like, you should invest in property and get your money back. I said, yeah, I didn't dream about having property. Like, I dreamed about having a Lambo.

We're in the same boat.

All I wanted to do was be a hood rat in a Lambo and do burnouts. And then when I bought the car, it was all with a drive. I'm like, this is awful, I can't do burnout, I can't do hood rat things. And so that's what we converted it. I mean, I didn't, I drove it less than 800 miles. Then we had it sitting right here in this shop and I had no idea what I was doing. And I could not afford to go, to go and like bring it to a shop. And we bought the little wheel plug things and started watching some videos and reading some stuff. And I'm like, dude, we can convert this thing to rear wheel drive ourselves. And took it all apart. And I think there's still parts laying around here. And then we could do donuts. And then I was like, my life was complete. And we put line locks in it.

Oh, I remember you line locking right here on this road over here. I still got the video.

Really?

When you got the Louis Vuitton wrap on there? Oh yeah.

Oh dude, that was the first thing I ever had go viral. I would swear I was gonna never go on social media again in my whole life. Cause people are mean. That was the first taste I had of like something that went viral. And I think that that original post, it wasn't even me. And I was, I don't even remember how the whole scenario went down, but like in total, it had over like 64 million impressions on. And it was like 90% of them were on like, what are the ones, the hater pages.

Yeah.

Yeah. Wreck My Car, the s******* pages and all that stuff. All that stuff.

And like on Instagram, like I remember finding one, I'm like, yeah, we're spec.

Yeah.

Yeah. That's one of them.

And like went wild on all those. And I'm like, yeah, right.

Look at this thing, dude.

It's got like 3000 comments. I like click in, I'm like, oh. And every single one of them was like, I would drown myself. I would kill my, like. Yeah. And I'm like, dude, these people are so mean. And it like, it messed with me big time for quite a while. Cause I was like, dude, I don't even want to go anywhere. Cause why are all these people, why are people like this? Like, what's wrong with these people?

Yeah.

You're literally driving like a, you're modifying a 2000 Honda Accord. And you're talking trash about how I modified my Lamborghini that I've worked my balls off for.

Yeah.

I'm just, I'm doing the same thing you're doing, but just a different car and a different...

I saw a little fun comment today that's just sticking with me. It's the eighth mile versus quarter mile one that I posted just the other day. And they're like, oh man, all that. And you just got an automatic. I go into the profile. All right. So he's got an Evo 10 that he auto crosses.

Cool.

That car that is in the video is 10 times that. It's like, come on, dude. People just love to be s*** talkers.

Yeah. You got to, I don't even go in the comments. I've read a few and I sit there and I want to reply and be like, you don't know what you f****** talk about. And they're like, explain it. And then I just stop myself or I'll delete it and be like, okay.

Well, Dan has social media. When I need to get him out, he doesn't even have a phone actually. I just sent a carrier pigeon podcast today.

I basically plasti dipped $100,000 Mustang. And I don't, I did not go. I don't even go into the f****** comments on that one. Cause I know people hate it. Even though it's-

It's not good, Dan. It's not good.

Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not a fan of plasti dip.

It's, but I do my spiel.

Not because of that.

No, no. It's not the rattle can bull. It's, it's auto flex. It's a spray on wrap.

But it's not plasti dip brand.

Correct. Okay. It's auto flex.

Do you remember that? Oh, I got a cease and desist for that video I did. I had a video go viral on TikTok.

Yeah.

And it was like the right way to use plasti dip. And I like take, and I've got my table sitting out here and I like set it down and I like tape. I use blue painters tape all over. And it's like the videos that go viral on TikTok. You're doing a project. And then I set the can of plasti dip down and then it's like, boom, the smart car hits the thing. And then in one of them, I did it. I was like the correct way. And I did the same thing. And then I threw it into the trash can. And yeah, I got a cease and desist for that.

Really?

Yeah, it was pretty incredible.

Yeah, dude, some people and companies are fragile. And I could tell you another story off camera regarding another buddy of mine that got a cease and desist. And it's a whole, it's just dumb, man.

Yeah.

Okay.

But it means you've got attention.

Like, yeah.

And that's what I was going for, so.

Okay. So before we continue on down to Lambo story, one of my favorite stories that you told me years ago was you getting to Maserati. You kind of had issues trying to get it at first, didn't you?

So the Maserati, when I bought that, so I had to trade in a vehicle for it. And at the time I traded in, what did I do? I don't even remember exactly how that whole deal went down. The Lambo, I had more of an issue. Like, because even where I went to go get financing, they were like, we don't, like, it's not even in our database. Like, I don't know what a Lember, you know, and I've got some, you know, 60 year old woman trying to read what is on this, this that I'm applying for. And then they're seeing the price. Then they're seeing that it's at 2003. And they're going, well, for $105,000. Like, absolutely not. And I'm like, no, you don't understand. Because I'm just at my normal credit union. And then I'm looking, and at this point, I had saved up enough money where I could, I could have drained all my accounts. And I could have bought it. And then I was starting to feel like kind of a tough guy where I'm like, I'll just buy it outright. Knowing that I literally couldn't eat tomorrow if I just bought it outright. You know what I mean? So it was like, you would ask, was it a stretch in like financing it? No, I knew I could make the payments. But so I ended up financing just part of it. And they did part of it as a note, and then part of it as I just put a good chunk down. But it was like trying to get the car, trying to get financing to push through was a pain. And even more of a pain was when I bought my 610 or my 580. My Huracan. So, and then that was my first like, dive into like more big boy. I mean, that was $189,000 car. But when I sold my Gallardo, I had taken and I was down to like, I didn't owe much on it. So I was able to put that money towards it. So I never got super upside down. But even that, like, I was dead set on having it, and I had more money to put down on it, but I went through Woodside. And that was, maybe they do things different now, but that was a very bad, bad experience.

Well, the reason I asked is because, so now, some people were like, that's your goal, right? I want a Lambo. So you get up to $100, $150, whatever you get your first one. But now cost of ownership is a whole other ball game, right? So you think maybe I can make the payments or whatever, but now maintenance is way more expensive. I'm sure insurance was outright just crazy.

Well, he's got a line lock, he's doing burnouts everywhere. I'm sure his record was great.

Yeah.

And the tires were like, that's actually like a thing because we went through, I don't know, I put eight sets of rear tires on that thing in a season. Because it was incredible.

What were you running? PS4s or?

At first, I was running P0s, which were the worst tire on planet Earth for that car. I think for any car, I don't know. But then I went to the Sport Cup Force or whatever. And went to those and I'm like, oh, these are sick. And then we burned a pair of those off. And then I'm like, oh, those aren't sick. That's so much money. Like it kind of changed my, I had to really make sure it was like, there's cameras going or something. So it was worth it. But yeah, the cost of ownership on that, because I got into it in the car, like I bought it and it was a very clean car. And I got it through AJ. He helped me find it and it was exactly, like it was exactly what I wanted. It was crazy. Cause I looked through my phone when I had bought it and I'd never drove it. I went on a test drive with him. First time I drove it, I'd bought it from, I'd bought it already. And I got home and I was looking through pictures. So I'm like, God, there was a white one I used to love that I had pictures of. It was the exact same car that I had pictures of from a car meet that I was at.

The exact same car.

The exact same car. And I'm like, no way. I'm like, show my wife. I'm like, babe, this is... She's like, yeah, you did it. Like, you know, it was a big deal. She respected. She was obviously like, what are you doing? Like, why are we doing this? You know? And I'm like, no, dude, it's...

You need somebody to keep you in check. You have to ask the questions. Like, are you sure?

Yeah. Yeah. And even if you're not going to listen, at least she can be there and then be like, when it doesn't work out, you know, I told you, rub it in. But yeah, and then, you know, we had, we started driving the car hard, well, the car hadn't been driven hard. The car was taken very well care of. And so instantly we, you know, we blew the front end out of it. Steering racks are notorious because they sit, if they just sit there, they get a little bit of corrosion. And then when you start, you know, wrenching on them, they, the gaskets in there, the O-rings that slide on your tire or on your steering rod, those things have little tiny pit marks where they sit in storage, where they kind of make little pits. And then you can, then you can just, you just blow the O-rings out of them.

And that's just a result of letting it sit too long.

Yeah, just sitting and not driving them all the time.

Same thing with like shock absorbers and stuff, that rod, if it gets pitted.

Yeah, like the little damper sits there and it gets pitted and then it blows fluid past it.

Typical McLaren things.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that happened, clutch went out, all of a sudden it was like boom, boom, boom and I had like a $25,000 bill and I'm like, oh, so this is what they talk about, cost of ownership, because I was looking at it like, well, I can change the oil myself, it's not a big deal. I can do a handful of stuff, I can cross-reference the brake pads and get brake pad, like, dude, this ain't no thing. I can do this, I can be a hood rat still and I can work on my own Lambo and I can save money.

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And then when that stuff happened, like, oh, no, I can't. And that's when I got linked up with B-Rogue. And then all of a sudden it was like, oh, you're shipping a car to Chicago. Well, hey, that's $1,600. And all of a sudden I got into like the big leagues of the exotic car world that everyone told me to think about.

Yeah.

And I didn't, cause I was, I was able to put my blinders on and go right past all that.

Yeah. Well, to be fair, you probably could have to some degree not had those high costs of ownership, but the way you drive.

Yes.

That's, that's also a contributing factor. I'm sure.

It's all I want to do. Yeah.

Why have it if you're not going to drive it?

Yeah. And all I want to do is like when kids are like, burn out, I just want to do, yes.

We just talked about this with Adam on my last podcast. He's like, man, you don't see the cost of anti-lag, but it adds up.

Oh, dude.

Because you're just, you know, oh yeah, dude, just anti-lag. It's the coolest thing in the world.

Yeah. You have to, like Masters, you follow Masters, 824.

Oh, yeah, I think so.

You need to-

What's he have again?

That Continental, I think he's like 600K into it.

Okay.

It's like the sickest build I've ever seen in my whole life. And he drives that fresh out of the shop, the clean, like every single thing is pristine on like $20,000 wheels and tires set up. It sits this high off the ground and it's like 1400 horse or something. And he's doing donuts in the parking lot.

Yeah.

Fresh paint. Like, and I'm like, this dude is like my absolute hero. Look at what he's doing. And at first, like, I mean, there's a bunch of people that hate, why would you do that? That build is gaudy. That I'm like, that is the sickest build I've ever seen. And then to see what he does and dude, every single video I see, and the thing's shooting flames and he's driving it in the snow. It's got no hood. It's got turbo sticking out of the, and dude, he just full sends it.

You know who's another hero of mine? Lumber 21.

Lumber, oh my goodness.

That dude is peak car guy. He literally buys like Lambos, Porsches, throws PPF on him. And he has like, what, a lumber yard or something? And I mean, I'll froze the s*** out of everything. I think he has a Ford GT too, doesn't he?

Yeah, I've never seen his car. I've never seen one of his cars that's like pristine clean. It's like, and they're not even like, it's not like, oh, it's dusty. It's like, oh, there's mud all over it. Yeah, so I think he got a Strato. Yeah.

And that car is designed for it.

Yeah, it's ready for it.

All you have to do is lift it and throw plastic flares on it. It's off road.

It's perfect. So yeah, I love that. I love seeing, and that was my thing is like, man, I'm like, I really shouldn't have the car. And like looking back, everyone's like, do you regret? Do you wish you would have bought land and like a rental or something? I'm like, absolutely not. I had a rental. It was terrible. It was the worst thing I ever did in my whole life. Like I had to be a landlord for some people that didn't want to pay me money. And like, and then I had to redo the whole place. I said, no, this was, that was the best investment I've ever made. Cause like the friends I made, the relationships I built, and you know, now looking at it, like now I'm on my third Lambo. And I'm like, yeah, if I didn't have a Lambo for a couple of years and worked on, now if I worked on some of those other things, the investments, I'd be fine with that. That's what I say right now, cause my car's in the shop. If my car was sitting here, I'd be like, absolutely not, it's not going anywhere. But it's, you know, my perspective has all changed on it. But going back, like I wouldn't change a thing. Like it was, I've had so much fun. I've had so much fun owning one. I've had so much fun with the people, the conversations, like just everything that's associated with, you know, rolling into a gas station with like, you know, a fully camoed out Lambo. It's like the things I dreamed of when I was a kid.

Of your three Lambos you had, what's the coolest thing you've done you think?

What do you mean? Like the coolest thing.

What's your favorite memory with your Lambos?

Dude, honestly, probably that picture right over there, where I let all the kids at the children's hospitals and stuff sign my car.

Crown rally?

Yeah, yep. On Crown. I would say that was my most memorable that gives me like the chills. And it was also for me, it was like so special because like the car was like something that I just had dreamed of and like really, like I knew in my head that I'd get there somehow, I just had no idea how I would get to it. And so then to get to it and then to be able to go around these kids, because like just like five years before I was these kids, these kids that are coming up, like that was me. Like I was going and I'm still like that. Like I still see cars. I can see cars that are, I mean, like I see a Gallardo anywhere.

Dude, this is sick.

Like I'm that guy still, even, I mean, Civics. I go to car stuff and I remember I'd go to car stuff with my Gallardo and I'd go to like the Civic meets. Like, why are you even here, dude? Dude, I like cars.

You're a Honda guy at heart, aren't you?

Yeah, I was like, this is where I, this is my jam. That's why I bought that blue hatch.

That's right. The one that scared the s*** out of you, right?

Dude, so I have the title for that car again in my office. So that car is coming back here.

You just can't, he can't sell anything. You can't keep something sold.

Dude, like this stupid thing. When you hit me up and you're like, yeah, dude, do this. I'm like, okay, cool.

You told me you didn't have a car. I was like, doesn't he have a Rolls still?

And I'm like, I don't have a car here. I have four vehicles that are in shops being worked on. I have nothing. And then I'm like, oh, dude. So this thing got its first bath today in about five years. This first time I've ever watched it. Myself.

Has it been five years this thing's been in your life?

I sold it at one point and it was gone for like a year. It was able to make its way onto a family's Christmas cards.

Okay.

This thing was loved. Loved and adored. Drove his kids to school every day in it. It was his daily for like over a year.

Really? And then he sold it back to you?

And then he traded it back to Alec. Okay. Alec's auto. And then Alec hit me up. He's like, it's back.

I'm like, yeah, right.

I need it. And then I got it and now I'm...

I just recently coming back from PRI wrecked my wife's excursion on some black ice coming back.

Oh no.

Yeah. And so I was looking for another vehicle. I ended up getting her that Navigator out there, but he kept sending me this. I think he sent it to me two or three times. And I'm like, dude, no, not going to happen. No offense.

Look how nice it looks. Literally today, like I clean this whole place up and like, this was like a four minute wash. If you go to the other side of this car, it is as like, you can't even see the paint. It's so dirty because I literally just washed this one side. Yeah.

You need it, dude. Good deal. No, I got the Navigator. Now I'm fine.

Have you heard it?

No, I haven't.

Oh, do you want to start it up real quick? Start it up.

Dude.

Sure.

It might smoke us out. We'll have to just keep.

If it smokes us out.

I don't think you're ready for this.

Sounds like a f****** tractor.

So I was putting it on the trailer when I bought it back from Alec.

Okay.

I brought my trailer down, because I'm like, I don't know if this thing's gonna... Like, people have asked me so many times, like, will you take us to Promenade? I'm like, first of all, I'm not a chauffeur, I'm not driving you around. And so you can, you know.

You don't want that responsibility either.

No, and I'm like, and I don't know, like there's a chance that it doesn't make it to the end of my driveway. There's a chance it could make it to Utah. I have no idea. And like, part of me, part of me, if I trusted the front suspension and the stuff that holds it together better, it would be fun to do like a series of like, how far can we make it with this car? And then, I don't know what you, I don't know if you just leave it somewhere. I don't know. Like it'd be kind of a fun, you know, like some of the guys, I think, was it, was it DiMiro that used to do those where they'd buy the cheapest cars and they'd have to go get them, like do the longest road trips they could. Not maybe DiMiro.

There's a bunch of guys that had done stuff like that.

But similar to that. And I'm like, dude, can you imagine just getting like four buddies and just plan like, Hey dude, we're all going to be throwing down on like a $300 plane ride or a $30 Greyhound if we only make it a little ways. But like, it'd be kind of fun, you know, do a road trip with it and just see what it would do.

Maybe I just buy it.

Roadkill did like power tour or something where like you go, it's like you cruise along, you stop in each city. And they did where they had bought a beater. And then they drove to the next town and then they had, they got on, they like traded it up to another one. They just kept doing that every time they stopped.

That's sweet.

Yeah.

Like that'd be a, I miss that like, because back in the day that was like the, the Craigslist grind was like, I lived on there and I was always on there and I was always like trying to do the next flip, the next, I did enclosed trailers for years. I flipped enclosed trailers and I'd buy them. I'd stripped down all the old plywood and I'd put new plywood in, I'd rewire them and I'd paint everything and I could take it to, back in the day, they were cheap. You'd buy a 16 foot.

Yeah, that's another pre-COVID thing. After COVID trailers are crazy.

And so I did it for years and I would get them for like two grand. I'd clean them all up and I'd, you know, I'd put, if they needed wheels, like I'd make them really nice. And then you'd get 4500 bucks.

Interesting. Okay.

Next up, next up. But it got to where I had like two or three trailers and I owned them. Like I didn't owe any money to anywhere. And then, so when one would sell and I got into like, I mean, 32 foot, like sick trailers. Yeah. And then I got to where we'd insulate the ceiling and we'd put nice paneling in and LED lights. When that was, that was like a big deal, you know, when you opened up, it was light, like bright in there, put shelving in them. And it was sweet. It was just a little, a little hustle. And I want to do it again now. I didn't hate marketplace.

Power wheels ride on toys. I was going to auctions and buying like Walmart returns on my truck load fulls. I had plastic carcasses all over my yard for a long time. But I get them for, you know, I can put them off Craigslist or Facebook for 50 bucks. And then you can flip them for two, 300. Yeah, fix them all up with brand new batteries on them.

Yeah, I didn't ever that did, I had to have done something similar either that he was stealing. I have no idea. But he had like a hundred of them and they were always outside. But they were always cycling through and moving and working on them. And I was always like, interesting. Yeah, he was up to, he had some sketchy things going on. But it's cool. I respect the hustle for sure.

Tell, okay, so how did Rolls Royce come into existence then?

Oh man, this is where, so when I got on to YouTube, that was like my big thing is I want to do videos with creators that I followed and watched. And I was like a creature. Like I, like we were just talking before about, like I don't really watch a ton of YouTube anymore, but I used to watch so much YouTube because that's how I stayed in the know. And as I started on YouTube, I'm like, I need to find, how do I, how do I get in with these people? And Stradman was one of them. Obviously, Daily Driven Exotics, at that time JR Garage. I'm like, dude, I love, love the grind. These guys seem like pretty legit dudes. And I went out. And so with Strad, this limo, this was the white Rolls Royce limo they had. And it was everywhere. They did a bunch of videos and everyone told them like, wrap it purple, wrap it purple. You got to wrap purple to match. And then they were talking about selling it. So I reached out to him, no response, no response. And then I reached out to Burlacher. I'm like, he'll be a little bit easier to get ahold of. No response. And then I got it. When one of the videos, they put an email and he's like, hey, email me at this, something like that. I emailed him and he's like, dude, we've got so many people. We've been catfished 20 times on this thing. Like honestly, we're probably not even going to sell it. Like we're just going to, it's just going to go away. And I'm like, no, but I want it like legit. And I told him, I was like, here's the deal. I said, I will buy it from you. I'll send you a thousand bucks right now. And my thoughts were, what's the cheapest barrier to entry to get on to Stradman video or do a video with Strad? And at the time, I think it was like, I don't know, it was a ton of money to pay him to, and then if you pay somebody to be in a video, like what, what is that going to do for me? If it's, it's just going to be awkward. And I'm like, I know that if I get around this dude, like I know, well, if he's actually what he seems like online, I feel like we'll be, we'll be tight. Like we'll be buddies. And we had already had some conversation with Lambos cause I had a pre LP and he had a pre LP. And so there was that whole thing, but then I just couldn't, I couldn't get back through to him about this. So got ahold of Burlacker and I was like, dude, here's my, here's my vision. I said, I'm going to put on there, if this comment gets a thousand likes, and then if it does, I said, I think it will. And he's like, dude, you do whatever you want. And so I sent him a thousand bucks through Venmo or something to hold it. And then I put that up, well then, Strad actually went and tagged or pinned my comment.

Okay.

So all of a sudden it's like, and I'm like, oh, we're like, we're buying, buying this. Like at the time it was kind of like, dude, if I, if I lost a thousand bucks to have the conversation with them, I'm cool with that.

Just kind of get into their bubble.

Kind of get on their radar.

Get on their radar. Yeah. Totally was worth losing a thousand bucks for that.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And, and at the chance of kind of, and dude, it blew up. And then LifeApollos picked it up.

Yeah. Yep.

And then everyone's like, dude's not going to do it. Everyone says they'll do it, blah, blah, blah. And then LifeApollos is like, do you guys think? I don't remember how he worded it, but he's like Lambo fam coming into the scene with claiming that he's going to buy it if it gets a thousand likes and it's at like a whole ton of likes, way over a thousand and so I'm like, Eddie, we're going to buy it. So then I reached out to Clayton, which is the rap guy. Yeah. And I was like, dude, I want to rap at Purple because I want to get there and I don't want it to just be a transaction. I want to rap this. What are you talking about? Like I'm like, dude, I bought, I'm buying the limo. I said, I'll coordinate it with Burlacker. I'll get it up there, but I want a video. I want Strad to want this vehicle next to his Bugatti. That was my only vision. I was like, whatever it takes to get a picture of me with Stradman and this car and the Bugatti. And everyone's kind of like, okay, dude, whatever. And so, dude, I worked it out with Burlacker and Burlacker took, made the drive. I didn't realize it was like an hour drive. It's like through the mountain pass. He drove this pile and got a ride. And he's like, how good of a job do you want? And I said, dude, 50 feet. Like I want the cheapest, I want like a 50 foot wrap. I just want it as far, like I just want it to look decent from, I do need it. This is still the original. It looks pretty good still. It looks really good. And we've jumped it and we've drifted it and we've drove it over everything. And like, it looks really good. You did a really good job.

Yeah, don't sit as close as I am, obviously.

Yeah, but you know, it's not bad. And you know, I got a bath today. So she's, she might have to stay in the garage.

Yeah.

So, and then dude, it ended up going, so I hooked, I told Bud, I'm like, dude, here's the deal. I said, how long can you leave for? He's like, what do you mean? Like how many days? Like, he's like, I don't know. What do you got? And I said, I'm gonna, we're gonna go down and we're gonna buy a limo from James, from Stradman. He's like, what? He's like, I can go for as long as you want. Like for real? He's like, at least a month. I'm like, all right, let's roll. I told my wife and she's like, you're absolutely insane. I said, no, I'm telling you, this is gonna be sweet. And so we loaded up, loaded up my Denali, brought all sorts of stuff, loaded up the trailer, brought a trailer, we got into the worst weather I've ever driven in.

Oh yeah.

The semis were great. We almost got crashed in.

Didn't you just post some videos from that too?

Yeah, and then other people reposted them and they went stupid viral.

Yeah, I remember those.

Yeah, millions and millions of views because Bud caught on camera a guy flying past us. And we had to get into the left lane out in Wyoming because they were shutting the interstate down. And it was like 40 mile an hour crosswinds and it was glare ice. And the only spot on the whole road that had any actual visible road was on the left side. Well, when I was in the right lane, it was blowing that 32 foot trailer into that lane. Yep. And then there's semis crashing all over. So you had to keep going. And I'm like, so we're over in the left lane and we're coming up on a semi and this guy comes blasting between us and dude, all of a sudden he loops it. And we're looking at him and he's like, oh my God. And he's looking straight at us and he's sliding out, crashing. And I'm like, you're right. We got it. So we keep going. And like five minutes later, whoa, he comes by again after just going in the ditch, bumpers flying off. Like it was insane. And then, yeah, like six months later, all of a sudden he had a dash cam on. So there's his side. And then someone took it on the internet and found my video. And they're like, yeah, right. Cause in his, you can see, and he's like, well, look at this j****** driving in the left lane. And then he comes past, you can see Lambo Fam. Cause we have the trailer out. So people put it all together. And then it made it on to like, dude, the dash cam thing. It made it onto some TV show about bad drivers. And everybody like, I looked through the comments on that. And everyone's like, dude, this guy's an idiot driving way out of his, way out of safe zone for the road conditions. The other guy. And so yeah, it was wild, dude. So we went out there. So we would go out there. And I had no idea what was going to happen. And so I was connected with Burlackers. We stayed at a hotel, takes us like three days to get out there. Staying at a hotel right in Utah or right in Salt Lake. And then Burlackers said, yep, I'm going to come meet up with you guys. And I wanted to be like, is Strad coming? Or like, what's going on? But I didn't want to, I don't know.

Be a fan boy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so it was like this weird thing. And all of a sudden they, I think he had just gotten that big blue Raptor, big blue TRX or whatever. I think it would have been the Raptor. And comes around the corner, he hops out and I'm like, yeah, right. He's like, what's up dude? And we hadn't, nobody had seen it yet. He hadn't seen it. I hadn't seen it and it was up at Clayton's shop. So we all rolled up there and that was the first time. And I don't know if he knew it was getting wrapped purple or not, but from how he acted, like I actually think they kept it kind of on the down low.

I'm sure those guys know how to keep it up for content too, right? Yeah.

And then Strad's like, so then we did the whole thing. We did the transaction and then Burlacher took and chauffeured us in the back seat, took us. We went to Texas Roadhouse. There was like, Stefan Lewis was like the whole gang, the whole Utah crew.

Yeah.

It was sick. Like it was so much fun and they were so genuine. They were such good people. And then he's like, Hey dude, he's like, you guys can be around tomorrow. I said, I'll be around for 30 days if you need it. He's like, come over, let's do, let's get some content. I want to get this next to the Bugatti. Yes. Yes. Yes. And then we went and kicked it with them, did videos, he revved the Bugatti, took the Bugatti out, got a bunch of videos, drone stuff and then made it on his channel. And so it was super cool. I gained like 10,000 subscribers in the course of like 12 hours. And they were authentic, like they were real. So that was like wild. Bud and I are sitting in the hotel room, like, dude, look at this. He's like, get school crazy. He's on his phone, we're refreshing. We're like little kids, you know? But I remember it being like the most wholesome, like authentically cool. I'm like, dude, I like built this whole idea. And then we paid with $1 bills.

Oh, I remember that. Yeah.

Yes. That was a disaster. We were staying in hotels.

Cause what did you get it for again?

Like 14,000 or something.

I think that's what it was.

And you had it wrapped and you hadn't fully paid for it yet?

Yeah. Okay. So I put a thousand bucks down and then I had sent Clayton like 1700 bucks on Venmo. So I was like 2700 into it and then the trip. And then, yeah. Yeah. And so then when I came to pay and I told him, I said, here's the deal, dude, for content purpose, I'd like to pay in $1 bills. He's like, all $1 bills? I'm like, yes. He's like, sure, whatever. And then it made great content. You know, and I ordered a Rolls Royce. I got it. It's hanging in here somewhere. I got, I bought a Rolls Royce duffel bag.

Okay.

And like $14,000 and $1 bills is like, I like to carry that around when you're going into hotels with like camera gear and, and I've got really like strip clubs and I'm like carrying this Rolls Royce duffel, like as sketchy looking as you can imagine.

Just screaming Rob me.

Yes. And we're staying in like, you know, budget hotels.

Of course. Yeah.

It was, dude, it was a good time. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. It was fun filming the content that everything that went wrong, like with the drive, you know, could have gone wrong. It went wrong, but yeah, we got it. Did a bunch of content with it, put wheels on it. I mean, like everything we did was like a huge project because nobody made wheels. So they're actually Toyota Tundra blanks that we bought and we had them custom drilled.

Really?

And then one of them got dropped in when they were shipping them. And they're like, sorry, there's nothing we can do. And I'm like, so I'm working with John at Tire Pros and he's like, let me call. And all of a sudden he's on the phone and he's talking. And he's like, I got it figured out. I got a lady, she's a Hispanic lady. She owns a machine shop somewhere by there. She's going to go pick up the one wheel. We're going to get a blank. We're going to do this. And dude, it took less than seven days to have those from an idea from, they came from LA. They went all over the place, had to be custom drilled all the way to Tire Pros. They put tires on and they fit everything worked. And I'm like, dude, that is insane. Cause everyone's like, there's no, you can't, there's nothing you can do. I was on all the forums. I got kicked out of all the forums cause I'm like, dude, Rolls Royce Owners Club. Like that's a real, that's like a real Facebook page.

And I love how it's drilled into there, by the way.

Yeah. And then in here, some rusty screws.

Like dude, look at this. This is the coolest thing. Look at that. There's like an actual silver plate. Look right down here.

Oh, that's sick.

Yeah. Probably worth more than like the whole car is that silver plate. But that's like from, cause it's a factory built.

Yeah. You can run over your phone over there.

Oh, we're good.

What year is it?

1982.

Oh, perfect.

Yeah, come on.

That's a good year.

Yeah.

That's the year I was born.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it was just loving to update your Wikipedia today.

Yeah, I guess.

I have it dialed in. And I think we looked it up. We tried to, so we had some people that got pretty deep into like figuring out stuff about the car. And we found, I want to say it was 208,000 was the original price.

Holy s***. In 1982? Yeah.

And so if you do the math, that's like 700k now.

Yeah.

And the only people that had it. So this is one of two in 1982 of the Silver Spur II factory built Rolls Royce Limos that was ever made in the factory. I think two of them. So very rare. So when I got into the Rolls Royce Owners Club, started showing the hood ratness we were doing with it. We got kicked out of it right away.

Yeah.

We got like hate. And I'm like, well, you can buy it if you'd like, if it was worth so much to keep it in pristine condition, why don't you buy it? And you probably should do it soon because we're about to put train horns in it. And you're like, you better do it quick, you know? And yeah, and nobody bought it. So here it is.

So pristine. It's like when Whistling Diesel did that crazy plane video, however many years ago, and then all the plane guys came after him.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Dude, that is insane. I remember the first couple of videos I saw of his, and I'm like, this clown. And then I'm like, oh, I can't, I can't not watch when he uploads. And now I'm like, it just boggles my mind.

Yeah. The, the, it's come so far.

What he's taken it to.

Yeah. Talk about a guy who doesn't read the comments and doesn't give a s***.

No, he responds to my mom.

I know he does. I know he does. But I guess more of a, I don't give a s*** attitude.

I love how, I don't know if you saw the story the other day. He's like, can you please start unsubscribing? I really don't want to do a durability test on the Bugatti.

Yeah, 10 million, right? 10 million, yeah.

He's close. He's at 9 million something.

Yeah.

He'll be there any day.

That's insane.

Yeah.

Because when he first started saying that, he was at like, Four or five million. I thought it was lower. I thought it was like almost 2 million.

It might have been.

Yeah, I thought it was something like that.

And I'm like, yeah, dude, to get to like, 10 is a pretty absurd number.

Yeah.

I feel like a lot of people can get, and this is crazy coming from somebody as small as me. A lot of people can do that one, two, three, four million. 10 is kind of like, that's like a rare air.

Well, what's Mr. Beast at?

Oh, he's a bigs against.

But that's like an anomaly of like, that's a, I still can't, I love watching stuff about him and with him in interviews and stuff, cause he's, he kind of blows my mind. Oh, Mr. Beast.

Oh, gotcha.

Cause it's wild.

He's younger than me, dude.

Yeah, it's insane. Crazy. But like with Whistlin Diesel, he's literally built it from just doing the things he wanted to do. He just like wrecking stuff. And I look back and we had talked about this a lot. Like, dude, if I had a camera when we were younger, well, we'd be in prison, we'd probably be dead because we would have gone even bigger on stuff. But like we jumped people in the road with our minivan. And like, imagine if you had a video camera then, like you'd be, we'd be sitting in prison for sure. But like we did so many things like what he went and made a ton of money doing, you know, and that's crazy. It'll be interesting to see what, how he goes about the-

The Pagode, you think?

Yeah.

We're gonna have to stretch that over the course of 40 episodes.

Have to.

Have to.

I mean, with the viewer, I mean, with what he, I don't know, though. I can't, I'd like-

I did the math on what he makes and I'm like, oh.

Because people watch, like, you don't really, it's not one that you like, oh, fast forward through, you watch the whole thing, you know? Like, the watch time has got to be absurd.

Those are videos where you just go all the way through. And I could talk about YouTube analytics all day long. Like, I introduced my dad to Cletus today.

Yeah.

I'm like, yeah, that guy is like really big. He's like, really? Yeah. So. So, okay. Anyways, down that whole rabbit hole, so the Rolls Royce thing. So, you also got, what is it, the highest mileage Huracan in the country?

As far as we know, I mean, I'm sure that someone...

At the time, at least.

Yeah. Yeah. It's up there. Yeah. And we, we stacked miles on the Gallardo. We ran that to 50K, like within two seasons, I think.

Okay.

In between being in the shop for clutches and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And then their Huracan, so I had bought, I bought the 580. And that was like low mileage, high spec, like that was a, that was a sick car. We went and rallied that. We did West with that. We did the Salt Flats. We completely destroyed that car. Not destroyed it, but like it needed a windshield. You beat it. Yeah. It needed front coolers. It needed all new clear bra. It needed tires. The wing broke off. Like we, we put some hard miles on it. And then the market took off. And in the process of the market taking off, there was this one Huracan that I had followed. I actually did a video in, on Rodeo Drive with Daily Driven Exotics. And I went and drove with Dave in that green wide body Supra they did. Jumped in with him and we rolled up and there was a group of cars on, on Rodeo Drive. And there was a multicolored, like wrapped down the middle Huracan. And I'm like, oh, I need that. I like that. Like stepping is sick. And it had whoever the good carbon fiber, not the Chinese carbon fiber, but the, who's the not 1016, 1016. Yeah. But it had a 1016 wing.

Okay.

And I had never seen like, you know, all the stuff I always had was we got it from wherever it comes from. It takes six weeks to get, you know, that and 1016.

I don't know if you ever saw all those, like when they got called out, did you?

I saw some of that.

Yeah.

But there, that wing that was on that car was like, Legit. I was like, dang, dude, that's nice.

Looks sweet, yeah.

Yeah. A lot nicer than the fake one I have. But so I'd seen that, I'm like, dude, I want this car and I'd kind of, so I subscribed to the dude's YouTube and then I followed some stuff and I stayed on Instagram, I stayed in connection and then the car went and it was sold, but then it wasn't really sold. Then there were some issues with it and all of a sudden it was like, I think it popped up, one of the guys was on VinWiki because the Detroit PD impounded that Huracan for street racing and then they had made a video and they had put their own stickers on it and they're like, we own this now, we own both of these and they had taken the guy's Gallardo too. Well, then it wasn't even his car, he was in a lease, dude it was insane. And so this whole thing goes down and all the while, I'm messaging him like, dude, what's up with that car? He's like, yeah dude, my buddy bought it. I'm like, yeah, but they're saying that it's not in his name. And then he reaches out and he's like, hey dude, I need money. Do you want to buy this Huracan? Like I thought you said it wasn't yours. He's like, no, I have the title. It's a bad deal. Everything that happened, the car's got a bunch of issues. Do you want it? I'm like, yeah. I do. I'm like, what kind of issues? He's like, well, it's like 90,000 miles. It's got a little bit of an oil leak. The power steering, we have all the parts to fix it. It's just a little computer thing. You plug it in when you get here. Well then, I'm like, why don't you plug it in before I get there? You know? And so it's out in Atlanta. So I go, I hit up Bud.

Bud, how much time you got?

How much time you got? I do it up to a month. I'm like, all right, we're going to go buy a Huracan. So I make a deal with this guy. And the deal was, we made a deal on the price. And then I'm like, I'm going to get it back to my shop, and I'm going to, we're going to go through it completely. And then we'll adjust if there's anything. I said, but, you know, with the issues you're saying, it has, if it's worse, whatever, and I'm going to give you X amount of cash. So here we go and we fly and we travel with a bunch of cash again.

Interesting.

Yep. And then I tell them like, as long as I see the title, I'll let you hold the title. I'm taking the car, we'll do a full bill of sale. I want a copy of it. Like we made it. So it's still super sketchy. And then someday I got to share the whole story because like you absolutely don't like it ended up being the sketchiest transaction of my entire life. And at one point, I was sure that Bud and I were getting probably turned into lampshades somewhere in someone's house. Yeah, it was weird. The whole thing was weird. Anyway, we end up getting the car, it took us hours of like driving around. It was supposedly over here, but then it wasn't. But then the guy's shop it was at, it was actually outside, but he didn't have the key. And it was up in the mountains. Very bizarre, ended up being there. And then I'm like, okay, well, we got to make this deal. Then he didn't have the key, so we waited. And then he's like gone, he's in the back of the house, and he comes out and he's got the key. I'm like, I'm not asking questions.

You would have been the brightest lampshade ever.

Dude.

And so here I'm like, I started filming this whole thing.

Yeah.

And then it got to where I'm like, I can't even really fit. Like this is too, like I was actually very uncomfortable with the whole situation.

So you guys didn't carry or anything either, did you?

What's that?

No, we flew.

And like we flew in and I didn't think anything of it.

You thought it was going to be an easier deal. Yeah.

Yeah. And so we finally get the keys to the car. Okay. He's like, follow me. Well, I knew when we got out of the dude's truck, I could see the gas gauge and it was like on E on E because I was worried we weren't going to make it to wherever we were going. And then he's like, follow me. Let's go down to, we need to go get a pen and paper to draft up the rest of this and sign this. Okay. And he takes off and dude, I cannot keep up. I'm in a Lambo and he's in like a pickup, little pickup truck. Yeah. I can't keep up with him, dude. We're buzzing through and we're going and we're passing like stores that would have a pen and paper. And I'm like, do we keep following? What are we supposed to do here? Mind you, I have the car. I have the cash. I have the little handwritten bill of sale that's not signed yet, but like, I don't have the title, but I'm sitting pretty good. I have my money in the car. And by this time we're figuring out that like, it has no power steering. And so it doesn't even have, cause it's got like the electric steering in there. So it's not like once you get driving, it's smooth. It is like, dude, when you're like, even to turn one lane, I mean, you're, and then one of the seats, so the side of the seat, there's two motors.

Yep.

One of the motors is stuck and it's stuck, it's the left side and it's stuck all the way back. Well, I'm pretty tall, but I'm not at all. So the front is like all the way forward and then the left side, so the seat itself is twisted.

Oh, okay.

So I'm like trying to drive and I'm trying to turn and my shoulder is like a foot from the seat on the left side, but dude, please tell me Bud was filming this. Oh, dude, so we have a lot of filming of this part. Okay. And then he pulls into a Walmart and we go in and I go, I have to go buy a pen and literally go do this deal and I'm counting out hundreds, like stacks of hundreds on a table at Subway inside.

How much cash is the cash deal?

So I want to say I don't 10 or 20,000. So it wasn't like 100,000 or nothing.

Yeah, it's still more than you should count out on a subway table in a Walmart.

Yeah, it sounds like the Scully story.

Yes. Some mountain like right outside of Atlanta, where we were. Okay. So we do that and we sign and I'm like, all right, dude, well now we've got to go and we've got to drive from Atlanta home here. And we've got this car that's like, I go to hit the wipers and it's like, I'm like, oh my gosh. So we go and we make a stop to go to O'Reilly's and we start looking like we're like, all right, what can we fix on it now? I brought stickers with had to get Lambo dad stickers on it right after the drive home. So we slap stickers all over it. And we're trying to like fix things. And it's like everything we touched all sudden, like something else is broken. Check engine light came on the service. Every light was coming on on the dash. And there'd be times where, so like we had no cruise control, no nothing. Because also the ABS light would come on. And then it would be like speed limited. And like, dude, it was insane. There'd be like 14 dash lights on this thing. And I'm like, well, we're just sending it. You know, right now we're 10 or 20 grand into this thing or whatever. We'll be fine. And I kind of made a deal like, we'll get it home. We'll check everything over. Give me like 30 to 60 days and I'll pay you in full. We agree on. And he was cool with it because he had paid, the car was paid off.

Okay.

He had had it paid off. I got to see the title. I got to copy the title and stuff. And dude, we drove that thing all the way home. It was the most uncomfortable, like dude, my back, my shoulders, my whole body was just destroyed.

That's still like a 14, 15 hour drive from Atlanta.

Like 17, I think.

Yeah.

Yeah. And you couldn't, like the car didn't feel, like it didn't feel comfortable to do, to like go fast. Tires were shot. They had two different color rims. The one of the calipers was like hanging up and it was a different color. So like someone had thrown a caliper on it at some point, but we didn't know if they like threw it on outside.

Yeah.

And didn't, you know, cause sometimes like we'd come slowing down and like the brakes would kind of fade.

And so my town car was in better shape. And I picked it up.

Dude, for real, like it was the sketchiest purchase.

And then why did it appeal to you so much?

Ah, dude, I love that s***.

Really?

Like the idea of getting it. And then I was like, dude, I'll do some work on it. And then, so my idea was I'm going to flip it. And at the time with what the market was doing and where I got it at, I'm like, if I put 15 to 20 grand into this thing, I'm going to come up like 30 to $35,000 on this car.

Yeah.

I just got to do all these things.

And yes, you didn't.

So I did everything.

Okay.

And I absolutely fell in love with the car. I love everything about it.

You're like, I'm keeping it.

And well, at the time, I wasn't planning to for sure keep it, but I liked it more.

Did you still have the other one at this time too? Yes.

That was an issue. That was an issue in my household because where we're sitting right now, there is a 580-2 that I owe 100 and whatever I owed on it. Like very nice, high spec car. And then there is a 610-4 that's beat to the, just beat down. But I had two Huracans sitting in here and I'm out, you know, trying to grind and hustle and like make money and you know, everybody that goes like, what is going on here? Like you're in this shed and you've got two Lamborghinis. Like what are you doing? And I'm like, dude, I have no idea. Like I'm financially irresponsible and I should not be trusted with any of this. And so I worked on that car. We got it. I brought Charlie and Charlie said, dude, I don't even know where to start. I'm like, well, let's start with the basics. He's like, okay, the rear bumper's falling off. There's stuff grounding out underneath. He said, it looks like one of the wire harnesses got ripped off and they tucked it up and it's literally grounding out and sparking on the. So that's the whole time where all these different lights would come on. It was the electrical. It was a main harness that was laying up there and it was controlled the ABS, all this stuff.

All right, Dan, on a scale of one to 10, how much do you think your wife loves you?

Ooh, it's gotta be like an eight, solid eight.

So I think it would be great if she used your credit card to go to ToonByShawn, shawn.com, to get you a Haltech ECU for 5% off using carbon oxide. Is that math out?

Absolutely.

I don't think we tell her about this ad until it runs though.

And he's like, dude, the steering rack is shot. It's not just a module. It's a whole rack. The oil leak is an oil, it's like your oil pump. It's a big deal. We got to move the engine up like, I'm like, oh, okay. So what do you say we do? And then he's like, got the seats out. He's like, dude, there's a tin can from a chew that was grinded into the motor. And I'm like, is it fixable? He's like, well, everything's fixable. And so I just said to do just start going. And dude, he just grinded away on it. And we ended up with the whole dash out. Dude, it was insane. Absolutely insane. All the while I'm like running over and bringing carbon fiber parts. Hey, put this on. Hey, put this on. I ordered this. I ordered this. And then dude, he got done with it. And it was like a new car. Like, okay, we got it to where everything worked. Zero check engine lights. No nothing, dude.

Okay. And what was your beer tech bill?

Dude, it wasn't. I don't want people to go to him and think he's like a good deal. But, you know, he it was very fair.

Okay.

Yeah, he took really good care of us.

It was probably more than that 1520 though.

For what's that?

Like that 1520. You said it would be to flip it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was probably more than that. So we ended up, but then we started doing stuff like I put a full carbon rear bumper on it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, and then.

Oh, that's right. Yeah.

Like it's got a lot of, it's got a lot of really nice parts on it. But he took care of us and he kind of, the thing was they do just keep bringing all your stuff to me. And literally I have ever, I mean, he's got, he's got it again now. Yeah. He's got my smart car now. He's got everything. But so then I'm like, well, I've got two of these Lambos now. And I'm like, and now I got to put a bunch of money into this one. And at the time we weren't done with the 610. And so I had gone over to Eurotech and I was getting a price to do the front coolers and all that stuff I wrecked on the rally. And this dude comes in, he's young, this young, like young, young, like 24 or something, year old dude. And he's just a young stud comes in. He's like, hey dude, I like your car. I'm like, yeah dude, me too. He's like, do you want to sell it? I'm like, no dude. I said, it needs tires. It needs this. It needs this. It needs this. It needs this. It needs all this stuff, dude. I gotta, I'm gonna have like a fat bill. I can't, I wouldn't feel right sounding. And he's like, I'll give you. And he makes an offer to me. He's like, I know what the market's doing. He's like, I know it's worth. I know what it'll take to fix. And I'm like, like you got cat. Like, what do you, what do you mean? Kind of blew him off a little bit, but was like, yeah dude, if you come with money, he's like, what are you doing tomorrow? And I'm like, I'll sell you a Lambo if you got money. And I go into Eurotech. I'm like, hey, is that dude legit? I'm like, yeah, he's got like, he's got a Gallardo. He's, I don't know. He comes in here and just pays. We do everything to his cars and he beats the crap out of them. And like, really? That dude? And then shows up. So the next day he calls like, hey, you want to meet over at your bank? I'm like, sure. And so we go over there and he shows up in a G wagon and he jumps out and he's got fresh Timberlands on and he's like, gives me a cashier's check for the whole amount. And I'm like, okay, let me, so I call and they're like, yeah, it's good. He just came in and got it. I'm like, for real? And I'm like, um, here? I don't have the title. Like the bank holds the title. I'll give you a bill of sale. And then as soon as it comes, like, here's where I bank. They have it. They can, he's like, all right, cool. We had, I'm not, I'm not worried about it. Okay. And then I had to call him. I didn't think he was for real. So I'd like call and get a ride back home. I was like, what? I can't do, sold my car. And I, and I made money even with all the damage. And now the dude's big leagues. He's got, I don't know, like four Lambos.

Okay. Interesting. Local guy still?

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah.

He's down the North loop. He's, he's awesome. He's got a, he sells big, big, big on Amazon, like home stuff. He sells like dishwasher pellets and cleaners.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The whole, yeah, the Amazon deal.

But he's, but he's kind of an OG in the space.

Yeah. Yeah.

Cause there's like, there's a, I used to have a, in my old neighborhood, an 18 year old kid had a hurricane and he was making a killing on TikTok and Amazon. Yeah. Dude, there's a TikTok shop. Yeah. TikTok shop. Oh dude. And I, off camera discussion, the amount of money in those freaking insane dude. Yep. Yeah. No, it's a, there was Bitcoin millionaires there for a little while. And I got these TikTok shop millionaires. I feel like every few years, there's like a new fad. And if you catch it just right, you'll be set for life. Yep. There's a gold rush every five years.

So there's a, just a little part of that is that there's a, some of the, where the Huracan was originally purchased, it was purchased with like, from a young dude.

Okay.

He bought it brand new. And I think he bought three supercars at once. And it was early stage Bitcoin money.

Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

But we were kind of doing the math of where it was cashed out at versus what it would have been worth. That kind of hurts to think about. But that's always, so what?

You'll always, what if it didn't too, sort of deal. 100%.

Yep. Yep. I sell a lot of my stuff kind of goes, I've caught a couple of good waves, not for anything crazy amounts of money.

Yeah.

But why aren't you holding? Because I made 10 grand. Why would I hold any longer? Like, I'm cool with taking that and I leave my money in that was there. And yeah, I can never, I can never lose now.

Yeah.

And if this keeps going.

It's like the guy that bought pizza with Bitcoin 20 years ago.

Yeah.

Well, that guy who lost his hard drive in there.

Oh, that's right.

He wants to buy the landfill. Yeah.

Because he can't hire people to go in there to do it, but he can go in. So he's, yeah, trying to buy it. I had, so when I used to play online poker a lot, when poker stars became illegal and I had to go off shore, they gave you this option to the only way to get your money back. So they gave you like months and months and months to pull your money out because the legislation. Yeah. Dan Fleischman was a big part of like getting people paid back from whatever it was. But I played a lot and my cousin was like a pro online player and he kind of told me to get your stuff out of there. Like, and I had taken everything out and then I'd left like 900 or 1000 bucks in there. And I remember because I'm like I cashed out and at the time I want to say you had to convert it to this Bitcoin and then you could use this Bitcoin. And I'm going this is this is BS. Like you guys are taking my US dollar, my money, and you're only allowing me to get it in this thing. And now I only have 300 of these stupid coins that are worthless. You can't do anything but buy, you know, illegal drugs on the Internet. You know what I mean? Bitcoin is only for sketchy stuff early on as far as I know. You know, that's all it was, was the dark web stuff. And then I remember I had this and then I'm like, well, I'm done with this stupid site and all that. And then I tried to get logged back in because I'm like, I have Bitcoin sitting somewhere. And they're like, well, it's in your wallet. In my wallet? Like, no, your digital wallet. Where did you put it? I said, I didn't put it anywhere. I was pissed. I got rid of 900 real dollars for a bunch of these stupid fake coins. And now I look back and I'm like, oh, okay. That would have been cool, you know? But...

So you have an obviously very supportive wife in this. Is there any advice you'd give to anybody else? How do you get somebody to support you in your crazy adventures?

Oh man.

Has she ever successfully talked you out of anything?

Oh yeah, dude, all the time.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah. And there's been a lot of things I've gotten into that she's been like, I wouldn't. I'm like, well, you wouldn't, but I would. And then a lot of the stuff, like her intuition is actually really, really, really good. Like she sees things that... I'm willing to look past a lot of like flaws in people and people that have past, cause like I have a past, I have a history. Like I went through some really rough times. And so like when I see somebody that's going through them, I'm like, yeah, dude, I got your back. Like I jump on board, you know, till you screw me over and then I'm out. But I've done that a handful of times and it's backfired.

Almost a hundred percent of the time. Yeah. Yeah.

And it's always the times where my wife is like, I don't trust, I don't like that person. And then it's spot on, you know? But what I would say is like for me, and obviously this has always changed. I've been married for 15 years now. She stuck with me through like the really rough, my addiction and all that. She stuck with me through it. It had got to a point where she had finally had to move out. She'd moved out, took our son. My son was really young. And then that was kind of the point. That's when I had overdosed. And then I was like, holy cow, had like that awakening. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I can't. Like I can't lose you. I'll do anything. But then it was like putting my money where my mouth is, you know? And then it was just working at it and always making sure that like, I mean, because for years, dude, my, she was like, you can't bank at my work anymore. She's like, I'm so embarrassed. I'm like, no, I know. Because I've never been afraid to like, I would spend all my money today. If it's something I believe in, I spend every dime. And I know that I do it a little differently now, but like I used to do it all the time. I'd spent all my money. I'd go overdrawn. I'm like, no, but trust me, like you give me 10 days, like this money's coming back. And it would, and sometimes it wouldn't, but I've never, I was never scared to make those moves. And she's always been the one that's like just grounded, solid. Like, so she carried us for years when we were first together. And then now it's been like, okay, well, now it's my turn. You know, now it's make sure, you know, she always drives something nice and newer and hits curbs and door dings them. Got a PDR guy just ready to go. He was just over a couple of weeks ago, you know, that kind of thing. But always like with her and now more, it's like discussing things, like letting her know, like letting her in on more. Because a lot of times I'd make decisions where I'd, she'd kind of know and then I'd just go do it anyway. But now it's like, okay, well, more of a team effort. Yeah, yeah. She still doesn't like, you know, like that big truck that I bought, the big one that's in getting a bunch more work done. She's hated that thing from the second I brought it home. And it's been a problem since the second I brought it home. So every time she's like, I told you.

Does she go out and camp in it with you or will she if it's no?

She's never even been in it. So that's part of my reasoning for redoing it now, is I'm doing it like pimp, nice, light colors. Like it's gonna be like the van life things you see.

Yeah, that stuff's cool.

Yeah, yeah. So that's where it's gonna be like, the inside is gonna be super sick. It's got a nice cat, like it's a nice truck to drive down the road. We can put the side by side on it. So we actually, she's going on a trip with me in, I think June or something to the Black Hills. That's a nice area. Side by side riding, when we're taking the big truck.

So we'll see.

See how she does.

Yeah, bring an elephant gun for those bears out there, man. They're freaking crazy out there. I want to go out there for a cruise again. That's a sweet area.

It is, yeah. Well, there's a lot of stuff out there that you don't, you don't realize, cause it's not really that far from here either. Like you can get out there.

The problem is that drive from, from Sioux Falls to, you know, the Black Hills area, right around Badlands. Yeah. Yeah.

It's about six hours up. Nothing.

Yeah.

I still remember your quote. Who, which episode was it? You're like, there wasn't a squirrel. There wasn't a bird.

There was no life.

I always say, right when you're about to just floor it into a bridge embankment, and then all of a sudden you come over a hill and there's a lake and all the scenery changes, like, yeah, right, right when you're about to lose it.

And where is the, cause I remember every time that I go anywhere near there, I ended up in Deadwood.

Yeah.

Just like, you know, the little miniature Las Vegas.

Yeah.

And you're like, oh, that area is sweet.

It's the greatest thing in my life. And then you lose all your money. You're like, get me out of here. And then there's nothing again. But yeah, that's...

I got to give her props though, man, because I think she was the one that also said like, you got to take it when I offered you, what was it, a half offer, a free rally ticket when you got deathly ill that year?

Oh dude. Yeah. That was brutal. You had a sick rally too. Like the wrap, the way it was going.

Yeah.

That was my last one with Doug.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I remember it.

I was at the East one.

East, yes.

Dude, that was epic.

Cause was it like Niagara Falls or something?

Yeah.

You guys went out.

Yeah. Scheduling was a little rough.

You could only be at Niagara Falls for about 10, 15 minutes. Yeah.

I remember that there was something with, it wasn't like you stopped here and then you had to go out and back, right?

Yeah. Cause Erie, Pennsylvania was where the track day was. So you had to go up and then back down. Yeah.

I think I, I still don't know what happened cause scheduling wise, it should have been perfect. I may have done the math backwards though.

It doesn't matter. Anybody who b****** and complained or like didn't make it back to the track day has never really rallied. Because that's part of that's rally life, right? Like sure, here, this is part of the thing. Here, get a picture of the waterfall. You're here for five minutes. Get back in. You're on to the next destination. I was there for the rally. I was there. I saw a waterfall and I wanted to get to the track day. So I was in and out. Absolutely.

Some people did the tour though of the Niagara Falls.

So we did Crown. What one was it? One of the Crowns. And there was a, you could go and you could take a ferry boat thing. Across this little thing and it was, I think, we were going into Milwaukee.

Yeah, Milwaukee. Or Muskegon, right?

I don't know which one. But we had, my wife's whole family drove to where we were coming in to see everybody come in. And we were on schedule with the big group and then a group of cars, the other cars had gone on this thing and I was like, okay, and I was watching Instagram, like, sweet. So we get in line and we're in line ready to get on this thing. And then there's an issue with the ferry. Well, then now you can't get out of line. I mean, they're cubed in. And then it was me and one of the guys from Savage Garage was driving the Ferrari. Might even been, I don't know if it was Jimbo. I don't remember what it was.

But it was Jimbo, John, John and Randy. Those are the four.

Yep. But this was a rally that Randy did not do.

Okay.

It was one that just...

Maybe one of the Johns.

I don't know. But anyway, so we were talking with him and he's like, yeah, dude, this is sick. Yo, this is gonna be cool. And we waited and then there was issues with it. And then we're like, okay, well, as long as we go, like, dude, we gotta be at the dinner. And I'm like looking at the maps and I'm like, dude, this is gonna be tight. And she's like, my whole family's waiting. And so we go and we're loading. I'm like, all right, all right, all right, we're good, we're good on time. And we get up to the front and we're one row back and like, stop. And we had to wait for it to go out and back. Well, it's like an hour and a half. And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, this isn't, this isn't cool, but now you're up and we couldn't like, we couldn't get out of there and we had now waited this long. And actually, it cut time off of going around. If it was a disaster. So we rolled in at like 10, 15. Everything's done. Like we're rolling in and just grabbing like the end of dinner.

Yeah.

Her family's all there like, huh, we got to watch everyone else come in. And I'm like, dude, I am so, but it's that's rallying. Like that kind of stuff happens. I had, dude, I did Survivor Rally and I was, I was the only one you did.

Yeah, I was on that one with you.

So the one where we came into St. Louis, where my co-pilot flipped the card and we started back over at lunch. We started back over on the card on the other side instead of the after lunch. And so we're driving and we're hitting and we're like, and we're going to my dude, these like, this s*** is not making sense. We're not seeing anybody. We're doing 130. How am I not like, I know the people are up there because we didn't, we didn't take off right away with everybody because I was like, I wanted to be able to make up some road and like get some driving in. And all of a sudden I'm looking, I'm like, these roads, we were here, like we've been here. We've been to this place. He's like, no, dude, there's no way if we're going. And he's like pulling up his maps and I'm like, dude, where are we and what is happening? And he's like, and all of a sudden we look, we stop, we're at a gas station. He's like, we're almost to launch. And I'm like, what do you mean launch? He's like, we're almost back. We're 21 minutes from the launch, from this morning. I'm like, we are not. I said, absolutely not. So we look and we are exactly like, so we're right in between, we're dead center. It's like five hours and 15 minutes to St. Louis and it's five hours and 15 minutes or something to home. We're like dead center. And I'm like, dude, how did this happen? Dinner's in like, literally there's a three hour gap between getting there and then dinner. He's like, I'm like, well, we're going to, we're going to Frick. We're going to dinner. We're getting there. I do not care. And dude, we pushed it and we cut like a five hour and something down to like 315, 320. We were hard average of at least, I mean, we were pushing 130 most of the time. Like to where it was, it got real comfortable. So when you bump up to like 160, it got, or I'm like, oh man, we're cruising and we'd like slow down to like 125. It felt like we're like parked. It was pretty, but we got in and we rolled in at dinner. Everyone's sitting down to eat and we come rolling in, they all got showered and everything. And I'm like, dude, we just made the most, and we got a standing ovation. Everyone's clapping and I'm like...

Were they tracking on any app or anything?

I don't know if they were tracking. We were in contact with them and told them like, hey, we're coming. And I had told them the situation.

So I remember we were doing my south one for Whiplash and we had a guy coming in from Arizona, so Phoenix area. He's driving across. And then we also were watching, I think it was Carissa or somebody. And dude, we were watching on the app because I would tell you what speed they were going on, Joyner or whatever it was. And he was cruising like 120 the whole way through Texas. Like we woke up the next morning. We're like, holy s***, he's over here.

Ross was hauling a**.

Dude, Ross, Ross Ross?

No, he's from Phoenix.

Yeah, he's a super guy, yeah, sort of.

What I didn't like about that one is our dinners were really late too at night for that Survivor one.

Well, I think they got like a better deal to go in.

You know, if you go into the museum at nine at night, dude, my first rally, I charged people, I think, full price was $675 or $750. And we had Fogada Chow, we had pretty decent hotels.

This is just like, this was during COVID though.

So like, you know, the rally was in June, COVID started in March. So we were like, kind of like in between, like waves of people freaking out. Yeah, before like, like when lockdown, open, full-fledged. Yeah. Yeah. Like it was after the first lockdown, but before like the second round or whatever, or whatever it was. But I remember like we were like for our track day at PPIR, like we didn't even rent the track. We just bought per person, 75 bucks per person to get them on the track because it was like a shared track day. People had more than enough track time. Yeah.

That was my first time on a track. It was f****** fabulous.

That's awesome.

People were b******* about rally price tickets. I'm like, guys, it doesn't exist anymore. 675 for a full on like, dude, this one crown was 3, 3,200 bucks.

Yeah.

And we were up to the price.

It was a value.

Yeah. We didn't have a lot of launches and crazy stuff. But like you still got 80% of the rally experience.

Yeah.

And we were the first ones to do like the Minneapolis. I think the only ones do the Minneapolis to Pikes Peak run. Yeah. Yeah.

I've always like, I know a handful of people that were, hey, I want to put together a rally. Do you want to have them? And dude, no, zero percent.

You have a Lambo. I'm reaching out to you. Tell me advertise. I want to. That's how it was.

Yeah, no, the advertising, sure. But asking help, like, hey, could you help us plan it? I'm like, no, no, no. You guys are insane.

Too much effort.

Yeah, there's so much work to go. But the respect level I have for, even when you're doing it, like I told you, I'm gonna come, because I planned to go on that one. And I'm going on it only because I think you're insane doing this.

I think it was a free ticket I offered you.

Yeah, yeah, it was, I don't remember what it was, but it was a good enough deal.

He's never offered me a free ticket, by the way.

You didn't have a f****** Lambo.

He didn't have a Lambo. It was the only thing I had going for.

Well, to be fair, at that point, you and I were talking pretty regularly, too. Like you, I think we established a pretty good friendship at that point.

And I wasn't looking for a free ticket. No, you weren't. So then when he had said, like, dude, I'll cover... And then I'm like, oh, well, I can't say no to that, because I do want to come and show you the support and made some posts and was like, hey, we're going and then got COVID.

And for me, it was a gamble on the future of what I was planning to do at that time. That was before me and Doug were on the outs. But yeah, I was taking a pretty big gamble. And cause like you got me at least one or two rallyers that year as well. So I was like, all right, cool. Like we're still losing money, but yeah, yeah.

But cool. It's still, well, that rallying is, it's wild.

Well, now that we're on the topic, so you got your Lambo. This is the Gallardo now. When did you do Crown for the first time?

So first time I did Crown would have been in, I think, yeah, I did it in the Gallardo cause we went to, we did North in the Gallardo. I did a couple of them in the Gallardo.

Okay.

And then cause I remember doing the massive line lock burnout in front of Shriners cause they told me to. And then one of the workers came out and was like, we got a video and he's like hitting my car.

He's like, stop, stop, you can't do that.

And I'm like, dude, I'm in the middle of this. Like, you can't, I can't stop. I'm gonna, like, you know, you can't just let off and be done. You gotta like kind of roll out of this thing. There's some, there's some things you gotta do in your lines. You can't stop midstream.

Yeah.

Dude, for real. Like, you can't just, like I already started. And so, yeah, so I did it in the Lambo. I did a couple of them in the Lambo. And then got into, then did for sure one, maybe two in the 580. And dude, the 580, when I started rallying that, I'm like, this is the sketchiest car. Cause it had too much power. It was rear wheel drive. And it was like, as soon as you got on any sort of like, we got some rain. And I mean, I'd be like, you're driving and the whole car is like doing this. I'm like, man, we're only doing 90, but if we crash, like, and then there was times where you'd be going kind of slow and be coming up a hill. And I'll say, look, I'm like, why is my traction control? I'm, my tires are spinning. Like what is happening here? And, and then, so then that was when I got into, when I rallied the 610, like, oh, I'm very confident in this car. Can't do the hood rat stuff. Couldn't do the donuts and stuff, but I'll never, I'll never go back to a rear wheel drive car for, for rallying anyway. That's, it's like a, I don't know, a GT3 or something.

Maybe, were you still buddies with all of the Hudson car crew before, like, Paul, Grady, all that stuff, before you got your Lambo, or before you got into Crown and all that stuff, or did that relationship come from that?

It kind of, I was friends with them a little bit before, but like, I took the, so I remember, like, when I met Grady, I literally would see his GTR rolling around. It was loud. I had my Maserati with, you know, a Fab Speed full straight exhaust on it, and like with, or with cutouts or whatever. So it was, I could be loud too. And so, and I'd like see him, and he goes, wow, he'd take off. I'm like, damn it. I saw it parked one day out in front of a building, and I was like, s***, pulled up next to it. Walked in and like hit the little bell, ding. And it's like this big building and there's nobody in there. Guy comes up, he's young, he's like, what's up? Is that your car? He's like, it depends. I'm like, well, I'm Ryan, dude, that's my car. And if that's yours, it's super loud. It's sick. We're going to be friends. And he was like, he was a little bit. I mean, he-

I know how great he is at first. Yeah.

Yeah.

He was standoffish and I was a weirdo. Like, dude, all that was weird.

Yeah.

But I'm like, no, dude, we're going to be like, we're going to be friends. And it was, it was hard to get in. And I had no idea who Grady was. No idea. I just knew he had a dope car.

This is before I was full carbon too.

Yeah. This one, it was white. Yeah. And I thought it was sick at that time. So like I was friends with him as he went through, but he was like not, it wasn't like he'd really share. And he's like, yeah, we're just getting some lighter weight parts. I'm like sick. What's that even mean? Like carbon fiber hood. And then he like sends me a couple pictures of carbon fiber. And then all of a sudden I get a picture and I'm like, that's like the ceiling. Like that's like your, that's your whole car. What are you talking about? Who is this guy? Like who's making a carbon fiber car? This is like NASA does this s***. Like what are you doing? Like it blew my mind and then, yeah, and we've been great friends ever since and I've just stayed, you know, and now he's, I mean, he's fricking awesome. But it was hard to get in and like get to be friends with him because I don't know, I mean, he probably thought I was just a complete lunatic.

Yeah.

Because I was a weirdo that just didn't run in.

Box checked.

Yeah, box checked. I own that, like that was weird, but I was like, yeah, if you're worried, we're going to be cool because you got cool s***. I like that. So yeah. And then we got in. I went to one of the launches and I went to the launch in my Maserati. And I remember being up like at the front and all the Lambos are there, Swens there with the, I think he had the yellow one.

Yeah.

No, Jim was, Jim brought the yellow Aventador.

And then wasn't that Michael Jordan's previously?

Was it?

No, another cool story. I think it was like the second highest spec, the Aventador ever at that point. Yeah. Right after Michael Jordan's, I think. That one makes sense.

Yeah, it was something like that. It was rowdy.

It was a sweet car.

But then to like all of a sudden be hanging out and then like to go. And then I bought my Gallardo. And then like one of the first times I went driving, it was with Grady and Jim.

Okay.

And I'm like, you made the big leagues. And all of a sudden they're like, what?

Oh my God.

These guys are nuts. These guys are pure insanity. And even the first rally I went on in Gallardo, I'm like, you know, I'm a driver. And then I got out there, I'm like, oh, no, I'm not. Like, these guys throw down. Like, this is the real deal. I'm like, I got to up my game and just drove a whole bunch. And I'm like, okay, now we're, yeah, now we can at least run in like the second or third tier. We're not interested in the first. I'm not interested in being the first group of cars that blows through places. But yeah. And then we just kind of all started hanging and everyone was kind of from right here. And then all of a sudden I started realizing that these little towns had like a real car community of people. Yeah. And then all of a sudden someone would like show up and I'm like, die. Where'd this McLaren come from? Oh, live right down the street. From me? What do you mean? He's like, yeah, yeah. And all of a sudden it's like, there's like 20 exotic cars that are within 15 minutes of here and I'm like, wow. Yeah. It was wild. Wild, wild.

That's one thing I like about, because like we moved recently. I'm pretty close to the motorplex in Medina now.

Yeah.

So it's like, oh, car friends.

Yeah. Lots of car friends.

Yeah.

Yeah. There's a lot of cars out there. I like it out there.

Yeah.

I don't like driving out there from here.

I know he b****** about it all the time. He's like, oh, I don't want to go to Medina.

It's like a road trip.

It is.

I know.

It's a hike.

I complain all the time about not enough stuff on the east side or anything like nothing happens in White Bear Lake or Woodbury or anything like that. It's all f****** over there or in the South Metro or Chanhassen. It's like, I'm tired of it. Yeah. So are we going to get the exit for stuff up and running again this year?

If I have a car so far, this is this is what I've got right now.

I'll pick you up in the Mustang and go ride Passenger Princess. Okay.

I could do that.

Yeah. So, okay. You mentioned this early in the episode. So where's the Lambo right now? What happened with that?

Okay. So the Lambo back in July of last year, I was driving and we came through right up by my house. There's some spots on the road that are really low from all the trucks that drive down the road. And so like even in my wife's Tahoe, like you kind of hydroplane, like you know to kind of hover over them. And I was, we were driving and it started downpour like really heavy. So I knew we were coming up on it, but I could barely see. And so I'm kind of trying to hover over them and a semi comes the other direction and like hits the ruts on that side. And it douses the car. Like it felt like the windshield was going to blow in on it. And then instantly when that happens, I just, you know, closed my eyes and held on and we're hydroplaning and it all happened. I was only doing 30 miles an hour. So it's not like I was doing 60 and it was this dangerous, but couldn't see anything. And then it gives a little sputter and then check engine light comes on. Oh my God, not a big deal. Drove into the neighborhood, got it in here, brought it into my shop, popped the trunk on it, popped the hood, whatever, and turned a big fan on. And I'm like, dude, I've had issues with these Lambos all the time. You let them sit overnight and let them think about what they did. And then, you know, if you need to use your $12 scanner and you reset them and it's never had like an ongoing issue. Next day, I come out and I fire the car up. It's like brrrr, and you can just hear it's got to miss. And I'm like, dang it. So I call my insurance agent. I'm like, hey, dude, here's what happened. I have no idea the scope of what's going on, but what do I do? It's from water. He's like, yeah, dude, you're totally covered. It's all good. I'm like, okay, sweet. And so I bring it over to Charlie. He kind of looks and then he's like, dude, we might want to get a second opinion. He tried switching some injectors, starts looking. And he's like, let's do a compression test and just make sure. I'm like, well, dude, it can't be. We've got a rally coming up in like two weeks, three weeks. Like I'm not trying to have it be that. He's like, well, we got to rule it out.

I'm like, okay.

So we compression test it. And cylinder four is like 12 PSI. Like, oh, like that's not good. He's like, no, that's not good at all. I'm like, okay, what do we do? He's like, well, I mean, you say the words, we'll start digging into it, but it's going to be a substantial bill. Like you've got, so it's either, it's something with the valve train, then maybe it's a, otherwise you've got a hole in a piston. Like, then I'm like, okay.

At this point, valve train is your best case scenario.

Best case scenario, yep, yep. And, and so I'm like, oh shoot, like we've got a rally soon and we've got, so I got ahold of my insurance. I had it, I put it in the, put the car in the trailer so I could bring it to wherever we needed to bring it. And I get it in here, they send a guy out, the guy comes out, he's young, super cool, he's got a Ducati, looks at it, he's like, dude, is this Young Dolphs? I'm like, no, no, it's just the wrap. I wish, that'd be sweet. This one's got like 100,000 miles on it, so it's not that cool. And he's like, all right, cool, take some pictures. I'm like, yeah, dude, you got, you know, you're covered, it's all good. Doesn't open the back, doesn't look inside, doesn't look at anything, just kind of kicks it and goes. And then told me like, yeah, it'll be, you know, it'll be covered, you got coverage. And you just got to do everything that they say through insurance and it'll all be covered. I'm like, okay, cool. Like no big deal. So we do every single thing. And then they approve it. And they send us our first check for like 13 or 1400 bucks. And I'm like, well, what is that going to do? And they're like, well, it's just original. That's what diagnostics, that's what we're paying for diagnosis. I'm like, okay, cool. And then they wanted next steps and they wanted cost of next steps. And I'm like, well, next step is like, the motor has to come out. To do anything, the motor has to come out. We have to check. You have to get down inside the motor. You're going to have to, so we couldn't scope that cylinder because inside there is so shiny that there was no scope that could go in and the light just, you couldn't see. I mean, you'd probably be able to see if there was like a huge hole, but it was all just shiny. So we couldn't see if it was scoring or anything. And so he's like, what route do you want me to go here? I'm like, well, let's just get it apart. Well, then we found broken valve and bad valve train. I'm like, okay, well, that'd be sweet, right? He's like, well, yes, but why? And then he scanned it and there was something had happened with a timing code or something had thrown like right before, or like right as this happened, it had thrown some code that had never thrown before in the data log. As the, right when the water hit it, he's like, so that could be like, if we jump time, like there's just a lot of things, right? So let's figure out with insurance. So then I'm waiting and waiting and waiting, and they're just dragging this on and they have to give the approval before you can do more stuff.

Right.

And then we got into, there was some things said and there was, they were saying one thing and then they were handing it off to someone else and blaming it on the third party inspector. And then the inspector didn't actually show up. Dude, it was, it's been a complete disaster. And now it's drug on and they're like, we need to give us the full breakdown of worst case scenario. I said, well, hopefully we can rebuild it. I don't know, like, but I don't want to rebuild it and then have you guys be like, you know, and then have something go wrong with it or have something that they find further in tear down. Cause they wouldn't give us the approval to like, tear it all the way down. Cause they want to know what's wrong. I'm like, well, we need to know more. And so they wanted worst case scenario. They said, just submit it, worst case scenario. And I'm like, okay. So we go with a factory motor, you know, we call Glenn from AMH, we get a full scope and, and then dude, the invoice, it's like $84,000, like to do the whole thing. So that's what we submitted. And then we told them like, it probably is going to be significantly less. But if you need a worst case scenario, here's what it is with a factory motor. Now what? And then, so they take another two months, don't hear anything. And mind you, it's sitting in Charlie's shop, taken completely apart, taking up space since last July. And I'm like, dude, we have to figure out something. Like, I'm embarrassed. I'm going to be charged rent for this space.

Yeah.

You know, like-

Well, it's taking up his workspace. Yeah.

Yeah. And I'm like, this is completely unprofessional. This is like, it's gotten, and now it's gotten pretty nasty. And then they send us a letter. They just declined the whole thing. They're not covering nothing. Yep. So now it's legal. And we're, so now I've got to do everything through an attorney. And there's a lot of things that were said in their documentation that they used that were not, and they use it as like factual statements that I made. It's like, no, that was never, that was never what was said, because that's not what the story was. And there was things said that, you know, someone was there in person, they had a physical person there and they didn't, they did at the end, they had a mechanical engineer finally came out.

But after things already kind of got nasty or what?

Oh, yeah, yeah, and after the motor's out, the oil's out, like it's ready to go to what the next step is.

Yeah.

And they finally sent, after saying they had months before.

Interesting.

And they finally sent someone out. And I, you know, in my opinion, he was not a, as we know, he's not a, it's not, this isn't exactly what he does.

The exotic cars are not. It's not certified, yeah.

Yeah, it's not a Lamborghini tech.

You would want somebody that knows about it to come out.

And so, and at the end of the day, what it came down to is, they're telling me, well, that could have been wear and tear. And I said, no, a hundred percent, it could have been, except for it happened the second the water hit the car. So if it would have happened on a sunny day, I wouldn't be calling you guys. And so now we're at a point where it's like, they're saying, well, it could have happened at a different time, but they're not, they can't say, like to me, I'm looking at, well, could it have happened because of the water? Like what could have? It's like, so, okay, so who's right here? Why am I, I've been, I've paid for insurance for seven years on a Lamborghini with zero claims. Why are we running into this issue? Why is this a discussion? Why is this a discussion? In the documentation, I have water and flood coverage, 100% on there. So yeah, so it's getting nasty. And now we finally have just, I talked to Charlie like a month ago, three weeks ago. I talked to him all the time, but I talked to him and I finally told him, I said, dude, I'm like, I'm embarrassed. I keep trying to send more vehicles to him that I pay for in the meantime to be like, Hey dude, like, thank you.

Sorry.

And I go in my car's there and it's like, takes up all this space and there's s*** everywhere.

Yeah.

It's completely taken apart, right?

Completely taken apart. I mean, motors out every single, like, I feel horrible that it's sitting there.

But it's just a result of insurance not wanting to pay out.

Yeah. And so now I'm like, and another thing like, do we use that? That car is used, that is a tool, 100% for my business.

Yeah.

My business thrives off, like I go and build relationships and that's where I build them is in the car community.

Yeah. And actually, before you continue on that, how much of your business has come from people within the car community? It's gotta be a significant amount.

It is.

Yeah. Yeah.

We've done a lot of work for people in the car community because to me it's like, let's build a relationship. We're not like, so I do commercial construction, commercial flat roofing. That's what we do. And it's such a like tattered industry with, and right now it's a lot of like these exterior companies trying to get into it.

Yeah.

And they're trying to push like super high pressure sales. And these guys that are coming in, they've never put a roof on. They're just salesmen. So they're really, really good at it, but they tell people whatever they want to hear to get a roof sold. And we're like, dude, let us get you as much money as you possibly can get out of your roof. Let's get as much life as you can by doing maintenance. And then we'll replace it the correct way, which costs more money. Like we're more expensive. But when you get in with these guys that have, you know, real estate and nice cars and they own these buildings and like, you get in with them and you explain why. They're like, oh yeah, that's what we want. We want it done right. We didn't know. We thought that was right. Cause the guy came in and he, you know, he looked really nice. He was dressed nice. And I come in, tattooed on my neck and looked like a hood rat. But then when I'm like, yeah, I've been in this industry for 21 years. And I have personally put on these roofs for longer than this kid's been alive, you know. So, but yeah, it's been in the car's been just a huge tool. Cause like we go to, you know, we go to so many charity events and we go to golf events where it's all building owners. Well, when you show up or all construction workers that need, you know, it's big companies that need commercial roofers as subcontractors. And so when you show up to these things and you, you know, you pull a set of golf clubs out of a Lamborghini, like people want to talk to you.

Yeah.

Cause they want to know, they're like, what, he's got a tattoo on his head. Why is he at our event? And why does he have a, what are you doing with a camouflage Lamborghini?

Yeah.

And how does that have anything to do with commercial roofing? You know, so it's, it gets a ton of attention. And, and then, you know, as long as you're not a douche bag, you can, you know, then I become friends with these people. And then they pay us to do work and we do really good work for them. And I tried to explain that to insurance, like when this was all happening, I said, this, this actually does play a huge factor in my business. In, in my, like, in my yearly overall business that we do in revenue, this car plays a big part.

A significant role.

Yeah. And I think they just kind of are like, okay, yeah, whatever. And so now, and now as we talk about, like, when we look forward into, like, taking this to real, you know, like it would have to go probably all the way to trial, which we don't want. We don't want that at all. All I want is the damn car fixed. Yeah. And I just want it back and I just want to drive it. And I don't want to be suing people. And I don't want to be, especially big insurance. Like, dude, I'm not, I don't have big insurance suing money, but-

Can I ask you the name of the insurance company?

Yeah. Yeah. It's Hagerty.

Okay.

All right.

Yeah. So, and we've tried to like, I don't, like, I don't want to go purposely putting them on blast, but then at the same time, I'm like, I don't want, I don't want my people that I care about and that follow me to have to deal with what I'm dealing with. Oh, yeah.

Well, you and I are in the super car groups, right? Locally. It's like, you're, you said what? You were with them seven years?

So, Hagerty, I don't know how long, I have an agent that does it all. But Hagerty, for sure, the entire time I've had this Lambo has been through them.

So, at least what? Three, four years, whatever. Two, three years. Like, you're paying a significant amount, and it's like, you've never done a claim, ever. Like, and this is coming from a personal place, too, by the way, because we got dropped from our insurance when we were moving or whatever. And it's like, you had one claim. What was the claim? $800. I didn't even, we didn't even cash to check. It's like, for like, you know, a roof or whatever it was, and they dropped us. And it's like, this is like some serious s*** going on with these insurance companies right now from again, every group, it's all over Facebook. I know Dan's on social media guy. Everybody's b******* about insurance.

It's like I've not ever been on social media. And I have a flip phone. Jesus Christ, I'm not 70.

Dan's homage.

You're also, these super car groups, I'm in a few of them as well.

Yeah.

I remember we were on a cruise with him not that long ago.

Yeah.

This is the third person Dan's seen in his life. He just got out of his cave.

I'm like Laura Ingalls over here in Little House on a Prairie or some s***.

But point being, it's like, I don't know what it is, man. It's like you'll pay in for years and years and years, and then when it's time to use insurance for what you actually want to use it for. And me personally, I got no access to grind with Hagerty. I'd like to disclose that right here. But nonetheless, it's like, come on, dude. Yeah, and this is also worst case scenario you're talking about too, right? Like I'm a professional arguer. I'm Bosnian. I argue for a living. Yeah. So it's like, it's not going to be an $84,000 bill.

Right. But when you tell us like we need to, like we have to come up with something.

Yeah.

And so Charlie's like, well, dude, I'm hoping we can rebuild it.

Yeah.

I'm like, yeah, but if we're getting money to, like, are we getting money just to rebuild it? Is it going to be like, I still want it done right.

Exactly. Otherwise, you're back here for round two.

And then we're back here for. And then what happens when it does happen? Something does happen to it because we went the cheaper route. And then I'm looking at like, well, what would I just, like for me, I would have had this thing fixed in 45 days.

Yeah.

Like I'd have been pushing to get on the next rally, for sure, because I would have just bit the bullet and I would have figured out a way to just pay for it. It would have been fine. And now here we are drug on.

Almost a year later.

Almost a year later. And we've missed a ton of different things. I had to rent a car to go on the crown that I had already paid for.

What did you end up paying for? The GTR, right?

Yeah, the GTR.

We're having them on tomorrow.

Yeah.

Or Jacob on tomorrow.

I wanted to buy it so bad. That car, dude, it was old and it was amazing.

Yeah.

You just love the old beat down supercars.

It was incredible and it was comfortable to drive.

That car was too safe for you to buy. I think you wanted something with more of a story. Yeah. A few more lampshade moments.

Yeah. That needed a little bit more, or maybe like a little bit more sketchy, cheap part power.

Yeah.

Like a thousand horse, but like on like some eBay turbos or something. That's more.

I keep having a company reach out. What is it? Like maxing speed rods, whatever it's called, like the super cheap s***. They keep trying to reach out about sponsorship.

Yeah.

Hit me up.

I'm like under no circumstance, like, no, this is a premium channel only.

Yeah. Yeah.

My first like hot, well, high horsepower car was in 04, I think. Oh, yeah. 04 would have been. And it was on an SS Auto Chrome. No, nothing. So it was a $499 full turbo kit for a B series under motor. And we made 317 wheel horsepower with it. And we drove the balls out of it. Yeah. And it was incredible. Like we were like crushing people.

That's pretty quick from back then. That car is light. Yeah, dude.

It was in a 99 or 2000 hatch.

That pretty much weighed like 2300 pounds.

Yeah. And so like no tech Tyler and then Nate. Your V8 sucks, Nate. OK. With the front wheel drive. I mean, he's down in the eighth second.

Say the date. I keep hearing about blanking out his name. His last name. But yeah.

Yeah. Kemper. Kemper.

Yeah. OK.

Whatever it is. Yeah. He's awesome. You should have him on.

Yeah. I keep hearing that from a lot of people.

He's a good dude. He's a he's like he's a real one.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. But yeah, so that's that's where the Lambo is. And now we're at so parts actually arrived today to Charlie's shop. He called me. He's like, hey, dude, first full round of parts. OK, a lot of parts and a lot of money. And yeah.

So at the moment, are you just paying out of cash at this point? Yeah, because the guy's got to make his own money, too. And nothing's worse than somebody doesn't pay a shop.

Well, you need your car back to my car. Yeah.

So that's where I'm at the point. And I talked to my attorney and I'm like, what what what do I do here? I said, if this is going to take, and I wish that like I was in the wrong a little bit, so I could just back off and just, but I'm like, no, I'm, I pay my bills and I just had to re like, I had to send in my thing to reinstate my agent's like, hey dude, you're up for, you're gonna renew your, and I'm like, well, yeah, we have to, we're in the middle of trying to get a claim. I haven't drove the, I haven't touched the car. The car's been sitting with the engine out, like literally we're coming up on a year. So if you look, if you factor in my car payments of $2,000 something dollars a month, and my insurance payment, like we're talking like $25,000 I've made in payments for something that is sitting here. Just sitting. And so, yeah, dude, so it's super frustrating, but we've now, I just told him like, I'm just gonna pay it, we'll get it all paid up, and then we will just go after, and then we'll know right where we're at. Cause as he gets in, cause I mean-

Do you know how far along, like since it's all torn apart, does he know what it's gonna cost now at this point?

So we should actually know, I think tomorrow. So he had pulled the heads apart, and the heads are actually coming off, and then we'll-

Okay.

And then we'll know for sure if it's catastrophic, or if we can keep on the path we're on right now. Cause right now- Cause that would cut the bill in half. Yeah, yeah. So right now the idea, the plan is we're rebuilding the motor that's there, and we're putting in, you know, all new belt train on that side. And then while you're in there with, you know, with the timing jumping on, so we're doing, I think the chains, do all the timing components, phasers, that stuff. And so I'm like, okay, sweet. Well, that sounds way cheaper. And he like told me what the parts bill was. And I'm like, that's gross. He's like, yeah.

That's just frustrating, man. Cause like that's supposed to be the place for enthusiasts.

Yeah.

Right. Like that's kind of as marketed as.

Well, I think they're like, one of their slogans is driven, not parked or something.

Or we want them driven, not like drive your passion or something like that. Something weird.

That's what it used to be. And then it changed. I was just doing some LinkedIn, LinkedIn-ing the other day.

So interesting.

Yeah.

And that's what I would see. Some pre-lotsuit stocking.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And like, I just, I just want it taken care of. And I'm not wrong, you know? Like, they're telling me that, well, there would be water in the airbox. And it's like, yeah, but you guys didn't have someone show up till seven months later to actually physically see the car. So like, if I poured water here, and seven months later I came back, there's not gonna be water here.

Yeah.

I don't know if, I mean, I'm not a scientist or nothing, but like, there's not gonna be. And the car ran and drove still. It's got 10 cylinders and one was down. Like, the car runs and drives. Like, I put it in and out of a trailer like three times, you know? Yeah. So, and they're like, well, did you, you could drive it? And I said, well, I couldn't drive it. I started it, pulled it in, you know, obviously once we found out that like, it had no compression, we weren't just, You weren't driving it anymore. We weren't starting it and driving it anymore.

Right.

But the damage had been done. It never got over an idle for, you know, revving wise. Like we weren't revving it or anything. We're just moving it in.

Well, it's kind of like when something happens with your car and you're like, huh, that was weird. Let's try turning it on and off again. Like it is that sort of.

Yeah.

Yeah. That's the norm.

Something goes wrong with your phone.

Turn it on and off again.

For us that have phones. So you just turn it off, you turn it back on and you're like, all right. It did its magic. And that's what the Lambos like on rallies too. We had tons of times where we'd get 10 check engine lights. I remember.

It's the civic of supercars. So when something's wrong, you're like, oh, something's actually wrong.

Yeah, yeah, like this. I'm like, oh, I know.

I did that once and blew the valve cover off my car when I restarted it. So that was an instance where I should have left it shut off.

Yeah, that's a bad one.

Yeah, that's a bad one.

So my thing is I just want it back. I just want to drive it.

That's right. I'm sorry. Your goldfish and turtle comment was just the best before the show.

Oh dude, yeah. Yeah, for real. Cause that's when they're telling me like, we didn't see water in the air box. I'm like, well, the engine's been out for five months.

Right.

Do you think there'd be stent? I can go to where the car is sitting in the shop it's sitting in. And yeah, that's what I said to you. I could put goldfish in it. We could have a whole a**, I could have brought that thing down with me to North Carolina and dumped it in the flood water.

Yeah.

I could have done something, but I don't have anything to, I'm just, here's exactly what happened. I called the day it happened. I set this, everything was put in motion to make sure that, you know, cause I don't want to, I understand that things can happen, but you can't, if you can't prove that it's a hundred percent not caused by this, like, and when your coverage covers that, like to me, that kind of seems, seem pretty cut and dry.

It's also, it's not like you're trying to total a car out either. We're just trying to fix it.

Yeah. Right.

That's another thing too.

Yeah.

Cause you know, like a car crash would have been a lot easier.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But it's, and I do also understand, the frustrating part is I understand that like, when I saw that price that he sent me, he's like, dude, this is like, this is the cost if we go that route.

Yeah.

I'm like, I don't even want to submit like, but they're like, well, we need to see something that shows, and they had told me, just submit worst case scenario. I'm like, okay, well, this is it. I'm hoping that it's not that, you know, because I also would feel like, I don't know, I would hate to see a brand new Lamborghini crate motor go in that car, because I don't know, I just... Yeah, why would I hate that? It does, you know, and I would way rather go, like, my style, like, yeah, dude, let's rebuild it. Let's go get it. Let's go in another 100,000 miles.

You're not trying to get one over on anybody in this situation.

No, and if I was...

We could think of somebody that would. Yeah.

But like, if I was, I've had, I have access to that, I could have made, when I know someone's coming over to look at it, I could have made there be water in there, you know? So it's like, of course, there's not water in there.

Yeah, it's kind of like early, like in the early 2000s, like when before you go to return something, scratch it up a little bit.

Yeah. You know, I want to make sure they're not taking it back.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yep.

Where does, so obviously, we kind of harped on that for a little bit. So what's next on that agenda? Is there like, what's, what are the next steps, I guess, there? For the car? Yeah.

Or for the...

For that whole ordeal. Are you allowed to speak to that at all or not?

A little bit. So I'm kind of chilling out. I kind of went, shared some of the stuff on social media of kind of, you know, from my point of view, where we're at. And this is, like I said, this is the hardest part for me is that I don't want, I have a huge following of supercar owners, specialty car owners, collector car owners. Like that's my circle of people. And like, I don't want them, if this is what I'm dealing with, I don't want them dealing with it. I've had, and they asked me like, well, have you had issues with Hagerty before? I'm like, no, never. We've never had a claim. I've never had a problem. I've always been insured. They make it super easy. The like, I mean, my agent does it all, but I get the little emails and stuff. And they send me a sweet magazine every month, like no issues until this. And so to me, I'm like, well, like I would personally like to speak even more about it, but I also don't want to be, you know, I'm not trying to bash them. I just want them to make it right. And I have talked to some people that are like, I never had any issues with them.

Interesting.

I'm like, okay, well, that's cool. That's good to know, but I am having issues with them. So I would like for the people that I care about to not have to worry about that issue, especially because a lot of the people I know, you know, my little baby car collection is, you know, like-

Drop in the bucket.

Yeah, it's like what they daily drive is like the value of the full entire collection.

You see some, like me and Dan have seen some cool s*** traveling. Oh dude, I can't imagine.

Yeah.

Like we're talking like belongs in a museum level stuff, like-

Well, what about that singer Porsche where you had your head and you had the door open, and she told me the price tag, and I was like, Harris, get out of that right now.

Yeah, she's like, because Dan's like just, I hear him talking in the background, like, oh, Dan's doing his thing, you know, talking to guests or whatever, and he's like, oh, what's this car go for, like four or 500,000? She's like, what'd she say, 1.8 million?

I thought it was 3 million.

It might have been something else.

It was crazy.

And he's like, here's, get your hand off that door.

Oh my gosh. Yeah, but like that's those kinds of people, like that is what Hagerty specializes in. It's collectors, things that are hard to get a value on, like we have an agreed upon value policy because we did a lot of modifications. We put carbon bumpers on it. Like there's a lot of things we did do it. And we needed to have it insured for that. And at the time-

Well, that's their whole selling point, right? Is that agreed upon value? Yeah.

And so like to me, I'm like, okay, well, then why wouldn't like, I don't know. To me, I feel-

It's not like you're a new customer either.

Yeah. And I feel like a prick to not tell people.

Yeah.

Like, you know, but we're going to kind of take it easy and I'm hoping that they just are willing to make it right. I don't want to have to go through anything legal. Yeah.

You just want to work out because like, again, it's like if you signed up last month and all of a sudden, oh, the car is ruined. All right. Fishy s***.

Yes.

Like episode 77, if anybody wants to know the full story on this one. I never made a highlight because we don't want to draw too much attention to it. But like, you know, he signed up and then did his whole windshield the next day, and it turned into a whole investigation. And it's like, it's not like you did that, you were with them for a prolonged period.

Yeah.

So I don't know.

And like, dude, I've replaced, I think four Lamborghini windshields. Out of pocket? Yeah, out of pocket. Yeah, because I'm like, I don't want to.

You're a good guy.

Yeah, I don't want to.

You're better to me.

Wisconsin's got different rules.

Yeah, we don't have the same.

We don't have the same. So on my last one, on my 2016, on the 580, we had a separate policy just for glass. It was its own glass policy. And then I was going to use that one, but I didn't because homeboy bought the car.

Yeah, fair enough.

It was all good.

But then he claimed the next day.

Yeah, they did my guyardo. I've done this one. I think this one, I want to say we did this one twice, but yeah, out of pocket because I'm not trying to.

You having gully do them?

Is that the guy that comes, it came out to...

Scott Gullickson, he comes out, he's like an older guy, but he's in...

I've never met him. I've always just had the car. I've had the car places.

If you ask in this area, these are the number one people, it's like asking who to have windows tinted. Okay. And everybody throws Brian Rosenberger out there.

So this one, yeah. I mean, in literally in my phone, it's like the Lambo windshield guy.

Yeah. Okay.

It's got to be, I'm guessing that's who he is.

He's probably in my phone as Mustang windshield guy because I just order him up and he shows up.

I think John Wayfoe.

Yeah.

I think he's the one who gave me the number. Oh, okay. I'm guessing it's interesting. Probably the same guy.

Okay.

Yeah.

Now, hopefully that all gets resolved, man, because obviously nobody wants to bash anybody, right? You just want it done. Yeah, that makes sense.

I'm not 22 anymore and want to... you know what I mean? Like, it's not... I'm so past the...

You don't got that podcaster time to argue with people all day.

Dude, it just is like, I'm so over the...

I don't know. You just want your car back.

Yeah, just want my car back.

I get it.

Well, I've done. And I'd even, like, honestly, they just take care of it. Like, I don't even want to change anything with my insurance. I don't want to have to go through calls and wait with my agent. I don't want to do anything.

I would just stay with them and...

Yeah, that makes sense. So, what the heck else? There was another thing I wanted to throw in there.

It is kind of funny when you go... So I have a similar background to you. I was a piece of s*** and decided I... Yeah. Decided that I wanted to... I got a taste of what life was like on the other side. And I was like, this is way better than any of the s*** I thought I was having fun doing. And I pay my insurance now. I drove for years with no insurance, just did whatever. Like the same thing with you. You swipe the card until it stops working. And then you're like, oh, well, f***, guess there's no money in my bank account anymore. And now that I'm living on this other side of things, and then you just want it to play out like it's supposed to, because you're doing your part as a responsible person. And then...

I'm not making up things. I remember I used to call on my cell phone bill all the time when I was younger. But you guys, there's no way... I didn't text anybody. And they're like, well, no. Because texting used to be like a quarter. And you get a bill, it's like, yeah, 16,000, you know. And it's like... I just texted one night. I didn't know. Like, you know. But like, I used to lie all the time. Like, to try to be like, no, I didn't do this. I didn't do that. And then even I just dealt with some stuff with my security system. We did a big renovation on our house and we did an addition. And I called in. I'm like, hey, I just want to shut the security system off for like five months while we do this bill, because it's all getting cut out. Everything's getting cut out. And then I want to have you guys come back out. And if you shut us down, then you have to pay for a reinstallation. If you keep the service, we do it for free if you do a home renovation.

Dope.

It's only 70 bucks a month.

Let's do that.

So we do that and they won't come out. They won't cover it. They won't do anything. We fight, we fight, we fight. They finally come out. They put the cameras up. Cameras don't work. Dude, complete disaster. And I'm like, dude, I'm not looking, I'm not trying to get anything free. I'm willing to pay you. I just want it done. And I want it done right. And it was like four technicians later. And finally I took to social media and it just started tagging them because I knew they were, you could see, I would get targeted by their ads. And I just started, because nobody would give me the time of day. And then finally the regional manager reached out. He's like, I was given this case and told to make it right, whatever it looks like. We'll do all new Google Nest cameras on your house for free. I said, how about this? I'll pay you for the cameras. I'll buy them. I'm not looking to have the s*** done for free. I just want it all to work. And my wife informed me that the camera stopped working just recently, but they've been great ever since that. They did finally come out. But it's like, why did I have to fight for four, five months just to get my service that I pay for? And a lot of these companies, they get so big that all they're pushing is like the new sale, new sale, new sale. And they do not care what the wake of destruction looks like with the customers they have. And it's like, yeah, like you said, it's like, dude, I'm trying to do everything on the up and up. Like, dude, you gotta, you gotta auto pay. I didn't like, your auto pay was like 30% chance of going through when I was younger. And now I'm like, make sure there's money. You guys just take your money every month. All I'm asking for is the service that you sold me on, does what it's sold to do. Like that doesn't seem super out of line, but yeah.

Yeah.

So here we are with no Lambo here.

But at least you got this sweet b**** right here. Yeah.

This is for sale.

Yeah.

What would you sell it for?

To you? Will you take it tonight?

No, we're not quite there. I'm not shopping until about June this year.

After you. So I'm a car collector. So I'm a sucker for numbers, right? Of what is made. After you started giving me that spiel, only two made, it started to look more appetizing. Is it rusty?

I haven't been under it for a long time.

You can get under there right now. You want to squeeze under it?

I'm good. I think there's some water or oil dripping over there.

Oh, there's water. I washed this side. This side. The other side's not washed. That front grill assembly with the hood ornament, last time we looked, because obviously they made the silver spur. They just didn't make them in the limo from the factory. There was coach companies that did them, that did like 20 or 30 of them a year. But this was made in the factory. That front grill setup was over $3,000 on eBay.

Holy s***.

So if you broke it down, when we ordered, I ordered, we put new axles in it, because the axle seals are bad. But those rear axles, to go find those on eBay, were like 600 bucks a piece. So there's...

So it has an independent rear in it too?

It's got two axles back there.

Yeah, it's a...

I think it does move your place too.

Now, you two can negotiate off camera if you're actually considering this thing, but if somebody that's listening wanted to buy it...

So I have it listed for 8,000 bucks.

S***, really?

I paid 14. We've put... I mean, I've put... We actually have done a lot of... You've heard the exhaust. The exhaust is kind of non-existent. We used to have it piped out the side.

Yeah. Started on fire one time. It sounds like it comes right off the headers.

Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, that's... Yeah, that's what it's got going on.

I think he's checking it out, dude.

You need it. Oh, my God.

Dude, it smells like a 1982 car.

Do you imagine if you knew all the stories of what happened in this car?

Oh, my God.

You can start with mine.

I want to know who first owned it.

So there was a... Okay, so have you heard of... I think the show was called, like, Wild Wild Country.

Okay.

And it was about this guy who had built, like, basically a colony, like an off, like a colony of people.

Not like a David Koresh, Waco situation or anything or...

Dude, I didn't watch the whole thing, but he was a car collector.

Okay.

And he collected Rolls Royces, and he was like a prince or something. He had, like, he was like a billionaire. And there was someone had gone in and done a bunch of research, and they had said that it was between this and one car that was an 83 of the same thing. It was either this actual one that was in his documentary when they were showing the old video. This car may have been in his car collection at one point. And they were saying, if it was, it would have been tied to, like, some prints from another country or something. And I'm like, and then to me, I'm like, dude, I'm gonna get in, I'm gonna dig into this. And then I'm like, dude, I don't give a s***.

So you're telling me there's a chance.

Yes, so you're telling me there's a chance. But this guy had, he had multiple, like, collector Rolls Royces. And then I think he ended up in prison or murdered or something.

Okay.

They sold it off and, yeah.

17 more owners and here it is.

Yeah, and here it is. Yeah. Got buried in the back.

Should do a Carfax on it.

Yeah.

Carfax came around, what? Late 90s, I think? Is when it came into existence or something like that?

Yeah, but would they have older, can you Carfax an older car?

Yeah. If it went into service when Carfax was a thing, then it will start. It'll just all of a sudden come into play at some point in time.

Cause I have like, I have the original manual from it with, and actually if we look through that, that has, there's like documentation in there, paperwork. I got a big folder.

A lot of cars have that for like the first three months and then it just stops happening. Yeah.

Yeah. So, but at least you'd have like, some original information and then it's got like up there, I've got the champagne factory Rolls Royce Crystal goblets and stuff in the back that sit in there.

I saw the little ice bucket in there. Yeah.

And those have to be collectible. Yeah.

Those are, and that's why actually, so when I had sold it the first time, I kept that stuff because I'm like, I took a $6,000 hit when I sold it or something and bought it back and taken another hit, but I don't know, it just sits here.

Interesting.

Sure looks nice right now though, doesn't it?

Yeah.

It looks good from this side. I'm glad you watched this side.

Oh dude, I would have been embarrassed to have you guys sit in front of me. It was...

You should have seen some of the stuff that we sat in front of. There's that piece of s*** Viper the other day we were in front of. Yeah. Yeah. No, okay. $8,000 seems like a f*** it, why not sort of price.

That's what I thought. When I priced it at that and then...

And it runs, drives?

Yeah.

What's in it for an engine?

Dude, so this is back in the era, from what I've learned, a guy was explaining this to me, a Rolls Royce guy that is all obsessed with these things. And he said that these engines, it's like a 5.0 or a 6.9 liter or a 5.9 liter or something crazy, but it runs on like mineral oil. There's mineral oil and like all these weird points and hydraulics and all this because this was back in the era when they were trying to perfect their airplane engines, but their airplanes and he was telling me, and this may or may not be, so I'm sure someone that you've got will fact check this and then you can tell me. But he was saying that the with this engine, he says this engine, the planes kept crashing. So they put it into a car so that they could figure out the bugs and they'd rather have a car stop working than an airplane stop working. And I'm like, no way. And then he was explaining some of the systems that are in there, and they're very weird, like, you have to put mineral oil in it and through all the little, it's bizarre. But it's never, we just put new batteries in it again. So this is the first vehicle I think I've ever owned that I've replaced the batteries just because they're old, two times. So I bought it, we replaced them, and then I replaced them again, just like two weeks ago.

How many go in it?

Just two.

Okay.

Yeah. It's fricking sweet.

And remember kids, you can always LS swap.

That was our thought. We wanted to do a, we're going to lift it and like make it rowdy. And then I'm like, dude, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to dump 50 grand into it. And then I got a price. You see the one that went on Gumball? You see that Rolls Royce? Oh dude, you have to free your little, when you do your little clipper cutters, dude, you got to find that one. Go look at just the Gumball Rolls Royce. It's a Rolls Royce Limo.

Okay.

And he jacked it up, put like a Cummins swap in it or something. It's sick.

Is it the one that was in a Snowed In video or no? Maybe.

I wonder if it was.

No, I don't think that was a Rolls Royce. It's got like a, that one's a Lincoln. That's a Town Car. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah, no, this thing's got like a, it's like blacked up, like matte black. It's like, I, so I messaged that dude, the builder, and he got back to me, where I sent him pictures, like, dude, I'd love to. He said, you'd probably be looking like 200, 250. But then I looked at his build and I'm like, that's-

Worth it.

That's 100% worth it if you wanted to stay in that.

Custom ain't cheap.

No, especially good custom. Like this was, I mean, he went and gumball that's got it. It's got Dooley's decent, dude. It's insane.

Yeah.

It's insane. So cool. But here we are with this one.

So as we kind of start to wind down here, there's kind of, I always like to kind of go down this route as well. What is some advice you would give to someone that wants a Lambo or a car collection or, you know, the happy life with the family or whatever the case is. Cause we do have a lot of youngins on the show. Some guy actually reached out to me yesterday, also checkered past that he's kind of coming back from. What's some advice you would give to youngins?

Oh man, just, my biggest advice would be to quit letting, like don't go to social media, to...

Post about your horrible insurance experience?

Yeah, don't do that, just for legal purposes. But to, spending less time on social media, looking at what other people portray as what success is to you, this is the thing I got caught up in big time. Like all the guys I wanted to be like, and I'd go out and I'd pay all this money, and I'd get, I hired coaches, and I always was trying to like level up, level up, level up, level up. And I look in the last five years, like out of the 20 people that I was like, these dudes are like where I want to be, there's probably seven or eight of them that are in prison. And everything they were doing was high level fraud. And so, like when you look at what you see on social media and what you think is like what success looks like or what, and now if I could go, like looking back at all of it, like I love the cars, I love all of that. But dude, focusing on your health, obviously number one, that's something I got.

You've had a few scares.

Yeah, yep. So three years ago, I was diagnosed with blood cancer, which I still have, I still deal with it. But that was like a super huge eye opening, like, oh, all of this, all the money, all the anything can just be gone like that. So like prioritizing that, and then if you do want to have a family, if you're doing all that, like... If that's your thing. If that's your thing, yeah. For some people it's not, and that's super cool. And then it's a lot easier to do the car stuff if you don't have, you know, a wife and kids. Kids are the... Like my kids make my Lambo look like child's play when it comes to what they cost to, you know, to own and to raise.

We've heard stories on the show, it gets pricey.

Yeah, yeah, dude, so expensive, so expensive. But completely worth it. But I think one of the biggest things is right now is everybody's looking at social media to see what success looks like. And, you know, there is some... Like, you can use it as a tool to want to push to do more. But, you know, about 90% of what you see on social media success is complete b*******.

Who's someone on social media or someone you've met over the years that still upholds that standard for you?

Andy. Andy Purcell.

For sure.

Yeah, he's...

You got a lot of first form in here.

Yeah. I've been rocking with Andy since he first had which is crazy because, you know, AJ's Gallardo, that he had the superleggera.

Yeah. Which one?

The one that was...

Not the one that burned down.

Yes. And they rebuilt it.

Yeah.

I think it had been rebuilt once.

You're talking about AJ Maddow, right? Yeah. Yep. Okay.

So AJ owned Andy's first Gallardo.

Oh, really? Okay.

And it was here. And I think it was kind of, I don't know what, there was some stories of what happened with it. But I wanted to buy that car so bad just because I was like wanting to be able to just mob in the first form. Does this look familiar?

Yeah.

But dude, Andy's been, he's been a real one since I started following him. He was the first person that got me into thinking bigger and like making a vision board and making like really using my mind to like picture what is possible out into a space that was like completely impossible where I was at, which was a Lamborghini at the time. I mean, that was like having a Gallardo when I first talked about having one.

What was this roughly like what 2015, 16?

So I found, I found Andy in, I think right around then.

Yeah, because I was using MFCEO.

MFCEO, yep. And it was pretty early on. So when I went out to First Form, it was like a pretty small little event.

Okay.

At First Form and I became a Legionnaire. And like, so I was just pushing the products because I liked them. You know, I never made any money doing it. Like a lot of people have made.

Serious though.

Serious.

The affiliate game, you can make some serious money.

Yeah. And the way they had set it up, like it was genius because they actually trained you and like, you had to go to trainings, you had to go.

Interesting. Okay.

It was very, like your product knowledge had to be on point because they didn't want just anybody out there.

They were very strict. It's not a good representation.

Yeah.

Yep.

And so I went through that and like my biggest thing was like, I just want to meet Andy and dude, he's into Lambos. Well then, you know, he's not in the Lambos anymore because they did, they did him dirty and some stuff.

Oh really? Okay.

Yeah. Something happened. I don't know. I think he's going to explain it sometime. I do. I threw your, I pitched you in there.

We'll see if that ends up happening. I would love to get that dude on. That'd be a, because like, and I even put it in my little application, because he's like, you know, apply to have me on your podcast, which most of the time I'm like, whatever, but that would kind of be a personal feather in my cap just because 2020 and 2021, his influence is huge on my life. Now, granted, I don't listen to him as much nowadays. I've kind of, you're supposed to move on in life with mentors, not because the previous ones, man, but because I'm in a different season of my life right now. You know what I mean? Yeah. So more hard skills is what I'm working on right now. But back then, dude, like that, he is simultaneously the reason for all my success and also why I lost 20 grand on that rally too. So there's that too, right?

So I would say my, like I've always said that I told him to, and I first actually met him, like I would not have even thought big enough to want to work hard enough to get a Lambo, if I wouldn't have found his stuff. And really just, I'm like, dude, what's the worst that could happen? This dude's got a Lambo. This dude's like, I was like, felt relatable too, cause I'm like, he's not that much older than me. And he's like, he's just a b*****, and he drops F-bombs on his podcast. He doesn't care.

I never listened to anything like that in my life beforehand.

There wasn't anything. Dude, in 2015, there was like, I had never heard a podcast in my life. I jumped into so much trouble.

I started listening to them because of you, because of your stories.

Yeah, literally, I jumped into so much truck, and I'm like, dude, what are we, 100 listening to baseball? Like, yeah, I remember this. Yeah, doesn't anyone talk on the radio? And he said, no, dude, it's a podcast.

Yeah.

Makes you just going to listen to this guy's talk. And then he's like, and then your m************ dude. And I'm like, oh s***, this dude means business. What's this dude's story? And then I started following and I just started. And then I'm like, dude, if I, why don't I, I'm just going to pick one, I'm just going to use him. And I had just gotten, I quit drinking.

Yeah.

And then I quit drinking in 2013. And so I was trying to like get my life put back together. But I didn't know, I didn't have any like mentors on how to do that. There wasn't a book that I hadn't read any books, anything. And got in with following his stuff. And I'm like, I'm just going to do what he says to do. I'm just going to do everything. Started PowerList, started doing, just trying to become better and, you know, vision boards. And I would go to the Lamborghini and like, I'd go look at cars when I was in places, like actually go look and, you know, go sit down in them until they told you to get out. Like, really get in and like feel what it would feel like, which he told me, which he always talked about doing. And it's crazy, like my first vision board I ever made has a white, has a white Gallardo on it. And it's like, and I kept, I actually just was throwing away all that stuff because we've redone everything. And that vision board has still kind of made all the shifts. And then it, I took all the stuff off it and like kept the couple of things that, you know, were cool, that seemed important on it. And, but yeah, I mean, it completely changed the trajectory of my life, was finding someone and just using him as a mentor for the free content he gave out.

Yeah, you had to realize how much gold that gave out for years. Yeah, he was number one for the longest time for a reason.

Yep. And then he switched, you know, pre-election. He saw the writing on the wall, what was going on. And then he switched it all up.

It's been since about 22, he started getting pretty heavy on that stuff.

Yep.

And for me, and it's not that I'm against any of that. For me, it's, there's outside of, you know, voting and whatever the heck else. For me, it was a big thing of, I want to focus on what's on my, in my control. So that's why I switched more to like the Alex Hormozis and stuff, like hard skills, right? So I was like, all right, I'm not getting as much value at the moment for this stage of my life. That's when I started switching to some of these other guys.

And now the MFCEO practice is coming back. Now the election is done.

Yeah, I heard about that. I'm excited for that.

So it's pretty genius when you look back and look at what he did.

How he did it, yeah.

As far as, because I was kind of like really like it, and it was real American freedom. It's not real Andy, it's real American freedom. And literally he shifted his whole thing and like to the size of where like could have played an actual role in our election. Like, so think of to have that kind of power and then that kind of brain capacity to, like the dude's a genius. I don't, it stresses me out to think about all that stuff. And I just read a quote this morning that was like, it's not a, and I'm gonna completely botch this, but I think you get, I don't remember it at all. Anyway, it was saying, what we have is we have a, we have too much information with no impl, implication? Implication, yeah. So it's, and you think about that, and I'm like, dude, that's what I fall into. I could go sit and scroll, and I've gotten, and I'll go on hiatuses. I went, I think, I tried to do 48 hours one time with no social media, and I logged back in like six and a half or seven weeks later, and it was incredible. It was so sweet.

I've been thinking about doing that. As much as he likes to think I'm not on social media.

I was like, you don't even have a phone.

I tried to, as the problem is, is that's where my income is. Yeah, so it's tricky. The nice thing is, is when you stop giving a f***, it's really easy.

Yeah. And so for me, I, but my thing is I just spend, and I get, and I go through little waves, little phases. But again, dude, it messes with your mental, because you feel like, like I always feel like I'm so far behind everybody else. And it's like, dude, just focus on what's right in front of you and what you're doing and the steps you need to take each day. And like quit looking at this. And now should you have big goals and should you have big dreams and all that stuff? Yes, of course. But like, if you focus on what you have right in front of you and like getting like, putting just steps forward every single day, even little tiny things, like that adds up. And that turns into like real big things. In a problem with socials, you get on there and you feel like you're so far behind that you're like meh. And you just waste away hours scrolling. And then you don't learn really anything. And then you feel like you're way behind and feel like your content sucks. And you know, because you see other people.

Oh, 100 percent, dude. Like even looking at like my gear here, like it's like I got three different cameras here. Like to the right person to be like, oh man, this is like a small ordeal. But at the same time, it's like I think people are just getting their head too much. Like I tell this to Adam all the time because I'm teaching him how to do his own podcast and all that stuff. And he's been having a ton of success. I'm like, man, we'll get to that. But you're really over. You got to get the basics first, man.

And this is with business too. Like this is what I talked about a lot. I had a coaching group for a little while. And then, I don't know, I was kind of I even put it down to where it was just free because I just wanted to actually help people. And then like nobody would get on to the live calls and they'd be, oh, dude, sorry. I really need your help. I wanted to ask you a question about something. I'm like, dude, it's literally, it's free. It doesn't cost you any money. Get on the live call. You can ask anything you want. Don't hit me up at two in the morning. You know what I mean? Like it just got to where I'm like, dude, this ain't my space. I'd rather go help people that can't help me back like with addicts and stuff like that. Like that's my jam. But it's just that like the, I don't know, just, I don't know. So many, I got off track here now, but.

No, yeah, I contributed, don't worry.

It was, yeah, just thinking of the, just so many people want, they want everything done for them, and they want, but they're not willing, they don't put in f****** the work. They don't put in any of the work. And they just want it to just magically happen.

You want to know when things got really good for me? When I stopped relying on the easy AI tools, for example, like this is just one example of many. When I started focusing on quality, in addition to quantity, that's when s*** really took off.

Yeah. And what have you found? What is your main, cause obviously I've watched, I see your stuff on, I mean, I see your stuff all over the place, cause I'm, you're in my-

That was my goal, by the way, be everywhere all the time.

Yeah, you're in my algorithm.

Being Wheeler's algorithm. Yeah.

What has been your like number one, like where is your most money made, I guess would be-

Oh, a hundred percent shorts right now. And I expect that to switch over time.

Just YouTube shorts?

YouTube, Facebook. And I'm actually pushing TikTok again, cause they have a pretty sweet program, cause they lost a lot of people a few months ago. Yep. So they're pushing that heavy. But yeah, Facebook and YouTube, like short form. And I completely expect that to switch the other way. And also particularly in the sponsor realm, as this continues to grow. Cause again, listen, this is all passion driven, right? Like I could easily go get a, well, I shouldn't say easily, not in this economy, but I could have a day job. Yeah. Yep. But I really enjoy doing this. And I don't know what it is, man. Like when I was 13 and I got my first laptop and started editing and all that stuff, like I always tell people I've been doing this a decade. And it's just kind of cool that I found two passions that kind of mixed and it kind of worked out. But yeah, it's like, it's definitely a grind. But yeah, especially the short form. And the thing is, is like people really do enjoy that too.

Yeah, and so when you go and put those together, you just go and, because you'll put a whole one, like a long format on YouTube as well.

This will drop on Wednesday. The highlights will drop three or four weeks from now. Not by design, but because I'm so far behind and I'm lazy.

Yeah. So how do you, in this, I mean, you don't have to put this stuff in or whatever. So do you take in like just, you have your whole files for the one, and then when you go put stuff into short form to start editing it, and when you're putting them over top, I mean, you got to go and find all the graphics and I mean like.

Yeah, like I won't do that for the full episode. This would never air then.

Right, right, but I'm saying like when you go to the short form, the short stuff, and like, I mean, that's a.

That's where all that research he was telling you about.

Dude, that's a pain in the a**.

Well, especially when we have guys like Sam Barros on episode 110, or is it 111? No, 110. Mears is 111. When you're talking about guys that are the head of R&D for a tier one injector company, most people don't even know what tier one is, that's OEM level. When you have those guys on and they're giving information, it's kind of like magic for some people, like they don't comprehend it, like in the comments section, you're like, oh, this guy's full of s***. Well, actually, he just knows too much. So that's why I started doing research to back up these things.

We spent six hours getting a tour of their facility before we started that podcast. I learned s*** about injectors that will never leave my brain, but is way more than I ever needed.

But point being though, it's like I can put together a highlight if I'm really trying to burn through one in maybe 30 minutes, and this is a 30 second highlight, but I've spent two, three, four hours on some before too, because again, I want to put in that little extra love or whatever, right? So that's where I can buy... I shouldn't say this. There's guys that will throw money at a problem, and that's kind of what I've been doing with these microphone setups, unfortunately.

We'll see how that pans out. You're our guinea pig for this one.

This episode might not air. It might be an issue.

We might do this again.

I just watched a YouTube video. I don't remember whose it was. Someone local, maybe Trey Moa?

Yeah.

I think he might have put one up. That was, and like right at the beginning, it says, sorry, my audio jack was loose or something for the whole video. So it's, I don't know, something. And then I didn't.

Yeah, we might have an issue on this intro. We'll see how it goes.

Yeah.

The first two minutes. That's why I was f****** on my phone at the beginning, because I don't touch my phone during episodes. But my point is though, it's like, you can, I had to shoestring this thing from the beginning. Right? Once my unemployment ran out, once I was s***-canned and I did not downscale my living style for a while. Like I did not realize like, oh s***, I should probably not be spending this much on eating out. That's when I started cooking again and spending less. Like that's why you have, there's three different cameras there.

Yeah.

That'll all be succinct at one point. But here's the key thing. It does the job.

Yeah.

People always want, and again, this is starting to take a turn from automotive, but people always want the new iPhone, you know, the new MacBook and this and that. What's the reason behind your choices, dude? Like you had a very obvious reason for the Lambo, right? Obviously, you want a f****** Lambo, but you also try to make it more than just a car.

Right.

Right. So I don't know.

And that's what it turned into. And that was when I got lost earlier, I remembered right after I was like, I lost train of thought, but that was one of the things where I talked about coaching a lot was these guys would come in. I'm like, all right, so what are you doing right now? Like, what do you mean? Well, I've been in business. I've had my business for like three and a half, four months. I just can't get a logo locked in. I'm like, you're not making money? Well, no, because do my insurances. I'm like, just f*** insurance. F*** all of it. And obviously this is, that's bad advice, but you have to go make money. Go make money. Who can, do throw it into fiber. Well, I want a really nice logo because I'm going to do all these shirts. Like, you're not going to do shirts until you have money. You have to go make money. So work with what you have until you have enough to get the nicer stuff. And then you're going to be pissed when you, like, I've done this, I mean, I got all the way to the point of buying a damn t-shirt shop because I wanted my merch game on point. And now I've got, I have 12 bins full of merch that I've paid for through my own t-shirt shop that lost me a ton of money. Like, all because I was, like, trying to make something perfect. I'm like, who gives a s***? I don't need, you know, you don't need, like, you're saying, like, dude, this, nobody else is going to know. Nobody else would know you had three different cameras.

Well, the other thing is, like, did you ever watch Joe Rogan's 51st episode? Answers f****** no. Nobody goes that far back. Who cares what it was at the beginning? Yeah.

And if you're putting out good content, like, that's the part to matter. So this was my big thing. Remember when I, I think I've talked to you about this, but I hired Hooman when I was, like, dead set that I was going to grow my YouTube to a hundred thousand subscribers. I was like, I don't care what it takes. I don't care how much money. I'll keep making more money just so I can do YouTube because I love it. It's a really bad way to keep liking anything, to set that kind of goal and just be like, I'm gonna do anything, because then it turns into a job. Yeah. And so I hired Hooman to go do a channel audit and go through my stuff. First thing, he's like, all right, he's like, here's what you gotta do. He's like, I gotta get rid of all your camera gear. You gotta buy a Sony a7 III, and then it just came out. He's like, you gotta buy this lens, this lens, this lens, this for this, this for this, get this editing. And I'm like, all right, I'm all in, baby. So I go and spend, I don't know, six, $7,000. I'm like, all right, I did all that. And then I go to do my first video. And he's like, all right, I'm gonna send you over the deck. Like, here's what you need to do. And it's like, hire an actor, have him smash your windshield of your car, do this at a light. And I'm like, oh, s***, dude, no, I'm not having him, no, what do you mean? That's fake. Like, have you not seen my channel? It's just me, it's just a vlog. Like, it's real. It's like, oh, you're never gonna go viral, being real. Because if you wanna make money, here's how you gotta do it. And I'm like, oh, and he's like, quality is everything, full production value, all these things. And you know, now he's not even, he has 10 million subs and he's off YouTube now. Doesn't do it at all now. And then it was like, oh, so I did all those things and it made it so stressful to try to film anything that I filmed nothing.

Because there would be a lot of efforts into it. Yeah.

And then like, if you ever tried holding an A7 III with like this super wide angle lens with this thing and I'm inside a car and it's like, it's not easy.

Yeah, dude.

And it's $6,000 or $5,000 worth of stuff. Yeah. And I'm trying to hang out the window for a rally. And then my video is garbage because I didn't know how to use any of the settings. And I'm like, dude, this is sold everything. Went back to my little Canon M50s and still never.

Dude, Cletus does it on an iPhone from what I've heard or seen.

Whistle & Diesel still does parts of his on iPhones and he's... If you have good content, it's going to... And it's crazy, I did some stuff, because we got into winter camping this year, and we were out, and I'm like, I like filming this stuff, I don't care. Because I was so worried about changing things on my channel. And then I'm like, dude, who cares? I got like 23 people watching this s***. Who gives a s***? I'm gonna do this stuff I like, and then if they want to watch... And I had some of those videos, and I looked through the analytics on them, and they were like, my vidIQ thing was popping up telling me, this is the best video you've ever put out. What are you talking about? And I got 6,000 views on a 43-minute video, and the average watch time was like 17 or 19 minutes.

And I'm like, what?

I'm talking about a f****** heater in an ice shack. This is boring as balls. I was embarrassed editing it, and I went longer format, and I had more watch time than any of my other videos. And I'm like, dude, this is... But that authenticity, and then just putting out good... And it doesn't have to be crazy quality, you know, if it's good content. Obviously, it's got to be decent, but...

It's got to be... My biggest thing was always audio. So Terry, who had the 458, you're familiar with Terry, he always pushed audio on me. And he probably doesn't even remember pushing it on me. But he's like, yeah, man, like a video can be a**. This is a podcast. People are listening.

Yeah. Audio is a big deal. Even that's what I've noticed in like, I watch a lot of the Overland stuff.

Yeah.

And like, I will get, I'll end up an hour into a video and the bastard is cooking in it. I don't care about cooking. I don't cook here. I don't know how to cook. My wife is not great at cooking. We're not into this whole cooking thing. We try, we feed our kids, and we don't want to eat garbage s*** food. So we have to cook something. And I'm watching this guy make this homemade thing. And it's because the audio is so good and you're just in the fire.

Oh, yeah.

And it's interesting. You know, I sat and just watched an hour of this guy's video. And, but then you look and I'm like, oh, that's why he's got 200,000 views on this video.

Yeah. Because the effort. Yep.

And the audio is there. And so there is, I mean, there's obviously there's tears, but if you're-

There's levels to it. Yeah.

Put out good content for you. Yeah. Audios.

Well, and I try, who was I talking to? Adam again, on the way here today, I was like, talking about the early, like changing audiences, right? He's like, oh man, I don't even know. Like, what does your audience prefer or whatever? I'm like, Adam, Cletus McFarlane is 120 times bigger than me. If I get to even a fraction of that size, my audience is probably going to change a little.

Right.

You haven't found your audience yet.

Right.

He has 4 million subs, I have 50,000. You haven't found your people yet. So that's kind of my-

It's pretty sweet to watch yours grow. To see-

It's been fun. Yeah. This is a slow month. Slow month. And it was still like, I think 2,000 or 3,000 subs.

Dude, we were getting out-

We were out a lot.

We- Detroit is a treasure trove of automotive stuff. Just with the OEs and the people that make the stuff for the OEs. And just as the guest game started to pick up and getting some of these hotspots, where we've been driving out, flying out to places and- Yeah.

We're doing this drag and drive in a couple weeks. And then we're going to go to North Carolina for bragging rights in May.

So we just came back from Texas 2K. I just drove my camper 2,000 miles down there, brought my whole family and well, my kids anyway. My in-laws were in Galveston. I dropped them, half the kids off with them. And my daughter loves race car s***. So she stayed with us. It was so sweet, dude. I was going to ask you, are your kids like, are they into this? Are they involved?

My daughter is into anything I'm doing. Yeah. Like, I don't know if my son really even cares what I do at all. As long as I take him to Chipotle every once in a while. He's just kind of-

Have you tried a new honey chicken, by the way?

No, I saw it the other day and the kid that got it in front of me got three scoops of it and it was gone. So I was like, all right, I'm cool.

It's really good. I recommend it.

But it's got a kick, right?

A little bit of kick. Listen, I used to eat habanero every day.

Have you eat hot spices? It's got a kick.

It's not that bad.

I might try it.

Anyway, you guys can send each other Yelp reviews for restaurants.

Oh, 100%.

Yeah, I don't know. The whole family is pretty, they're really into it. My wife's got a car and they'll all come and stay at the track with me.

That's sweet. Your wife's always been, right? Hasn't she always been?

Yeah, the rally I went with you, that was her car we took, the green one. The one where I had to get a tire thing from you and you had to dig through your frunk.

Yeah, I would say that's what I remembered. And I'm like, I thought, I swear that your wife was into it too. And yeah, that's been, so like, as I've looked at, so with the big camper truck thing, and that thing, when you see it in real life, I mean, we had that air conditioner on the floor back there, underneath that shelf is literally because the top of the truck, when this door is up, the top of the truck touches everything.

It's huge.

It's massive. And it's on 43 inch tires. And it makes them look like normal tires.

Is that for sale too then or no?

It was. We're rebuilding the entire thing right now. So it's gonna be like, it's gonna be sweet. But that was my goal. It's like, I'm trying to get things that my whole family, cause like with the Lambo is fun. I love doing that stuff.

There's only two seats though.

There's only two seats. The rallying, definitely like going forward. We still, I still want to rally some, but man, it just, you know, the whole thing with Larry.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That kind of shifted things. And there was a lot of times on like West, where my wife and I would get places. We'd look at each other and we're like, whoo, we're the only kids that those, or we're the only parents that those two kids have. And we're both in this car.

Yeah.

We don't need to go that fast.

Yeah.

When a buck 30 becomes the baseline.

Yeah.

Where you like slow way down, you like go to put your arm up the window, like put your window down and your window still won't go down because it won't go down if you're going, I think, over like 120 or something.

Interesting.

Yeah.

And you like go to hit it down. What the hell is going on with this thing?

We're still doing 120.

Oh, we're flying. Yeah. So there's that. I don't know if that's just growing up or what it is.

It's a combination of things. I've seen a lot of people transition. Is that the word we want to use nowadays?

A lot of people use that word.

The rally game has changed a lot.

We might do a friends ordeal here later, just here to like tail or something, but we'll see. We've been saying that for the last two years. It's just that we're already on the road once a month at the moment. So it's hard to throw in another trip unless we're doing podcasts.

Because how much are you guys filming right now? And are you on every episode?

Yeah, he's on every episode.

You're everyone, right?

He's been since episode 55.

As much as he likes to think that I do nothing but sit here as a pretty face, I am pretty involved on the backend. I don't do any of the editing or anything like that, but we do, Harris and I are talking two or three times a week. Like, there's a lot going on.

And how often are you filming? What do you guys, what do you put in?

It's kind of sweet when we're able to travel to a place and just do four episodes and then I'm set for the month. And then, because like I like having a backlog because it allows me to plan more. It gives me more of a horizon. So that's why like Texas 2K, we didn't record anything down there. But now it's like we're getting a little bit of a backlog and then we do a couple of locals in between. So that's kind of the goal right now is like, you know, travel somewhere for four days, do four or five episodes, come back, do a few locals. So it's not as chaotic as it was like, let's say a year ago, we're trying to be like, all right, who's our guest for tomorrow? Oh, we don't have one yet, you know?

Yeah, we should have done a couple when we went to Texas 2K, and we didn't. We were partially held hostage. It was a whole thing.

Yeah, that's a whole thing. But, freak, I had another question there.

I love hostage situations.

Yeah.

Oh, word?

We had a vehicle situation lined up that didn't pan out, and so we were kind of stuck at the track most of the time.

We were actually.

Unless I wanted to take my 32-foot RV out and about town, you know?

That would have been fun to see at the street races. Yeah. But shoot, man, anything else we want to touch on before we pop the usual three? We're coming up on three hours, by the way.

I figured. I haven't eaten anything since this morning, so I'm.

Dude, I'm so glad I grabbed that because I was like, no, I'll eat when I come back.

Yeah.

I was starving watching you eat that thing. I was like, I just want to bite.

His eyes got really big. He's like.

I'm sure I said something, dude. I was like, no.

I saw you drop a piece of lettuce. I'll get it later.

Well, sweet, dude. Before I have you pop the usual three, what are you most proud of?

Oh, I would have to say my relationship with my wife and my family. For sure.

Yeah.

With my wife. I mean, that part with my kids is important, but like holding it together for 15 years with the same person and like actually liking her still. And I think she thinks I'm kind of cool. I still live inside, so that's sweet.

I just had 15 years too.

Did you?

Yeah. With the same wife.

Yeah. My first wife, yeah. It's a big deal nowadays. And I watch a lot of these guys that go online and they're pitching like marriage s***. And they're like, you know, come join our thing and pay 4,900 bucks to spend the weekend with us. And I'm like, y'all got married like two weeks ago. What do you mean? What are you teaching us? Like you haven't even been through s***.

Right. Yeah.

She said, yes, every time you've asked so far, don't tell me you don't tell me how you're going to teach you how to have a long term marriage. Like, yeah. So yeah, I would say like out of everything, now would doubt for sure.

Yeah. Somewhat similar. I highly suggest everybody go watch the episode on flagrant that they just did with a divorce attorney. It's the funniest podcast I've listened to in a long time. I highly recommend it.

Okay. Yeah.

It's freaking hilarious. On that note, do you want to pop the usual three?

Yeah. Okay. So at the end of every episode, we like to ask our guests to pick three cars. We need, you can't do that to me, you're throwing me off over there. I need a show car, a daily driver, and a track car.

That's right.

You have an unlimited budget, you can swap whatever, you can put this thing on, jack it way up, if that's your thing, LS swap it.

Oh, man. You know, I thought about this, like when we first talked, cause I'm like, oh, I'm gonna have to, I gotta do some thinking. And I didn't think about it.

It's tough when it's on the spot too.

Yeah, when it's on the spot. So I would say, okay, so it was a daily, a track and a show car. Yep. So for a show car, I would say it would have to probably be like a Peer Sport, something like that. Something that just catches all of the attention when you go in. I would say. What color? Probably, it probably would have to be like a raw carbon, like a real, just a, just a, Rock carbon?

So just black rock carbon or what?

Yeah, like just the straight, like Grady's, but the raw, not the, not glossy.

All the weave is straight too.

Yeah, yeah.

If he listens, he's gonna be so mad.

I don't even care if in here is like, you can feel the s*** inside the car.

He doesn't have to wash it. Yeah.

Get that Andrew Tate spec.

I would say a track car, it would have to just be like, I would just love to get into like an actual real cup car. Like having a GT, what is the, the GT3, like just a straight up.

Like a Porsche or a Huracan or?

Yeah, yeah. Okay.

You ever thought about doing some track stuff? Like a lot of us rally guys, well, I don't say us rally guys. I know you crown guys are a special breed, but have you ever thought about graduating into some track stuff?

I've been on the track a few times and I wasn't, I don't know. It was fun, but it wasn't something that I'm like, oh, this is the best day of my life.

Oh, I absolutely love it.

Yeah. See, I wasn't, I don't know. I guess when I'm out there, I had some video from the last one that I did. And if you watch that video, I wouldn't share it anywhere because I'm by myself in the car and I kind of, and dude, I was, and it was like, we did lead follow, we did that whole thing, and then we went out into groups where we actually got to go on our own. And like the first ones are, I'm on my own. And I had no idea. I'm like going through to look at the videos, to put stuff in my edit. And I'm like, just scream it. Like a little kid for the first time ever seeing, like, I don't know, like amusement park or something. So I guess I did, I guess I did like it more than I thought. But also the thought of like, what I want to go and track would be, you know, like, I don't know, like buying one of those Huracans, a Super Trofeo or something. And then it's like, well, then you get into, like the budget you have to have to do it at that level.

Oh, it gets really up there.

It gets really up there. Like I went out and I got to, I went with Shawn and was hanging with like Burton Lumber and their whole race team. And like they crashed two cars and with fees and with everything.

Oh, that's right. This is standard.

It's like an $800,000 weekend, which isn't terrible. I'm like, you're just at Road America. Like, how did you, and then watching the caliber of what those guys, and then watching them in car stuff. John was showing me and I was like, oh, I don't, I don't have that. I'm not, y'all's balls.

Well, it doesn't get that crazy either though.

Balls must be just massive because they're not like, I'm breaking like 400 feet before they've even, they're still on the gas. And I'm like, I don't have that. My brain doesn't work like that. I think it'd be fun to have like a nice little.

Miata.

Yeah. Something like that. Good power and actually set up for that. I think that would be fun. But I'm not a huge fan of like the, you know.

That's why there's classes.

You don't have to go balls to the wall, man.

I mean, every time I'm on a-

I said balls, paws, the wall.

Every time you go. But when you're at the track though, I mean, once you get out there, it's like.

Yeah, I know.

You do want to.

Okay.

So, yeah. So that's why I would, and then once they are a daily.

So you're locking in GT3 Cup car?

Yeah, I think so. Otherwise, like a Super Trofeo. Otherwise, it-

Now you have to pick one.

I would have to, I mean, having a Lambo, I would have to stick with like the Super Trofeo.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Again, full carbon.

Sure.

You know, they come up all the time on Marketplace.

Oh, they do.

Drives me nuts.

Yeah.

I need one. And then a daily.

Yeah.

Oh, like a daily daily? Or just like a-

These are the only three cars you can have.

Yeah. So we have people that are always like, well, what about a winter daily?

We're not-

No, shut up. One daily.

Just a daily.

Oh.

Honestly, it would probably just be just a, like one of the Mansory, like an SVJ. I know you can get up into the crazier.

Not a Mansory though. Please not a Mansory.

I would do Mansory. I don't care. The-

God.

So the one from SEMA wasn't SVJ.

Okay.

Do you remember the Rowdy, the bomber one? That the carbon pattern had like the bomber jet thing in it, in the carbon pattern. Maybe.

It was like goldish, like Kevlar looking or no?

Kind of Kevlar looking. I'd have to find, I've got pictures of it.

Okay.

It was from SEMA, what, like four years ago or something, five years ago.

I think I know what you're talking about. That wasn't a Mansory though, was it?

No, but it was, I don't remember who made, it might've been a Mansory.

Okay.

I don't remember who made it. Who's the other?

Pull it up, pull it up. Let's see, see if we can pull it up real quick.

I won't be able to find the pictures.

That's fine.

100,000 pictures, but let me-

I'll just say Google SEMA Aventador.

SEMA Carbon. And it actually might not even be as cool as I remember.

That's usually how it goes.

You know what I mean?

Yeah. Yeah, because Strads is pretty cool too.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think it was pretty sweet. Either way, let's log that in.

Yeah.

Whatever that car is.

Yeah.

And hopefully it's not a Mansory.

It'd be something right in there. Yeah. But it'd be like SPJ.

Okay.

I don't need. I don't even know what it is.

That was life changing when I wrote in Randy's.

The SPJ? Yeah.

Four hours in the Smokies. Oh. That was on Crown. It's actually a little fun story. I actually got a whole thing on this. I literally said, what's the worst that can happen? They'll say no. And I do.

I remember hearing this.

Yeah. Yeah. That was one of those like up until that point, I was like, yeah, I'm just going to work a normal day job, blah, blah, blah. You know, we're just going to get by. It's all good. Play video games or whatever at that point in my life. And I got an ad. I'm like, I got to have this.

Yeah.

And then I got around, like a few years later, I got around to Twin Turbo Viper stuff. I'm like, I need this.

Yeah.

And now I had to do this podcast and now I want everything.

Yeah.

Now it's like probably gotten way worse.

Oh yeah. Every episode, like me and Dan are inquiring like, all right, how do we get into this?

Yeah.

But yeah.

Isn't it wild to see what people do to make like a lot of money?

Yeah.

You think a lot of car guys, they aren't necessarily in the car industry.

Yes.

But here in roofing.

Yeah.

Yeah. Wheeler construction.

Yeah.

Yeah. But yeah, anyways, that's a whole tangent on itself. But on that note, man, where can people find you?

Instagram, Lambo, dad, Lambo underscore dad or 2Ds.

Yeah.

We still have YouTube and we put stuff up. Occasionally we'll jump back on and we'll put three episodes up in a row and feel like YouTubers again. And then we won't put anything for a while. And so, but that's just Lambo fam.

Okay.

And then, yeah, just Ryan Wheeler on Facebook.

Sweet. And if you're doing commercial stuff, you want to give that plug real quick too?

What do you mean?

Your commercial, real quick?

Oh, for construction.

Yeah.

It's Wheeler Construction.

Do you want to shout that out too?

Yeah.

We're in Hudson, Wisconsin. And we do the whole Twin Cities Metro.

Sure.

Pretty much anywhere. We got a guy, actually a car guy who reached out. He's in New York and he can't get someone to do. He's got some super crazy thing. He said, I'll fly you out, whatever it takes. Okay. And I'm like, really? He's like, yeah, I do jet share stuff. That's what I do. Oh, I've never been flown to a commercial roof job in a jet, but we would. We will do that.

I'll take it. Yeah.

Whatever you need. So.

Well, sweet. Dan?

You can find us at Gunna Garage or just Dan Deckard. It's been growing more than my actual page. So, I guess.

You have to talk to your social media manager. Yeah. Well, sweet. As for me, you guys found it this far. Ryan, thanks for coming on. I'm glad we made this finally happen, man. Three years in the making.

Let me know when you're ready to purchase this and get it ready to go.

Dan, thanks for existing and we'll see you all next time.