142. Mustang GTD Road Trip, Superformance GT40, and Good Times w/ VinGiggs and Miller Coakley

When we get the GTD, we're planning a 6,000 mile US tour in the car, just to share it with the community. The next year, in my other GT40, I had a Mark 1, it was a dark gray, and I did 2,700 miles in six days in that GT40.

That was sick.

Hello ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Minnoxide podcast. I'm your host, Harris, AKA Minnoxide, man of many automotive aspirations, and I'm here with my Ford loving co-host, Dan.

Feeling right at home now.

You know, for once, you're not getting stared at yesterday. You're getting stared down by Porsche's RX7. I feel at home now. I do. Yeah, and your Pick 3 is back here too.

It is.

That kind of works out.

I mean, it's not the diesel one, but that's good enough.

Yeah, yeah, fair enough. And today we are here with Vinny Gigilo. This is the part where I say, nailed it. And then, and then Miller Coakley. A great way of describing you guys is just pure on car enthusiasts, right? Yeah. And honestly, I'm just going to let you introduce yourself. I'll start with you and then we'll just kind of go from there.

Sounds good. So I'm Vinny Vingiggs, huge car enthusiast. I don't know how I became a Ford guy, but I did many years ago. It's actually due to that car right there.

You like finer things.

I love finer things in life. Yeah. So I'm real estate developer in the North Carolina area. But I tend on social media, you'll find me talking mostly about cars and I go, I rally guy, I've done some track stuff, but generally I just love to take a day and head to the Blue Ridge Mountains, we're about an hour from there and just go rip. So that's pretty much the long and short of it. Yeah.

How about you?

So I'm Miller. I am an automotive photographer. I guess that's the base of it. I also do social media managing. I do, gosh, I mean, kind of a jack of all trades media wise and stuff like that, photography, social media, consulting, and that kind of stuff. I've been doing YouTube for about seven and a half, eight years, and so just been doing that. So from anything social media, I kind of tried to do my best hand at. So do that, and then me and Vinny met, and we're kind of little brothers now.

Pretty much, yeah, from another mother.

Yeah, well, just so the audience knows, like we were talking about, how long is it? Like an hour and a half? Yeah, almost two hours before we get to record. So like you guys just got some stories, man. Like you guys travel the country doing some cool stuff. I mean, locally especially. So why don't you go ahead and tell us a little bit about how you got into Ford's? How you landed on the cars you have today? Something about your collection and we'll just kind of see where that takes us.

So I've had everything from Lamborghinis to Porsches to muscle cars to, I mean, you name it. That's kind of... And I didn't come from anything. So this is all self-built.

And yes, what's your story there? Actually, let's go further back.

So back when I was five, no, literally back when I was five, I wanted to be an airline pilot. That was my dream. And I lived in Southern California. I lived in a town called Playa del Rey, which is actually my hometown is El Segundo, but the planes used to fly over. So I told my mom, I want to be a pilot. So eventually I did that. At 23, I was hired with Northwest Airlines Regional Carrier and I flew a CRJ 200. And I was drowning in debt and had no money. And I was like, and one of my training captains gave me the book, Rich Dad Poor Dad. And he's like, here, read this. It was in the Minneapolis airport. In fact, it was a bookstore there. And so about a week after I read that book, I flew back to LA where I was living. So I would actually live in Detroit, Michigan. That was my base for the airline. And then I'd fly home for 24 hours just to see my family. And then I'd go back to work. I flew home one day and I just called the airline and I said, I quit. Where are my assembly uniforms? I had been with them for about six months. Wow. Yeah.

Okay. What was the motive behind that though?

Reading the book Rich Dad Poor Dad.

Really? Okay.

Yeah. Because my student loan payment was $850 a month.

Okay.

I was making $1277 a month flying a jet for the airline.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah. It averaged out to about $3.54 an hour.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

So I know that we're going to talk cars, but that was kind of the origin. It was between that and I was in the DC airport, flying a deadhead back to Detroit. This was right before I quit. I boarded a plane in uniform and finished my flight, and I'm going back to Detroit, Michigan. And the old gray haired captain walks down the aisle. I'm the only one sitting there and he's like, hey, how old are you? He was like 23 and he's like, get out. I was like, you want me to get off the plane? He's like, no, no, no, no. He's like, get out of the airline industry. He's like, it's going downhill. He's like, go figure out a way to make a lot of money and pay me to fly you around. And so between that, reading Richard Porter, I was like, this is like an omen. So yeah.

So then where do you go from there then?

By the way, before that, I did serve in the army. I was in the infantry. So I did get some VA money from my deployment and stuff to use for that. So anyway, I've got a long history of things I've done leading up to what I'm doing today.

But it's hard to sell a whole however many years in 20 minutes.

Yeah. So I ended up getting into commercial real estate finance. I worked for a company for about six months, just working in a back room learning the business, and then eventually got hired on with another company as like a grasshopper to a top producer. Long story short, ended up becoming his business partner, moved to North Carolina, still ran my LA business, and then when I got here, I was like, wow, everybody wants to do business with me here, because I have a specialty in commercial real estate. Met my business partner and now we build big multi-family mixed use, all urban infill, I don't like tearing down trees, and then we also do development in Turks and Caicos.

Okay.

So.

Okay. So then, and again, this is just high level stuff, but then how do you end up, what was, did you have an ambition to get into cars? Like some guys were like, that's the car line, that's where the hustle comes from, or what was your main, I guess, ambition in life? Ironman.

Ironman. I told you this. The R8.

Friggin R8s.

This is my favorite story of his, is the R8. Yeah, I wanted, I just was obsessed with the R8, couldn't afford one, saw one in my hometown one time, my jaw hit the floor right when they first came out. So I did buy an E92 M3 before the R8, because that was more affordable to me. But what I would do is every year I would set a goal to build my business more so that I could buy a car. And then, so when I bought my R8, the way I bought it was we were coming out of the downturn in the economy, finally started doing more business, was starting to make a little bit of money, had about 45 grand saved up. And one of my clients came in and said, hey, you need to go buy a condo in Las Vegas. I was like, what do you mean? She's like, he's like, here's my, by the way, this leads to the car. So that's what I'm telling you. He goes, here's my agent's contact info. Call her right now while I'm standing here. Go out there and buy your first place. It's like, OK, so I called her. The next day I drove out, we made 12 offers on condos, bought one all cash. They had originally sold for like 250,000 at the peak, and I bought my first one for 45 grand, which was exactly how much I saved up.

After the downturn, right?

After the downturn. Used this little, I don't have it in my pocket now, but I used that little phone in my pocket with YouTube, figure out how to fix up the place, and used credit cards to like buy all the supplies to like fix the place. Rented it for 8.50 a month. And I was like, oh cool, well I just created a revenue stream, that can pay for my R8. By the way, don't do that when you're starting out. Eventually, that's how I, so my goal that year was I'm gonna buy a couple more assets, I'm gonna figure out how, even if I have to use friends and family to put up money or whatever, which none of them did, because I hadn't done this before. But eventually had enough properties where my properties bought my R8.

Interesting, okay. So again, this is primarily an automotive podcast, but I do have these questions. So did you have a mentor in all this, or was this YouTube University back then?

No, so I was doing multifamily financing as a broker in Southern California. So I had a lot of clients that were high net worth guys, and they had built it from scratch and ground up.

The experience.

I'm just a very curious guy, so I'm always asking them how they did it. And I'm teaching them how to build wealth by accessing equity in their properties to go buy more properties. So eventually I woke up and I'm like, I'm not doing what I do for them. And that was how it started.

So okay, so then you get the Ironman R8, which I've been telling you this generation is going to buy more. It's going to go up and down. I'm telling you.

Agreed.

Well, we had this conversation on the podcast all the time. It's like people eventually get to a point where they buy what they wanted 20 years ago.

That's right.

And that the R8 is the perfect example.

Perfect. Yeah.

So okay, so you get the R8. How do you end up? What's the? How do we get to today?

Sure. So every year, like I said, I set goals at the end of my year and one of them is a car goal. What car do I want to buy next year? And then the way I do that is I either have to get enough income the next year to pay all cash for that car or have to buy assets that will pay for that vehicle.

Okay.

And that's how I end it. So indirectly, I'm growing my business through cars.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

It's a benchmark.

It's a benchmark. Exactly. So it was Audi R8 and then it was V10 R8 and then it was eventually Lamborghini and then eventually I ran out of goals. So I bought a plane and then I sold the plane. You know what I mean? It was like, but it was like this whole, yeah. So now my goals have shifted away from cars. I have the perfect collection, Mr. Ford guy, right? You know, it doesn't get better than this. But I always wanted a Ford GT. I always wanted an 05, because when they first came out, I was obsessed with them. Okay. But I wasn't-

You should have bought one when they first came out, because they were a little cheaper.

I got a deal two and a half years ago for what I paid for that. You want to know what I paid for that.

You know what I mean?

Like, but so when I was, when I finally got to the point where I could afford a Ford GT, this, by the way, this was back when I was negotiating one for $190,000. Okay. I decided someone sent me that car. They're like, you should buy this. It just came across my desk. I'm like, that's different. I'll buy that instead of that, which was a mistake financially, but it ruined me for life.

Okay.

Best driving experience ever.

Okay.

Ever.

Okay.

You're going to find out later.

So what makes it the best driving experience?

So it comes off the truck. I'm in North Carolina. I'm three and a half hours from Taylor Dragon.

Okay.

AC is not working. It's dead summer. So I grab them.

A really authentic experience.

Really authentic experience. 95 degrees. 95 degrees outside. So it must have been 130 in there or something. So I grab this one gallon bag of ice and I stick it on the back of my neck and I leave my house. I'm like, bye wife, see you later. You know, like, hope I make it back. And I drive three and a half hours. I'm stopping more to refill my bag of ice. In fact, I have video from it that I took of me with a selfie with this bad guys. And make it to Taylor Dragon. Car breaks. I don't care. I find some little shop. We put band-aids on, you know, we bandage it. 12 hours in two days, I drove in that car dead summer. Taylor Dragon, Blue Ridge Mountains, all that stuff, highway driving. And I came back and I was like, I'm done. Like that's, it doesn't get any better than that.

Yeah. And this was like the day after it came off the truck.

Literally.

Okay.

And mind you, he had just had a Viper AC, like it was ACR, right?

Yeah.

Like an early, yeah, O5. So like he's coming into that car and saying, oh, this car is way more rowdy.

And a Lamborghini, I had that and a Lamborghini Perfumante.

Yeah.

And I sold, I got rid of those. So this is where it's at. Yep.

So what did the process of getting this car look like then?

As far as what?

Like a broker you're working through or something at this point, you said he sent you that instead of this, was it just somebody you were working with?

So a friend of mine, so if you're familiar with Superformance, Superformance has a couple of dealerships across the country and my friend had ordered a Cobra Mark III. And he goes, hey, you ought to reach out to my buddy and get, you know. So I reached out to him just curious and I had actually placed an order for a GT40. And that was, he called me a few days later. He's like, hey, while we're waiting for that, because it was like a year and a half, two years out.

Okay.

I have this, why don't you buy this? Sorry, I left that out of the story.

So well, because you kind of said, you alluded to they're like a little bit special. What goes into some of these? I'm sure you have tours of where they're at, or how familiar are you with the...

So they build them in South Africa, and then they ship them over here as completed rollers, and then they build them out actually 25 minutes from my house.

No way. Okay. Yeah. Is that the guy you were referring to earlier?

That's the guy I was referring to.

Okay, gotcha.

Yeah, Old Top Racing. So these are special though, because they're not kits. They're actually continuation versions from the original from the 1960s.

So what does that mean?

So the license, and I'm blanking now, because I'm on the podcast, but the license was bought out, I think, in the 80s. Okay. This is actually a cool story. The license for the GT40 name was bought out along with all the original tooling. So these are actually built in the factory. They're 80 or 90 percent interchangeable with the original cars, and they go in the historic registry as a GT40P car alongside the original GT40s.

That's freaking cool.

They're awesome. So this one's like signed by Carroll Shelby. This is the 15th one they ever built, post-production, the original cars.

How many did they build?

I think they're just under 500 right now. So it's still not, I mean, there's a long production timeline too. Yeah. So they're fully licensed. So story behind the Ford GT, do you know why it's called a Ford GT and not a GT40?

Is it?

The licensing already bought out? Because of that car? Oh, that one is.

They have the licensing to GT40.

Okay.

Ford does not.

Okay.

So they called it the Ford GT. That's my understanding.

I would have lost my trivia there. I definitely.

I don't know why.

He really explained it just before he...

Because this was supposed to be a tribute car to the GT40.

Yeah.

I saw the article that said, back with 500 horsepower or something like that. The Ferrari killer.

Yep.

Yeah.

Yep. That's right. So super special car. I mean, obviously that ruined me for life. And then I'm like, eventually I got a Ford GT, which is why I started looking at it more seriously. But he knows the story. It took me about two years to find that black and silver one because I was looking for a very specific four option, certain amount of miles, certain condition. And it popped on the market. I do daily search. I bought it within 24 hours of it being listed. So, okay.

So what's that? Is there a certain mileage of car that you prefer to buy? Like it was a driven more than six miles or what's the sweet spot?

That car I wanted about 10,000 plus or minus miles because I knew I was going to drive it. I see the ones that are selling it 1500 miles and they're selling for 100, 200 grand more.

And then every mile costs like $70 a mile of depreciation.

However, they're going up like it's, they're in such high demand right now. The values are skyrocketing. So I don't feel bad anymore. So I just went on Corsa last week and drove 1200 miles in it.

So you're a big rally guy. That's where I found out about your existence. I was telling you when you did Crown Rally, was it three, four years ago now?

2018 or 19.

Oh, maybe, yeah.

Yeah, it was a while ago.

Pre-COVID?

We've been friends for a long time. Yeah.

Yeah, it's pre-COVID.

Well, it's like, yeah, I found your Instagram. We've been chatting pretty much ever since, but is there a certain allure to rallies for you? Because you do quite a few throughout the year, right?

So I was a track guy back in the day when I was living in California. So Willow Springs and Big Willow were the tracks I would go to all the time in my R8. And that's where I learned that I can't drive. There was a GT race driver that drove Audi R8s professionally, and I invited him to the track not thinking he would show up, and he showed up. So I'm at Big Willow in my V8 R8. And he's like, I'm here. I'm like, where? At the track? He's like, yeah, come pick me up. And I was just about to go on a session. So I picked him up and threw him in the right seat. And I won't use the words he used on the camera, but I'm driving and he's just like dogging me and yelling at me. And he's like, pull over, like two laps. And he was like, so bored. He's like, pull over. He's like, let me show you what this car can do. So he put me in the right seat. I was like, what the?

Scared.

Was it just everything, like how late he's breaking? And everything.

And then he started showing off. So he's putting the car sideways through some of the turns and like literally drifting around turns at Pig Willow. And like just crazy stuff. I thought I was gonna die for sure.

In your car too, yeah.

Number one, it humbled me. And number two, it gave me a whole new respect for that car, right? And then I'm like, oh, cool. The way I drive it, I'm not gonna die. Like I can push it a little harder, you know?

So as you get more seat time, you gotta learn to trust the car a little bit. And that is a hard hump to get over. Yeah. And yeah, I've gone off a couple of times. Thankfully not into a wall, but yeah.

Exactly. When you're talking about it, like off camera about like Cory and Viper, right? Like that dude, like just at the ragged end.

He just set the lap record of VIR.

Yeah. He was really. Yeah. And he was, I know this might be spoilers for banging gears and I'll check, but I know-

Are you held back by NDAs like some of the other people?

I was not held back by NDAs. I'm just in friends of everybody who is. So I heard through the grapevine, I don't know who specifically, but he beat Tanner Faust in a Senna. Around A track. I don't know. But like, yeah.

I know nothing.

Yeah, I don't know.

But like, this section is brought to you by AI.

But yeah, no, he's a very fast driver. He knows the limit of that car. Yeah.

And he'll drive like that in the mountains and everywhere.

Really?

Yeah.

What's the scariest ride along you've done?

Oh, scariest ride along. I'll have to think about that one. I really, I mean, that Audi R8 was pretty crazy, but just because I wasn't expecting it. Actually, I know my scariest ride along.

You're talking about Brad DiVerti. Yeah.

I told you guys this story.

Okay.

I don't have to get into it too much, but Brad and his dad lived close to me and they'd surprise me one day with me showing up to his racetrack, his dirt racetrack I knew nothing about with all these jumps. And I got put in a side by side with Brad. And if you don't know who Brad is, he's, you know, how do you describe Brad's racing history?

He's a multi-year champion, like, off-road racer. And he, like, can do anything. Like you wouldn't expect a vehicle to react the way he drives it. And, you know, he, he even scares me. And I've been racing side by sides for a couple of years and he, I won't get in the passenger seat.

He used me as the test subject on his racetrack.

Okay.

So there were moments where we're flying 50, 100 feet, 3D. I don't even know. We were not touching ground as I was riding passenger.

Yeah. Yeah.

And I think I had to change my pants after that one. It was crazy. Like that was, that was the scariest I've ever been. Don't know how we didn't flip or do something, but.

Yeah. He's a really good, good driver and we created the track to kind of create that scare. So like there's a corner you come around after the front stretch and you're like, oh, this is so sick. Like this is an off-road racetrack. And then you just go around the corner and there's no more track.

You can't see.

And it's just a giant step down and you don't even see the lip. So you're just going around and you're like.

All of a sudden, you're in the air and you're flying. So with that being said, because they surprised me, literally, like I showed up at the house and his dad's like, get out of the truck. I'm like, just park it right here. Get out. And he shoves a helmet in my stomach. And he goes, he goes, give me back problems. And I'm like, no, why? And he points and Brad like, I don't know if they planned this. Like it was like synchronized. He goes, as he points, like Brad drives out of the garage and is side by side. And I'm like, oh s***. I just knew, but I didn't know about the track. So anyway, you can find that YouTube video. You can watch me as the test subject, writing in Brad's side by side. And I'm scared. So anyway, I did a payback for Brad. I decide I had another GT40 that I brought up to his house. I'm like, hey, you're coming for a ride with me. It's like, yeah, that sounds great. I've never seen Brad scream.

He's the same way. He is like so comfortable in his world. Yeah. And Vinny was so comfortable in his world. Right. And so and I was the mediator between the two. So I flipped and I was like, I know you're going to get scared in his car. And I know you're going to get scared in the side by side. So we, yeah, I got the it was a great comeback.

Well, what were you saying?

This car weighs, what, 2300 pounds?

Yeah.

Would you say 580 horse or something?

Yeah, it's got a Roush 427 IR. And if you know anything about that motor, it's just like the ultimate, in my opinion, it's like one of the ultimate American, true American, like kick-a** motors. And when you're putting it with that much weight in it, it's just, there's nothing like it. The sounds, the feel, it's very torquey, you know? And there's not much weight holding you back.

It's literally just you and the motor in that thing.

You and the motor is crazy.

You and the motor in the steering wheel, maybe some brakes.

With two fuel cells.

I'm excited to hear it fire up, because from the videos I've seen, it sounds amazing.

It's epic. You can't capture it in a cell phone.

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Yeah.

Well, you also like to share your cars with folks too, because I was watching your Instagram story. Like you go out. It's not Cars and Coffee. Was that Cars and Coffee?

Yep. It was last weekend. Yeah. Yeah.

You tell them about it.

Yeah. So we took the the 66 GT40 down to Cars and Coffee, Morrisville, and it's the biggest one, I think, on the East Coast. Yeah. Right, right next to Cars and, was it Caffeine and Octane in Atlanta?

Oh, okay.

And so it is-

There was more than 5,000 people. Like it's crazy.

Really?

They have multiple business parks attached.

Yeah. That are full of cars. It's insane.

Caffeine and Octane in Atlanta is the one that your buddy does, the Monster Guy. Doesn't he go to that one a lot too? He was talking about that one in his podcast.

Oh, maybe.

Yeah.

Yeah. That's a great one too. Yeah.

Caffeine and Octane is crazy. And so we pull up and we got invited by the host to go. And, you know, I mean, we're there before it even starts. And as we're rolling in, I mean, it's just maybe 50 to 80 people are already walking beside us as we're just strolling in and we park it. I mean, there was probably five, six hundred people just standing around it the whole day, like just rotating.

Yeah.

And we let a couple hundred people at least sit in this driver's seat.

Yeah.

Like we just let the door open. In fact, we let a cat turn it into its home.

Yeah.

This guy walks around with a cat on his shoulders.

Okay.

Your little context. So as he gets in the car, he sets the cat on top of the car. That's what it's a first, you know, cat gets in, cat's literally curled up. We probably send him a picture of it. Cat's curled up in the passenger well. And so it was just, it was just, it was awesome.

There's bodybuilders trying to get in and out of it. And they were like, it was, they, they were just so, you know how built they are. And they was just couldn't even fit, you couldn't even close the door because of the triceps.

Yeah, literally, literally. We actually just posted a video of it. So if they do want to see what we're talking about, it's actually, he did a great job filming and editing it. So it's actually one of my favorite videos.

It's like you're there, like with us. Yeah, so it was really cool.

Yeah, and we're very like, you know, I had that one guy let me sit in his car when I was a kid. And that's kind of what sparked, cause my dad and I used to go to car shows. So that sparked my appeal. So I want to pass that along to the next generation.

A specific car, you remember?

It was a classic car of some. I don't remember. I was so young for that one, but I just know that car, you know, like cars was my thing. But then-

Your dad into cars or anything like that?

He was, yeah.

Okay.

We didn't, we just didn't come from much money. So we didn't get to have stuff, you know, we had a couple of cars. My first car was a 72 Volkswagen Carmagia.

Okay.

And it was bright orange and it was awesome, you know? So that was cool. My neighbor had a 69 Camaro. And then he was really into Volkswagen. So he had like a, I think it was a 65 overwindled Beetle. And then he had like a notch back, which most people have never even heard of. And you know, just, so it was just, the love was right there. And Southern California.

Volkswagen is cool.

Volkswagen is cool. Yeah. I'm not about those Porsches though.

Yeah. That's the spicy Beetles.

I only joke about the Porsches because I have never seen more hate for a car on mine right now than for Porsches. Have you seen all the short clips?

Hate is unbelievable.

Yeah. So I only say it jokingly. I love Porsches. I've had a couple like they're awesome, but.

The big thing that I think that it's polarizing, right? Because like it's such an amazing car, but then you see like the price tag, you're like, no, it's not.

That's been kind of the hate, I think, that's coming down on it. And then here's me, Mr. Mustang GTD, right?

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Yeah.

Have you had a chance to drive like a GT3 RS or anything?

Yes, I did. I drove a GT3 RS back in 2015 in California.

Okay, so the previous generation.

Yeah, so I'm driving it on like the 10 freeway, the 5 freeway, the places you don't want to drive that car. That car scared the piss out of me.

Okay.

Trying to get in and out of traffic and get on the highway and stuff, cause it was pretty busy, but it was awesome.

Oh, well, here's a question then. So for example, I have one of my buddies, he has a couple of ACRs, like Gen 5 ACRs. He got thrown into like a 07 whatever Porsche Cup car, and he says it was a very similar raw experience. Have you driven any race cars like that ever?

Funny enough, no, I've ridden in some, and it's that raw feeling, but funny enough-

You hear everything.

Oh, you hear the sequential, you hear the bearings, you hear literally everything, you hear the road noise. It's crazy, and it's funny because that you say like, have you ridden in any race cars? Because we've actually had two race car drivers come over here, Matt DiBenedetto and Haley Deegan, and they are like NASCAR-

Besides Brad DiBrede.

And Brad DiBrede, of course, yeah. And so we've let them drive the GT40, and they get out of it. And they're like, oh, how can you ride this on the road?

Both of them were at separate times, and they literally both got out of the car, no joke, and said the same exact line. They're like, I've driven, as a race car driver, a lot of stuff in my day. I've never ridden or driven anything like that. Both of them said that.

And they go 200 miles around Talladega. They get that and they're like, holy crap.

Haley Deegan tried to take it home, too.

Yeah, they both were like.

I had to swat her hand like six times.

Yeah, it's true. No, no.

Well, this is what I like to hear, right? Because that's why I asked you if you drove a Porsche or not, because I just want everybody to know that I validated in all the s*** I've been saying for a long time where the good stuff is, and nobody believes me.

Absolutely.

Well, to that point, and you're driven a lot of stuff, I've owned a lot of stuff. I've had the peak Lamborghinis and R8s, and like I told you guys, I bought, I think it was a 2021, the Audi R8 V10 Performance, and I'm a diehard Audi guy, and I owned it for a month, and it bored me because it was so perfect. I hate to say that because it's a phenomenal car. Like literally, you can daily drive it, drive it anywhere, but the problem is that.

I love that feeling.

I love that. And same with the GT500. I mean, you have one. You have a track pack. You know, we talked about this, but there's something visceral about this car wanting to kill you, but also not at the same time that the newer supercars don't have anymore.

The also not is a very good point. So we have a mutual friend. So he has, I think he's making 1,014 horsepower to the wheels on his, and I got to drive that on a rally for a couple of, what, 1,000 miles.

Oh my gosh.

Dude, I'll be honest with you, I've never been more confident in a car in my life.

Yeah.

I've like, and it's like, it just hooks it and books it, and maybe it's because it had Cup 2s on it or whatever.

Yeah, yeah.

Cup 2Rs on the Cup 2.

Because I don't feel as confident and this is still stock. Probably a tire issue.

It is one of, what do you have on for tires?

Just whatever. I think Pilot Sports. Yeah, yeah, that's what's on it, which I love. That's a great tire.

They had to warm up too, though.

Yeah, I warmed them up.

But it's such a, and again, through the show, we get to try everything, see everything. It's really cool, right? I still, this is still one of my peak cars. It is such a great driver. And it's actually, so I mentioned my pops as a AMG GTR. It's very similar to that.

That's cool. The bang for buck is...

Bang for buck is unparalleled.

Unparalleled.

The one that came up for sale the other day. There was a crazy one that came up for sale the other day. It was making 1,300 horse.

The guy has the whole catalog of everything. A three liter Whipple. It's everything you would want in the car. 85 grand.

Steel of a deal.

Yeah.

Crabber Lime.

Vinny, can I have a load? Please.

Well, to that, so I did own a GT350R at the same time of owning this. The only reason I sold that car, and that's where I'm going to transition to you, you can talk about it, because we've done rallies in it, Blue Ridge Mountain. I was applying for the GTD, and I was hearing rumblings that I had a good chance of getting one. Okay. At the time, I had 25 vehicles. Yeah. It was like between also considering ATVs and stuff. Yeah. So I was like, I want to downsize because if I get the GTD, it's too many.

It's going to take up the whole garage.

Yeah. It's huge. It's wider than the F-150. It's crazy. I'm like, how? Yeah.

I'm not here.

But the GT350R was really his in this garage. Tell them about it.

It was literally the perfect car. So he actually bought it in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Funny enough, the Tello the Dragon is actually on the way home. So I fly out to Alabama to my buddies' house.

Am I going to pick it up for me?

Yeah. Instead of shipping it, I was like, hey Vinny, I'll just drive it home for you. Then we got a little trick up my sleeve, and the Tello Dragon is on the way home. So I fly out to my buddies in Alabama, and he was like, oh, I want to go. That sounds like such a cool experience. He's actually also one that's going to be on the GTD trip with us. Ryan?

Yeah, he's an amazing guy.

Amazing guy, good photographer, amazing driver. So we go up to Chattanooga, because he only lived three hours from there, and we picked up the car, and we drove it through the tail of the dragon. I was like, oh my gosh. That car, I did not think, and I've driven 997 GT3s, I've driven a lot of Porsches, a lot of mid-engine cars, and I was like, this car acts like that. Like this car, I would turn it, and I was like-

It is not a Mustang.

I can still- It's not a Mustang. It was definitely insane, and that car would like the traction control system was the best one ever, because everybody's seen the videos of Mustangs crashing. I would purposefully, not purposefully, but you would get a little loose in the rear end, and the traction control would kick on, and make you go straight. Like even with your foot to the floor.

I don't think I've seen a 350 crash, actually, now that I think about it.

I don't think I've seen a 350.

They're just built different. They're literally absolutely incredible. And he, it was funny, because he showed up, I'm like, oh, it's got a thousand more miles. Wait, how many miles does this car do? 250?

250, how did he get it?

How did it get a thousand miles? No, I'm just kidding. But I love that he did that, because that's what I wanted him to do. I wanted him to go, enjoy himself, shake it down, tell me all about it, let me know, because I was busy or something.

It was an amazing, amazing experience, and we actually went on a rally together.

We took this and the 350R.

Awesome. Yeah. We just went out to tell the Dragon with the guys in town, and stuff like that. Even in the rain, that car, I was keeping up with one of these.

He was hauling in the rain. There was a moment in that car where I was trying to keep up with him in the rain and I'm like, I'm not doing that, and there goes Miller. But that's how confident that car made me.

That car would have CUP2s and carbon fiber wheels. Yeah, yeah.

Oh yeah. It was an...

I wouldn't drive CUP2s in the rain. That's not...

I think it had extreme contact sport pluses.

Yes, that's exactly what it had.

It was an amazing car. There was guys in... What did the other guys drive? Onelle's, they drive...

Oh, it was everything. There was a few supercars.

Yeah, it was... Twin Turbo Gallardo, and I was behind them. Like I was...

He was up their a**.

They got back and they're all like... They've been doing this for a couple years. And they came back and they're like, Dude, Vinny, your cameraman can drive, dude. They were all purposely coming up to me.

And they were like, You were trying to shake him, and he could not get away from it. I was like, well, yeah, he's a great driver, but I was like, the car is just... Him and that car is melded together, but it does that. The mountains, it was one of the best cars I've driven. Besides GT40, one of the best cars I've driven up there. The only problem is that I found with it was for street driving, it was underpowered to me. Because I'm driving it back to back with this. You know, like bad out of hell. But they're two totally different purposes. If I was a track guy, that is a perfect track car.

Do you find this handle similar though? Just not quite as well?

It handles similar, but I don't feel as confident in that as I did in the 350R. The 350R created a confidence that was unmatched.

On rails and in the dragon, you could put it to the floor out of the corner and it wasn't like you weren't losing it. It was just that right amount of power.

You put this on the floor out of the dragon. I think that was part of the confidence thing I'm talking about is because it had less power and it was that high revving motor, you could really dial that in on all the turns and stuff. You're coming out of the turns. This, you're like, you're doing a track backwards.

Well, Simon, we were talking about earlier, CJ. CJ. Yeah. He, so he races cars, right? Trying to import KTM Expos here. Like big race car guy. His like fun carving roads, GT50R. Yeah.

And this is a guy that's driven race cars. He's worked on race cars. I think it was that NASCAR team he worked for at 1.2. French guy, French guy. Fun French guy. But anyways, he has the Expos and that's still what he does. So I don't know, man. I think the GT350 doesn't get enough credit.

The only reason I sold it was because-

I was about to say, why'd you rip his heart out?

Yeah, honestly.

I felt, trust me, I still feel terrible to this day, but there was a point where I wanted to get down to this many cars with the GTD. And I still have one more car hasn't sold. It's a Daytona Coupe. It's coming back tomorrow. Might try to sell it again. So, I'm like kind of teetering on that, but it only because that is my manual rally car. Yeah. And most people that own the 05, 06, Ford GT stick them under covers in a garage. I drive mine. So, it was like 350R or Ford GT. I'm like, hmm, that's a tough one. You know what I mean?

Like that was a tough one. Yeah.

Listen, that was not on the cut list at all. Yeah. But like if I'm going to the mountains, which car am I going to take? Because I only have so much time. I got kids and stuff, you know, to drive. It's like I'm taking that every time. Because I'm not afraid. Like I said, I just did Corsa. I did 1200 miles in it last week.

And are you, so are you typically to, you seem like a car guy who kind of leaves things alone though too. So you're not into modifying or where are we? Because the 350R would have been great with a Whipple on it. That probably would have, if you were worried about it being underpowered.

So here's the story behind that. I do love modifying cars. I put a VF kit on one of my R8s and ESS kit on another.

Oh, that's right.

The reliability comes into play when you start doing that stuff. With the cars I have and the maintenance schedules alone, when you're up to 25 vehicles, the last thing you want to deal with is a modified car that requires extra attention. So I think I kind of got that out of my system and then decided, hey, you know what, with the limited time I have to drive, and I love driving my cars, I drive them a lot, I'm going to keep them stock, so that I can just not worry about that.

That's the reason why my GT500 sat stock for so long. Because I did, yeah, now that you say that. My GT 2015 Mustang was a reoccurring pain in my a** for things I had to do to it. So although the GT500 has now officially been cut up, so my goal is 900.

Nice, I like it. Most of the time it doesn't last long to keep it stock. We've actually been in talks with Whipple on this thing. We've considered it, but I've done, the first year I had that, I did an oil change, it cost me $188. Year two, I think, I just did the major service and it was 1,300 bucks, and I've had no, I've put about 12,000 miles on that car since owning it, owned it about two years, and I've had no issues.

Well, rallying it, right? That's the other thing too, it's like you're, it's basically like Le Mans across the country. Like if we're being honest, like yeah, you're not putting the car through its paces sometimes.

I am putting the car through its paces.

Yeah, and you find the limit of some mods sometimes.

Yeah. Yep.

That's a true, like that, the 5.4, the Whipple, like that's a tried and true, like, here's a rock solid setup.

America. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I've seen that car on gravel roads before. It's covered in dirt and grime.

It actually looks better when it's full of dirt.

It looks better when it's full of dirt.

Yeah. It's in the rain.

So are you familiar with Lumber 21, Ben?

Lumber 21.

He's a guy, I think he's out of Chicago or whatever, he owns some sort of business, and he gets, he has Ford GTs, GT3RSs, and the second he buys a car, he goes and drifts it through dirt and gravel. He's like, I don't care, I'm driving the s*** out of this car. I love that.

I've probably seen his stuff online.

You probably have, dude. He has the cool, yeah, it's just cool. Yeah, the guy, have you ever had a car that you put under covers?

Or wanted to?

I've driven the s*** out of every car I've owned. Okay, I don't think there's a car, I'm just trying to think.

The only car that sat was his Beck Speedster, was your Speedster.

Cause I just didn't want to drive it.

No, it was just because it was, yeah, it wasn't as cool as these.

It didn't appeal to me, yeah.

But nothing. Speedster, like Porsche Speedster.

1956, or 356, 57, 356. But that was a replica that I bought. My wife really wanted one and I was like, do I spend all the money on an original? Cause they're insanely priced. Or do I buy something that is tried and true as a Beck Speedster? So it's kind of like the Mecca of them. And I was like, if she drives it, she won't break down. I don't have to worry about her. Like that's kind of why I did it. It was gorgeous though.

Yeah, it was like everybody came in and all, like you'd have all the guys come in and then all their wives go, Oh, pretty. Cause it was like cream. It was.

If you want a magnet, if you're a single dude and you want a magnet, go buy yourself a 50s Porsche Speedster.

Okay.

I have never seen anything like that in my life. That or a purple Lamborghini, purple Monte.

Yeah. Yeah, of course.

So 1950s cars, do they offer financing?

Well, you can pick one up for like 30 grand.

Really?

Yeah. I think I sold mine for 52. Mine was a really top spec, though.

Had pretty low miles on it.

It was unbelievable.

Had a clean car fax?

It was a Subaru motor.

Yeah, it was 200 horsepower.

Really?

Yeah, because the originals were like, what, 80-something horsepower?

I think 81.

And that was the biggest complaint about them, is they're basically like Volkswagen Beetles but in a cooler body. But mine was like, you know, little Porsche in that same body.

What do you daily drive? This?

So I switch between these, yeah. I mean, some weeks I'm just feeling it and I daily drive that sucker.

Okay.

I just don't care. Like I just, whatever I'm really in the mood for. But if I'm really going to lay it on something, it's trade off between these two.

So then I'm going to ask, so as a family guy, and we are a car family, all of us, so does your wife have a car now? Or what, I was going to ask as a guy yesterday, as a car guy, usually we use our wife as an excuse to buy a car for her, even though it's like an excuse to buy another car. Does she have anything right now?

No, not right now, because we're just so busy that she just wouldn't have time. But she's a big Porsche Cayman fan, go back to the Porsche. So I did surprise her, what was this? I forget what year it was, but I think we were engaged, and I bought her a 09 Porsche Cayman S, and she loved that. Let me tell you, for fun factor, that was a fun car.

That's another bang for buck car.

Yeah, we've heard the Caymans and...

Boxers.

Yeah, well, oh yeah, nevermind.

But you gotta get the S.

Yeah.

The S makes a big difference.

Actually, that might be what Massey has. I always forget what he has. And he gets so mad at me every single time. He's like, I don't have that hairdresser card.

So...

If it's got a convertible, it's a Boxster. If it's not, it's a Cayman.

I think he has a Cayman S.

Yeah, I think that's what it is. Yeah.

We had a blast in that car, but we sold it because she got pregnant. And then it was like, oh, well, you know, that dream goes out the window. We found someone that really wanted it. And I've been considering getting another one. She really does think about it, but she's not a car person.

Did I just see her leaving a Navigator? Yeah, she drives it.

God, it's like you guys are cobs.

We are, we are. My wife, I just got her a Navigator and I'm about to get one for myself.

You're the best, right?

Dude, for what that 3.5 EcoBoost does, that truck takes off. I'm like, this thing is freaking awesome.

It's got power, it's got luxury.

It's got bells and whistles.

Yep. We've done here to Disney, Disney World so many times. We drive eight hours. It's comfortable for everybody. We've put both grandmas and both kids and both of us and luggage and it's great.

It's a great car.

And it's a Ford, technically, right?

Yeah. I bought a $2,000 piece of s*** Lincoln town car. And that's what I, when we had a studio in the city. I was driving my Super Duty and people were trying to merge into me and s***. I'm like, I can't handle this. Or if I took the GT500, I'm like, this. I got the town car. I was like, let's play bumper cars. Let's do it.

You literally got it for the podcast.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

I can't stand driving in traffic, man. I'm like, I'm just going to hit people if you piss me off.

Well, I had an F350, the turbo diesel version up until I just sold it a few months ago because I've been obsessed with the Shelby trucks for years. But that was like the opposite. That was like, no, just get out of my way. Like tonnage, right? So I'm like, no, you don't understand. I'm going through now.

The Super Duty does give, like I can get on somebody's a** and they move over quicker than when I get on them with any other car. Oh yeah.

When I built it too, I did replace the entire suspension. We put air ride in the back, had big wheels on it. It wasn't like, it wasn't overdone though. It looked very, very good.

It wasn't one of those mall crawlers that you can walk underneath.

No, don't remember.

We thought about it.

Function over form for that one for sure.

But yeah, so I hear you.

Yeah, okay.

I love that fricking town car by the way.

You know what?

It's a flying couch.

As a Fiat, a Ford guy, I'm surprised that I haven't had, so that's the Panther platform they call it. You know, it's the Crown Vic, the town car, the Grand Marquis that they did forever and ever. It was every cop car, all that stuff. I had my first Panther car and I'm surprised I haven't had one sooner. It is just one of those tried and true. It always works. It drives. It was cheap. It's full frame on car. I can get everybody in it, family of six. The center console flips up and we can do three in the front, three in the back.

And there's something about those old seats. I don't know what it was about them, but you literally just sink in and you float. Yeah, that car floats.

They don't still make them like that anymore.

They really don't.

I got one as a loner car one time and I loved it. I don't even remember what I-

That's our next car. We're actually going to mod that one. Oh yeah.

I'm going to fully build one. I'm getting one and it's going to get Coyote swapped. Absolutely, 100%. It's on my list of s*** to do.

Roush 427 IR, I heard, is a great motor.

Yeah, but the Coyote is a direct bolt-in.

This is true.

Yeah.

Can you imagine that in a freaking town car, dude?

I know.

Roush 427.

You started up and it sounds like that.

Just get like a legit chassis on it, just lock it down.

That's awesome.

Just drag everyone at the track in a town car. Oh, man. Yeah, we do an event called Optima Ultimate Street Car. Yeah. Up, whatever. And some of the cars, did you see, like, what was it? A Blazer last year or something?

Yeah.

Yeah, just-

K5 Blazer, I think won the event.

No.

Well, K5 Blazer on the outside.

Yeah. On top of whatever it was?

On a chassis, like, full race built, major horsepower.

Lapping faster than a Huracan STO type.

Dang.

Holy crap. Dude, we haven't talked about what you're building. Oh, yeah.

So, I'm building a 93 Fox body.

Ooh.

But-

I'll be back in an hour.

But you're not enough like me because I'm putting a 2.3 EcoBoost in there.

No, we're-

that's fine.

Okay, sweet. I'm glad we're still friends.

Your Ford motor is fine with me. And actually, I have an 86 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe, which is a 2.3 turbo car, and I have a wrecked EcoBoost Mustang, and that transplant is going to happen.

Yes, absolutely. It's the best thing. It was the best thing I've already bought. Wide body fenders for transmission, I just got to find my 2.3 EcoBoost, but I'm going to build it solely for going up to the mountains and ripping.

The EcoBoost swap in them is becoming way more common. Everybody's doing a Coyote, but you get a lighter car, you can get similar horsepower out of it.

Yeah, they can get, I think, with just a few tunes and maybe a little bit bigger fuel, and you can get 400 to the wheels with it.

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All right. And then you got, you got what, 2,800 pounds I think they are, or like a little around that, but like that's going to be unreal. I'm trying to build a mini 350R because I missed that car.

You got to really pay attention to suspension and brakes.

Suspension and brakes. Yeah, I've already sourced all that for sure.

Yeah, because that sounds scary in the mountains.

I don't want to take up the entire podcast with it, but afterwards, let's chat because I'm also doing a 93 Cobra that's getting coyote swap that I'm doing full K number, shaved engine bay. Yeah, I want to put a predator in it, but I don't want to spend 30 grand on a drive train.

You should definitely do boom tubes if you're doing it. Because if I went V8, I would definitely put boom tubes out the side, like the NASCAR exhaust. I was like, I almost switched the whole project just for having that exhaust out the side. Side exit exhaust. So cool. But yeah, turbo noises sound cool too.

Yes.

What's the story with that? What did we see up there? Was that a Bronco up there?

I can't remember.

Oh yeah, we need to talk about your neighbor and the 78 Bronco that's sitting there.

Literally everyone who drives down here tries to buy it. The first day if you had it there, I was like, I will buy it.

There's been some people that come here with money, I assume.

Everybody tries to buy that car. I mean, even the guy that comes over from Duke Energy that's like, hey, we're going to do some work on your property. By the way, who owns that Bronco?

The first day it was sitting down there, I was driving down there, then I was like, hey, ask your neighbor how much he wants. I want it.

It's a not for sale thing?

It's not for sale. It is actually a customer car of the son. The son's older, but it's a customer of his and the guy. And what's funny is he will not sell it, but it sits not at his house. It sits here up the street from my house.

Does he not know what those things are worth right now?

Don't tell him.

Don't think he cares. It was just crazy.

We just at the Detroit Auto Show, one sold for 150. Coyote swapped all done up nice.

Yeah.

Insane.

I know.

They're so cool. Yeah.

So sorry.

That's all right. I'm just drooling over all cars down here because we come from the rust belt. So like that truck at home would be rotted. And sitting there like that, it'd be gone.

You haven't even scratched the surface yet either. I mean, you're in like American Race City, USA.

Yeah.

Yeah. I didn't know that when I moved here. It's kind of moved from Southern California about nine years ago. And so I was going to like Supercar Sunday and all the different car events you do in Southern California. My R8 was basically a sidewalk compared to what was being coming to the shows, you know, it was like, I'd park next to Jeff Dunham's car, Jay Leno's car. And out here though, I was like, I hope there's a car scene. Hope there's a car scene, right? The stuff I have seen here is hidden or that comes out to show, like, it's unbelievable.

It's really crazy. And especially we just went to that Morrisville Cars and Coffee and the owner of Epic Games lives in Raleigh and takes his cars out. So like you'll see his P1 or a Senna or like he has some insane cars. And then, you know, out here, it's very drag race centric too. And so just going down the street, you'll hear like a pro charger that's louder than the exhaust. And you're like, what? I thought it was a jet flying. It's just the amount, the different kinds of cars is just. Yeah.

The amount of classics you see and the quality of them is amazing. Cause you don't get rusty or, you know, we don't have to do that.

So how's it compared to the California scene then?

I don't know how to say this in a nice way. It's less pretentious here.

We have more drivers here. In LA, you got a car, you take out for that purpose only.

Once you get on the 10, it's like, all right, we're going six miles an hour.

And that's the other thing. And I'm not dogging on that car scene, so I'm in it forever. And I used to be with groups of guys, we'd go to Angela's Crest and drive the hell out of it. We knew exactly when the highway patrol would turn over, their shifts. So we would be going up the mountain, up Angela's Crest on Sunday morning, when they were coming down, we'd actually pass them. And then the second we passed them, we're like, all beds are off. Yeah, we're gone.

I will say I really enjoyed driving, oh man, what the heck were we? It was a Camaro rental car, a four banger Camaro. We were just ripping in the mountains over there. Cause we were over there to pick up a noble, the M12 GTO3R. Yeah, the Jeremy Clarkson car, the best car ever. But dude, that's a pretty sweet scene out there if you can get away from the traffic. So completely.

And to be fair, any us from the Midwest, we just assume everybody from California is pretentious. We don't care what you drive, you're just an a****** anyway.

That was 15 percent for a while too.

Thanks, Dan. We just lost 15 percent of our audience.

No, I mean, in all seriousness, Southern California has one of the most epic.

We're headed there next month.

Yeah. I say it jokingly because, for example, Shawn and Ken from Autotopia LA came out here, did a couple of episodes with me. They were on the quarantine cruise now. I mean, I get goosebumps because the quality of Restomod Pro Touring classic car builds out there is unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, literally, they do. I just not them because I'm from there and now I live here. But they just have some of the most incredible builds ever out there. But then here, you also have that. It's just not as flashy and in your face. The guys bring them out and it's like, who, you had that? I thought you were like the janitor at the school. Oh, you're a race team owner? Yeah. Literally.

It's a different type of energy out here.

It is.

Yeah. Well, I think you could also speak to it because you've been on both sides of it too. So yeah, that makes sense.

But I mean, the coolest part here too is we have a lot of backcountry roads and we don't have the traffic that you had out there. So you can actually get out and drive your cars.

Yeah, you can actually drive them.

Yeah, so you get a different type of person.

You're so spoiled down here.

We're so spoiled. I mean, like I said, I'm an hour from Blue Ridge Mountains. So I'll take a day off during the week, especially, I was telling you guys before the hurricane hit last year. But I would take a day off and just jump in that and just go. And I'd be gone for eight hours or that or that. Like, you know, and that was my way of like clearing my brain from all the stress.

You can actually drive those cars too, right? You can't be gone in your head.

What's it like here in like January and February?

Those are the months where you kind of hibernate. It gets cold. It gets cold enough.

What's cold to you?

30 to 40?

No, it can get, well, I mean, it can get in the teens. Yeah, especially at night. Yeah. And so the one thing is, though, that you're just worried about ice on the roads.

Yeah.

It's less about snow. It's more about ice here.

Right.

That's the danger.

Well, then your tires are different. Anything under 40 is sketchy on any kind of nice tire.

I would say December, like early December, is when it really starts to finally start to cool down, and that's when I stop going mountains.

Okay.

But like, I would say March through November, really.

Yeah, November.

You can go over Dry Blue Ridge.

In Thanksgiving, it's like 75 degrees.

It's awesome.

It's literally epic.

Yeah, because for us, sometimes we'll even have snow like really late April.

Holy cow.

We had a big snowstorm right before we left for Texas 2K.

You guys are doing it wrong.

Yeah.

You need to come down here.

I would say I'll probably end up in like, you know, either Dallas or somewhere in Tennessee or somewhere down here, man.

Tennessee or the Carolinas, man, especially for car guy because you can just get more options to drive. Well, that's why Texas is flat and straight.

That's one of the cool things about doing this podcast. It's like I'm trying to figure out where I'm going to move to.

You just get a visit before you.

Yeah, I'm exploring myself.

Yeah. Well, car world, you can't go wrong either because there's people everywhere. That's what I love about this community. That's why we're doing, which I'm sure you're trying to eventually point us towards, but when we get the GTD, we're planning a 6,000-mile US tour in the car, just to share it with the community, just because the car community is epic.

What's the game plan there?

We got a crazy idea. So we were watching all the GTD entrance videos, and we were like, we could do this so much better. So we did.

By the way, before you go there, so when you apply for the GTD, you had to make a minute-long application video, along with your application online. So that's what he's talking about.

You just had to clip a YouTube video of whatever, which when I did mine, I just sent when I was on as a guest of the Minoxide podcast, by the way. That's how I did mine. I was like, here's a link to this video of me just fluffing Ford for two hours. Yeah.

He's the first guest that we ever had that brought notes of everything that he has.

Well, some of my cars I have are like there's a rarity number to it, right? So this is car one of 115 or whatever. I have ASC McLaren, Capri and Saline Cobra and some of these things. So I was like, I didn't want to get the numbers wrong when I was seeing it. I think it was only 120 made.

When you're applying for a GTD. So that sets the stage for now. Yeah.

So we made our video and it's probably been up. I mean, it was probably one of the most viewed GTD allocation entry videos. And I think we just hit it right. We just showed all the cars, showed examples.

Showed Haley Deegan screaming in the GT40.

Yeah. We were just like, we will share the car. And about a month later, Vinny texts me, he goes, go check my Instagram right now. And I'm like, okay. And was it Jim Farley?

Jim Farley's been liking all the videos around the, he didn't like the allocation video, but he liked all the ones around it.

And so we're like, oh, he saw it. He saw it. He had it.

He must have seen it. We were like little school girls.

And so we were like, okay, this is a good sign. This is a good sign. And he was like, okay, what can we do with it to like persuade them more into, you know, giving us the allocation?

It was, it was actually, well, kind of, right? It wasn't really, that wasn't the intent of the road journey, but it definitely was something that we presented to Ford once we thought of it. Cause we're like, hey, when we get this car, we're going to take it on, we're going to share it with the community if we get the car. But I'm sure Ford was also like it if we did, if we shared that with them, that we were going to do that. So we did heavily play on the application with us doing this road tour, which now I'm getting car number 38. So my car gets here next month, which is crazy. So I think that also played towards being able to get an earlier allocation.

Did you click that, there was options for like, I need it now if I don't have it now. I'm gonna get in a Ford corporate parking lot and get on my hands and knees and do a toddler fit if you're not getting my car right now.

So I had a cool experience. So in January, they picked a certain amount of allocation recipients to go up to Ford. And it was very secret. And they did it in, I can kind of say now, we were under NDA at the time, like around the event, so I couldn't share anything. They took our cell phones, but they took us in the back of the Roush factory, which even they said, there's very few Ford execs that had even been back here. And they had three GTDs sitting back there for us. And we got to like, there was a red one, a race red, that blue, that new blue and a white one. And it was just, by the way, there was also a 2017 Ford GT that no one even looked at. Cause the GTD, if you haven't seen one in person, has so much presence. It's just like, what the F is that thing, right? And it's bigger than that, bigger than the F150. So like, so I go in there and Jim Owens, he's a big, he's like head of the program and he's pretty high up with the execs, you know, and so he's standing in there. So I walked up to him and I've already received the allocation at this point, but I'm like, hey, I'm going to do this road tour. Can I tell you about it? It's like, yeah, what do you mean? And so I pitched it to him. So he gave me his cell phone number. So we're trying to also now coordinate with Ford outside of just ourselves to try to get, because, okay, what's the farthest one's ever been driven? Probably the one at Nurbur.

Yeah, the hardest one.

I think they're driving them around right now to test them, but no one's going to do 6,000 miles.

Right, yeah.

So like, hey, Ford, by the way, we're doing this. So if it breaks down, what do I do? Like, can you be there for us? Like, if I need tires, if I need this, like, where do I take it? What do I do with it?

Just have like three stackers behind you.

It's actually going to be that-

We're taking the Shelby truck.

Yeah, the F-150.

Yeah, as a support vehicle.

Well, yeah. I mean, if you're doing 6,000 miles, like, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And obviously, so no one's ever done it. So I was, so also part of the pitch to Ford is like, hey, by the way, we're also doing this because nobody knows how this car is going to do.

Right.

You know?

So, okay. Do you have a map for this thing?

Yeah, it's, it looks like Ford symbol. I want to say it looks like an oval, like across the map.

Really?

Yeah.

It's like going down into Texas, going out to LA and then going through Salt Lake, Colorado up to Michigan and then back down.

Okay. Are you going to do, First of all, are you joining him? Is it how's the season?

Yeah, I'll be driving the F50.

Okay. So it's going to be you two.

Yep.

So obviously you're going to be doing photos. Do you have like particular like landmarks you're trying to hit to like get photos in front of, you know, like, for example, like, oh, here's Wall Street, here's the Alamo, you know.

I mean, kind of. Yes. I know that.

We've not found out that. That's actually, yes.

Postcards, dude.

Dude, that is a great idea.

Route 66, stuff like that.

That is a great. Okay.

This guy, all right.

Damn it. You're on the marketing team.

I've been rallying for five years.

I know.

So the bottom route is a very like, hey, we're going to show this car off. And once we hit LA, we're going to do a car meet there as well. But then once we go back up through Vegas, Salt Lake, Colorado, it's going to be like, okay, this is the time to get all the media. Because in between Vegas and Denver is probably the prettiest area of the country. I've been on several rallies that go through from, they leave from Denver, go down to Vegas.

Are you going to hit Pikes Peak too?

Pikes, I mean, I'll have to, have to.

I'm saying photos of these landmarks would be freaking cool.

Going through, I know so many places in Utah, I've spent a lot of time out there, and I just know so many canyons and so many good areas just to take photos. We're planning on doing all the showing the car, and then on the way back, it's going to be more media based. Yeah.

We'll still stop on the way back in places. Also, we want some of that good driving experience. Ford Factory was in there, we're going to go stop there and see everyone. Hopefully, we can meet Mr. Ford. That would be sick. Some stuff like that, but our intent was really just to, I mean, honestly, we didn't think about landmarks because we want to meet the community. The whole point is to bring this car, people know what we're doing. We're going to do a vlog every day. Our goal is that the video is released each night of, which puts a lot of pressure on him and Ryan, because it's like, we just did this whole day, met all these people.

That's why you can sponsor an energy drink.

That's a great idea.

We're not looking to make money off this thing, but if we can get some sponsors to help with some of the costs, that'd be fantastic.

Well, Red Bull would make sense, right? Because Ford, Red Bull, NF1, they should give you a whole truck full of Red Bull.

Yeah, because after the Red Bull truck, follow us. And by the way, Michelin, just put some tires on for us. Yeah.

Absolutely.

But have you thought about reaching out to, for example, Utah, Stradman?

We have a bunch lined up already.

Okay, cool.

Yeah. Supercar run.

We haven't hit up Stradman, but Supercar run. More than ones that we've been communicating with for a while. We might stop and see Andy, Andy Fussello. We're going to try to go see Jane Leno. So there's a couple bigger ones that I don't know if we can connect with, but we're going to try. Because I just think it'll be special. Be like, hey, these are the guys driving across country with this GTD. It's cool to tell stories about it, like of our journey so far. Yeah.

Well, I can just imagine getting a photo in front of the arch. Is it Gateway Arch? Is that the official name?

Yeah.

Let's add that to the list.

That'll be a good video. Yeah.

Yeah.

So we're going to do a video every day. I think it's 17 days total.

Okay.

Then we're also going to release post tour collaborations with all the people we collaborate with.

17 days is crazy, dude. That's awesome.

That's crazy. Well, we have certain days we've planned like eight or 10 hours of driving just to get to the next spot. Then we might take a day off and spend that in Colorado or have the whites fly in and meet us or something.

Well, especially once you have dates. I don't know if you guys thought about doing this, but I've had a crazy idea of doing a 50 state rally. Just join us along the way.

That's sick.

That's what we've talked about.

It's like, here, come join us. But if you drop dates like, hey, we're going to be in this city, join us for 100 miles or whatever, just people cycling through. Have you ever thought about, for example, if you look at Gold Rush or I think Corsa as well, they have multiple legs of a larger rally. Imagine you're doing the whole leg and then you're like, we're going to be a whole new group, right?

Sounds like he wants to help plan it.

Yeah, it sounds like he wants to help plan it.

Well, we're not. My wife and I do a lot of time and we will do a rally and we'll end up somewhere like Atlanta one time. We try and hit all that stuff. So I've got pictures of her car in front of the Arch doing all that stuff. So we plan an extra two or three days to go home. And I did the whole thing in Detroit. So you're going to Michigan. Another really cool one is to do in front of all of the abandoned factories. I got a bunch of pictures of my car doing that. I went to the road plant, like you're saying go to the Ford plant where they make the Mustang. And I took pictures there. That's where I had a guy in the parking lot look at me like, what the hell are you doing? And I was like, do you not see this all the time? They're like, no, nobody gives a s*** here. You're there in Ford, like Mecca, right? Like people drive Fords are all over the place. Those Mustangs, like nobody gives a s*** that the factory is right there.

That's true. That's true.

Have you, cause like, for example, like I have a number of friends in the, again, Viper World where they went and they picked up their ACRs. You know, the 107 deal or whatever, like that, I think it was talked about in Binwiki, but like, have you thought about like even just starting in Detroit sort of deal or would that just be too crazy?

No, so our community's here. So what we're going to do is we're going to do a launch party here somewhere, let this community come out because it's like, it's like representing Charlotte, right? Like that's kind of, it's our home base. So that's what we want to do. There's a lot of people have expressed they want to drive with us. Two things, one, we're trying to be careful of liability side. So I don't want to announce rally status. So my pitch is going to be, listen, we are driving from here to here. I can't stop you from following us. The car will not go past the speed limit. We're going to set really, no, when it's just us, like, you know, it might be different.

You'll observe.

Observe, yeah, observe the speed.

The thing is what we're worried about is the other people. Because imagine you have like a...

Wanted to race the GTD. Like, you know what I mean?

Trying to race us and then spin out an email. Like, it's something...

People are going to try to get mad content because literally car number 38, a lot of the big influencers have pushed their allocations back. Like we talked to Shmee a few weeks ago. He actually pushed his back a year. Well, because of the madness with tariffs and all this other stuff, no one really knows what's going to happen. True. But I've decided just to push through. So who else is going to have one? It's number one, going to be driving it. Number two, going to be doing content with it. So we're nervous that people are going to be looking for that moment, that Instagram of a moment, that viral moment with the car.

It's always going to be an infinity or something that just like a G37, it's not trying to blow your doors off.

So we're seriously thinking about that because we don't want to be that super car fails, GTD, you know what I mean? Because all of our intentions are good, and it just takes one person to make that, to screw it all up.

That's where the social media thing can be a little tricky too, right? Like you do a tour of America and then drop it after, but then it's like, how do you share this? It's a tough spot to be in.

Yeah. So every place we stop, there's going to be an event. And we've talked about just doing it at a Ford dealership because how am I going to plan out parking lots or the right business park to do it in? Because we think we'll have to.

And that's where we're working with influencers kind of helps, too.

Yeah.

They could deal with that city.

Exactly. But how cool would it be also to be a Ford dealership? I think Ford's more likely to get involved too. And then we'd have safe storage. That's the other thing we got to be careful of is like, yes, we're staying the night at Atlanta, but we're not going to tell you where the car is. And I'm not hell of not parking it at a hotel.

Right.

Like it's going to be in somebody's private collection somewhere.

We've had great hotel experiences in the past two weeks. Yeah.

Seriously.

But it's an easy car to spot, too.

Like, yeah.

Yeah.

Like you said, it has presence.

Yeah.

It's literally a billboard.

And people are going to see it and go, holy s***, there's a GTD driving through Atlanta right now. And then all of a sudden that's out in the ether.

Yeah.

People are looking for it.

It's so funny. So we had Lingenfelter on the podcast last time we were in Detroit and they were talking about, like, yeah, we had 10 ZR1s parked here. Like, one at every single color, right?

It's amazing.

And they're saying, oh yeah, it's just a ZR1. Cause they're so used to it over there. Yeah. I'm really excited. I'm curious to see what the final production number is going to be on that. I've heard rumors, but who knows, right?

So I talked to Jim up at this thing and asked him specifically about that. And they're, they're not certain. I mean, all I can say publicly is that based on my conversation is probably around 1300 is probably realistic because ramping production up, they're probably only building 100 cars this year.

Yeah.

And this is year one. They wanted to ramp it up to be able to build 700 a year.

I think I heard a thousand a year is a number I heard too.

Yeah. He said they probably won't get to that. I think 350 a year is 350 years doable. But 700 is probably where it lands. But it also depends on the CEO of Ford and what he ends up doing.

Right.

If you stay, because this is his baby. I think he wants to see more of them. Where the allocation recipients are like, we want to see less of them.

Yes, absolutely.

Stop at a thousand.

Yeah. That's one of my biggest fears is doing that and then not have it appreciated in any way.

Yeah.

It's tough, right, because it is a sizable chunk of change. To anybody.

And then when you look at, if you took that same amount of money, the cars you could get with it. Not that the GTD isn't amazing. And again, Ford fanboy through and through, I bleed blue. But there's some pretty k****** cars you can get.

But I've owned those cars.

Yeah.

I can tell you what, it ain't going to be as cool as the GTD.

Yeah.

I don't mean that as like a fanboy ask either. Like you get to a certain point with buying certain level of car. And you can say you've kind of done them all.

Yeah.

And then like, well, what else is there? That's when you start getting into stuff like this or race cars or all that stuff.

So as somebody who's not indoctrinated.

You mean like both of us?

I was born this way. You converted.

This is true.

I did convert. Which is I think even cooler to be honest with you.

Yeah.

I converted.

It's like I became Jewish after marrying my mom. Married into Ford.

Dude, I feel like it's got to be like an Adam Sandler or a Kevin James movie. I can't remember. David.

I don't know.

One of those guys. I'm trying to think like where it was like a whole conversion thing. They're like dunking them into water or whatever. I need to find that movie. A lot of movie references this trip. But no, as somebody who's not indoctrinated, you have to look at objectively. It is, since the Viper, let's be honest, it's the best thing that's come out of this country track-wise. Because the Viper held the record. Yeah, you can go like, oh, it could set a faster track with better tires, blah, blah, blah. Who cares? Like, if you look at the Carrera GT, it did 10 seconds faster on modern tires, right, at the Ring. We're talking about a sub-seven-second car. Okay, cool. Yeah, maybe it's a few seconds slower than the Porsche, but it's still the freaking coolest thing that's come out of this country in a while.

Well, also, I can't drive that fast. You put me on Nurburgring, I'm doing 12 minutes. Yeah, like whatever, you know what I mean? Like it's not-

You'll have your blinker on for two seconds. You will.

I'll be like, come on, pass me. There's no ego here, right?

I kept doing that on the track with his car last year, by the way. Took his 500 on the track, I kept hitting the blue turn signal.

That's Ford. But my feeling behind it, my feeling, and actually I wanted to talk about this on short, was that for me, I didn't come from anything financially. I've built this, right? And now I'm Ford guy and I love driving these cars. And for me, it was very specially selected. And because I didn't feel like I had a chance. And now I'm getting one of the first cars. I'm like, what did I do to deserve this, right? So like to me, it actually signifies like my journey in life. So for everyone, it's personal, right? Did you think you were going to get an allocation?

Like, you know what I mean? No, to be honest with you. And again, I like, I was punching outside my weight class. But I think what I really like that they're doing is, I think it went to true like enthusiasts or like people that love the brand.

That's what I love about it.

Yeah. Which made me like, that justified it for me. I was like, you gave me one? Okay. That means something.

Exactly. And so that's why I feel the car is so much more special too. It's because you feel a little bit of pride in being selected, right? Because I mean, we don't think we have a chance, but also like, then there's another side of it. So there is a lot of like, I don't know why the car's getting so much hate and hammered right now on the internet.

People do that to everything.

You're like, wait a minute, wait a minute. OK, it's Mustang by name, right? But let's really think about what the car is. Yes, it's built on an S650 platform. The S650 goes up to Multimatic Factory. Then they tear the whole damn thing apart completely. And basically like should have started from scratch. But then it's all carbon fiber body, a true 50-50 weight distribution car from front to back, rear transaxle. They put a freaking window in the back. You can see your suspension working. Like, there is so many cool things about this. It's not just a Mustang. It's definitely not a C8 with a body kit that put a thousand horsepower. Now that's a cool a** car.

But I also- I was gonna ask you how you felt about the ZR1. Now I know.

Let me tell you, it's cool as hell. Don't get me wrong. Best bang for your buck car right now, in my opinion, is a C8. Right? Like it's dope. But like, but like, I was at the auto show before I went to the special Ford Roush factory experience of the GTD and they had the Spirit of America GTD and they had an S650 Mustang, a dark horse, right? And I look and I'm like, they're not even in the same league. Like they're not, they don't look the same. You've never seen a GTD in person. You don't really understand what the presence of this car is. And then behind it, they had a C8 and a C8- ZR1.

Or a Z06A and a ZR1.

I think so. I don't know if it was a Z06, it was a convertible.

Oh, okay, okay, gotcha.

They look the same with a little extras. Yes.

And again, that's how I felt to it.

Super cool, right? Super cool. But it didn't have that like, oh s***, presence to it.

So it's kind of like when you look at a Cayman and the new GT3RS, they're the same.

That's a perfect example.

To answer your question though, like what is it with the hate? I think it's two reasons. I think one, obviously the price, oh, it's just a Mustang, like you said, right? That one I don't care about. I think the one that gets a lot of people going is like, you know what I was saying? If you're going to come for the king, you better make sure he's dead.

Never heard that before.

Well, it's like if you're going to try to kill the king, make sure he's dead. When they called out Porsche and all these guys, you know what I mean? Granted, what is it? Within two, three seconds, something like that, something within a few seconds at the ring. Again, we're not going to get anywhere near that time. So who cares? But there's just something to be said. It's like if they didn't come and swing so hard out the gate saying, we're going to destroy you.

Yeah.

I'm probably exaggerating a little bit. It might be part of that. So I think that's where it comes from.

That's a great point.

But also people just love-

Also people are like, 400,000 for Mustang, now 600,000, what the hell is that? I'm like, it's a race car.

It is.

It's a cheap race car. It's a GT3 car. To be honest, what's a normal GT3 race car cost? A million dollars?

700,000 to campaign it.

You know what I mean?

You said the same thing about these cars when they came out too, right?

Yeah.

120 grand for a car? Yeah, but people were lining up and some people were paying 50 over MSRP for it. So obviously some people like it.

And I'm choosing one over an R8 or a Lamborghini. Yeah. I have the means to not own this car, to own something else. Dude, yeah. This is an awesome car.

So we had one of the first GT500s in the country to go on my rally. He literally got delivered six miles. He did his break-in miles on our rally. That's awesome. We drove through the Black Hills, like Mount Rushmore area.

Beautiful.

Amazing. We took it to Pike's Peak and everything. And then we went to PPIR over there to racetrack. And dude, like we had a McLaren on the rally and everything. And I'm like, dude, the Mustang is just hauling. I'm like, that is a super car and a Mustang.

Yeah, that's right.

Oh, absolutely.

There's very few cars that you can't put that right in the a** of for sure or pass it.

Okay, that's a phrase.

You know how many people have tried to shake me like on s*** that we're doing or rallies or whatever?

A lot of Chevy's trying to shake us. Oh, sorry.

So this is the way that's a perfect example, super car and a Mustang body, right? That's the way I described the GTD. And that's what I don't think people have really caught on to yet. It's actually like a Ford GT in a Mustang looking shell. Yes. That's really what it is. It's built in the Multimatic factory. They just built a brand new Multimatic factory where they built these. Like that's what the intent is, but they branded it a Mustang. So like you have to like look at the big picture, but I think most people online, just like anything, the recent article was like $600,000 for a GTD. It was like, that's clickbait crap, right? And then, but everyone's now bought into, I'd never pay for it, let alone six and all the hates there. And you're like, well, I spec mine for under four and I have a great spec GTD.

Well, it's like Dan always says, you're not a car guy unless you can give each other grief.

Totally.

We bust each other's balls everywhere.

As long as we can all agree to hate on GM, I'm fine with whatever.

Okay. Well, there goes all of our tomorrow's listeners. No, I just think it's, I think the price is the big killer. It's like, it's that much for a Mustang. I think that's like, again, like Dan said, when this car came out, 100,000 for a Mustang, to be honest with you, I think the GT500 is worth every penny.

Oh, absolutely.

I think it's best bang for your buck.

I hope the GTD is the same and I think it will be.

I think it will be. Yeah.

Is it a Ford?

Is it a Ford?

Is it a Ford?

Absolutely.

Oh, yeah. Cause like, I don't know, I'm trying to figure out what context you're asking that.

Right, cause like, oh, you take it to Multimatic, you reskin the whole thing. And it's like, that's another one of the arguments. It's like, oh, it's not really a Ford. I'm like, all right, who cares?

No way.

But then is that a Ford?

Right, exactly.

It is because of what's sitting in the backside of it.

No, but I guess that's the way I'm thinking about the question, you know, like the Ford.

I think it's a Ford.

Yeah, totally, hands down. I think it's actually one of the mecha Ford, in my opinion, because it's almost like, it's almost representing what that represented in the 1960s in a way, right? Mustangs trying to make this comeback in the racing ring, and they're doing a pretty good job. And then they released this car to signify that.

It's a purpose-built car. I think, and the only reason I ask this is because I see comments, dude, and I, dude, I just laugh now. I'm not sure how many comments you get. You probably get a sizable amount as well, but I get like anywhere from 15 to 20K a month. And I'm like, I can't read all that. But man, sometimes I do and somebody ends up at the top of my stack and I'll just drag them, you know, every once in a while.

But the OEMs, when they build specialty stuff like that, they outsource that a lot. Every OEM does it. It's a thing, you know?

Look at Toyota with their Supra, their new Supra. It's a BMW Powerplant.

That's a great point.

I mean, which brought a lot of pain on me.

Oh my God, yeah.

So like-

It's still a meme.

And now people love the car. So you just have to get past the initial grief and then you have-

That is one of the best, like as up there, I should really be careful where I'm saying this, that is up there with Coyote notability right now. The B58 platform is insane. They put it in everything. We talked about this with Gus. It's in every tier of BMWs.

Yeah, that's true.

You can, like junkyard B58s, 10, 15, 20 years from now, they're going to be everywhere, everywhere.

It's going to be like a new...

There's two things. I've got to go back to the Ford thing because when you ask if it is, that 4.6, when they went to that mod motor, not that the push rod stuff isn't great, but when they went to that platform in like in the 90s, that is still this Coyote infrastructure and the Predator, which is what's in the GTD, that is they're doing the dual overhead cam, all that stuff that was... And sure, maybe they got it from... They were getting European inspiration and JDM stuff. Cool, but they did that, right? That's their platform and that's what's in that car. Second of all, you could be a philanthropist that saves puppies and gives them the homes and somebody would be like, why don't you just leave them in the wild where they belong? So it doesn't matter what you do or what you say online, people are going to hate.

And that's my approach with it. I didn't develop the GTD. I'm not personally offended by any comments because that's not... Like, I have nothing to do with the program. I'm just lucky enough to be a babysitter of the car until I die. You know what I mean? Like, I just get to drive it. That's my feeling about it. Like, I am just a... I forget the exact word I'm looking for.

Caretaker?

Kinda, yeah. Like, I can't take this with me when I go, but I'm gonna enjoy the hell out of it while I'm here, right? So that's how I feel about the GTD. So like, when people say things, I'm like, it's not personal, but for me, it's personal. The car is personal because of what I told you, earning to this part of my journey, living in a place where I have opportunity, where I built something that was of value enough to get me to this spot. And now I'm gonna go take that thing that I think is so special to me, and I'm gonna share it with all you guys in the community. I'm gonna let you sit in it, I'm gonna give rides in it, we're gonna drive it across country, we're gonna do what's meant to be driven with that thing and do it justice. That's why, to me, the hate comments are just funny, because I'm like, I know what this thing means to us and to me, you know what I mean?

Okay, wait a minute.

Perspective.

If you wanna talk about also Ford, I get that motor that's gonna be in the GTD, you could take it out and bolt it right into my town car.

Is that why you applied for one?

Yeah, I just wanted the drive train.

Can you imagine?

I think you should do it. You would break the internet.

I will say this for Corvette now, right? Because we do, I don't wanna sound too hateful of them. Whatever the hell they did with the ZR1 is insane. It is awesome.

I've heard rumors of what they ran at the ring to. It's impressive.

If it beats the GTD, I won't be surprised.

And the fact that you can get that and just go up to BP and put pump gas in it and do that is insane. It scares me.

So listen, we all talk s*** about each other. And do I think, I think they should have done more to separate it from a regular C8 in design.

Okay.

But it is one killer car.

Yeah, but then it probably would have been 400K too.

Well no, it's already gonna be 400K with the dealership markups. Yeah, Chevy dealerships.

Don't get me started on that s*** too.

Did you know that about the GTD by the way? They don't mark them up.

Really? Okay.

Yeah, they should.

No, because the allocation is with the individual, not with the dealership.

Okay. Point one Ford over Porsche.

Right.

You remember how much they were marking those things up?

That's crazy.

But that's what we didn't get.

I don't think the community understands because that wasn't really public for a while. But what happens is Ford pays the dealership a flat fee when they take delivery of a car for customer. So the dealerships are actually seeking the allocation owners to earn their business. So if I go to Ford, Timbuktu, wherever, and they go, by the way, we're going to upcharge this 50 grand. Oh, okay, cool. The one in Detroit won't do that. And I take my allocation and I go to Detroit.

Nice. Okay.

So that's the difference. So that they're not allowed to do that.

Okay.

Yeah.

And that's public information now.

Well, it's been on a little comment, so I hope it is.

Okay.

So you're not the first to release it.

No, I'm not the first to release that. So don't get on with it. You can easily look and see people talking about this all over. Yeah.

To your point earlier about the C8. So we went again to the Detroit Auto Show. That was my first time at the Detroit Auto Show. And you see that spirit of America. I was lingering.

I wonder if we just missed each other. I went on Friday.

We went on a weekday.

Yeah.

Was it Thursday or Friday? We left earlier in the week.

Sorry to interrupt you.

It was on a whim thing. We were like, what should we do? We had time in between.

Let's go see Vinny. Damn.

But so I went to go check it out. I was lingering around the GTD for about 10, I was like inspecting it. Right. And it was the spirit of America. And I'm like, this car has presence, blah, blah, blah. And I went to go check out the C8. I'm like, there's got to be a ZR1 here. I really want to go check this thing out. And listen, I got friends at DOEMs over at GM2. And it's like, it's cool, but I was kind of underwhelmed compared to the GTD.

Yeah, that's how I felt.

It felt like a beefed up Corvette rather than like a- Exactly. Like a marvel of engineering. It didn't feel like that.

I felt like it was a quick response to what Ford was doing.

Potentially.

And I don't know if that's really the case, but that's how I felt about it when I saw them at the auto show.

To be fair, I think they probably had that idea for a while. That whole platform is engineered to, again, if they do this whole Zora thing that they're talking about, that'll be cool. I hear a lot of, like, if that's just a beefed up E-Ray, I think it's gonna be sweet, but we'll see what happens.

I drove a C8, what was it, the R model before the Z6 came out.

I heard those are amazing.

I had a blast driving it. It was, in fact, I even looked at, the guy I was riding with, I'm like, dude, this is a Huracan. That's what it felt like. It felt like a Huracan. And it just, it went everywhere he pointed it, had great power, it was comfortable. It literally felt, cause I've owned two Huracans, I had the Huracan and the Perfomante. And that was what it reminded me of more than anything. So I was like, good job. I was like, good job.

A mid-edging car is already pretty kick-a** too, right? Yeah.

Well, the fact that the GTD has a torque tube is new to me too.

So, well, Ford solved it by making it 50-50. Cause even when we were there and Jim Owens was talking to us, he's like, you guys don't understand. This is a true 50-50 weight distribution car. Like we designed it that way. Took a lot to get there too.

I'm sure.

I was like, damn.

Well, it's kind of like the Gen 5 Vipers. It's like, I think it's like 48-52 until the driver sits in and then it's a perfect 50-50.

Wow.

I think it was something like that. Yeah.

That makes a lot of sense for Cory.

Yeah, cause like, yeah. But okay. Well, I'm excited for you to get that. Then you'll have an official date. This podcast will probably drop. I'm guessing the week before. You can get it. So.

Oh, really? You think? Okay.

Roughly. I think so. If you're expecting June, we'll see what happens.

Well, June, probably towards the end of June.

Okay. Yeah. This will probably be like a few weeks before then.

Okay. Cool. So what we're going to do. So this is how, and this is why I want to talk about it. Cause I think this is really the most special thing we have going on right now that we're doing. But car, they deliver the car to my house. They send three, four, five Ford engineers and people with every car that gets delivered. They send them down. They spend two hours with you going through the car, telling you all the ins and outs. Cause it has active aero both underneath, in the front and in the rear wing.

Well, carplay too.

Yeah. Here's how you sync your phone. One hour on carplay. One hour on carplay, the rest of the car. Yeah. But they actually come here, so we're going to film that whole experience. So we want to bring the viewer in the car community to see what that's like. Cause how many people are going to get to experience that? I don't feel like I should experience that, right? So I was like, it's cool. And then now we've changed a little bit cause our detail guys were going to come wrap the car in PPF in the garage and we were going to film that. The problem is now though, Ford's saying 30 days and literally it comes out of paint, it's finished and then it's like at my house.

Yeah, that makes sense.

So I'm like, it's really okay.

Wait a little bit.

But then we're going to do an unveil. We're going to do a huge unveil party. So you guys are obviously invited, told you that. And then as soon as we have a date locked in, we're going to do it within two weeks of the car arriving. And we have some pretty, you're like, who's going to show up? I'll put it that way.

I've got to take Vinny's phone away from him for two weeks. He will be like, oh, we got to post a reel about it right now.

But we're not showing the car until the actual unveil party. Then we'll film the unveil party so people can see that. Yeah, it'll be pretty. And then immediately, I think the break-in miles are going to be to Tail the Dragon. We've already talked about it. It's 247 miles or something from my house to Tail the Dragon. I've heard that the break-in is 250 on the car. So, literally, we're going to do that.

Should be broken in by the time we get there.

We want to be the first GTD through Tail Dragon.

That'd be cool.

And we're going to film that.

Okay, so what about meeting other, have you met other, well, he doesn't count. Other guys with allocations?

Yeah, we have a bunch of them. It's funny because the allocation recipients, a lot of us have found each other.

I've run into a few and it's really weird.

It's like Tinder for allocations.

For a car that's supposed to be that low in production, like even just on the job side, there's another guy that I know that's a big Ford, him and I were chatting. He's got one too.

Well, it went to normal people that will really appreciate the car. What do they call it? GT Grinder? GT Grinder.

Grinder.

That's the bad side.

I don't know what you think about this. I'd download the app for sure. I might even pay for the subscription.

Well, it's all gonna be dudes. That's the problem. Grinder is for dudes. That's a good point.

I wonder how many chicks got it.

We do know one down in Florida, a chick who drives it. That's her name. She's got a Linerini Aventador. She got one of the new... She has like a Mr. Crumb collar on her.

She has a GT500 too, right? Or no?

No, she has a Drift Corvette. Is it a C5?

C5, yep.

Yeah, yeah. Bad a**. If you've never seen her, go look for a chick who drives it, right?

Yeah, I think so.

I think she has a YouTube too. She's been firing up, but yeah, super cool.

I wonder what her spec will be. You don't have to disclose it.

No, no, no. She hasn't gotten her window yet. Her window's coming up. I said July.

Okay, so 26. Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Gotcha, okay.

That's how... Ford did it really interesting. So the first, what did they do? The first 100 cars were this year. So they selected the people that were going to get the first 100. And then I think the allocations go out to 2027.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I saw something about that.

Receiving. Yeah, yeah.

Hmm, maybe I still have a chance.

You can also delay your allocation.

I'm going to talk to them. I'm supposed to get my email in like November to April. They gave me like a five month window of like, we might contact you within this amount of time. I was like, okay.

Yeah, they're like, we'll contact you in June Vinny. And then next thing you know, I think it was March. They're like, hey, we're here. I was like, awesome.

But so have you, for example, like you said you want to Detroit or whatever. So is everybody else as enthusiastic as you are about it?

There's a lot of guys who are.

And then a number of flippers too, probably.

You can't flip.

Well, it's going to be a two year wait.

You can flip after two years.

Yeah, you can flip after two years. Yeah, there's probably people trying. But even, I mean, there's a lot of dealerships that didn't even get allocations. Cause they had to apply just like us.

So it doesn't go through, cause they had you pick a DSO, so like a dealer or whatever. But so you already, they're going to bring it right to you here. Is that only like a first few cars thing or?

No, everyone that takes delivery gets the car is, you can choose. You can take delivery at your dealership of choice or you can have it delivered to your house.

Okay.

I was like, b****, right here. We're getting the horses out there. They're like, can you accommodate? I can't, I can't, they're like, can you accommodate a hundred foot trailer? I'm like, I don't know where it'll turn around. So we'll have them drop it in the neighborhood, like we do. We'll just drive it.

Dude, you should like put it like on a gravel road. Like, yeah, we're dropping it right here.

We're dropping it in the pasture. I drove a gravel road right here.

I live in a bigger town, but the Ford dealer there sucks because it's a big dealer. I go to a small town dealer, is who I normally buy my stuff through. And I can't even imagine their mind being blown, having one of those dropped at that dealer.

So the dealer also has to be approved.

Yeah, they may not approve this one.

Yeah, so you want to check with them to see if they're approved to receive it. They call them selling dealers. So a selling dealer, from my understanding, doesn't mean they can sell GTDs because no dealers can sell GTDs, but they can accept delivery of the GTD and you actually pay your money to them and then that's looped to Ford.

Interesting, okay.

Yeah, so I think I'm allowed to share all that.

If you have to edit it out, just let me know.

No, no, no, I think we're good. So now here's the thing about this. I feel like we're being watched by the CIA. Like it's literally, because if you got, have you signed your NDAs or anything?

You have to do that step one.

Dude, it's like, really, really.

I even printed it out, I was like, do I need to have a lawyer look at this?

Yeah, I checked with the concierge and with Ford in the very beginning. I'm like, what can I share and can it? Like I have an Instagram presence, right? What can I share? They're like, anything that's not public, don't share. That's the simple part of it. They checked with their attorneys and they got back. So they're like, don't take pictures of your configurator. Don't like talk about pricing of individual options. Stuff like that. It's just kind of common knowledge. Then I saw some people start posting some stuff. I'm like, you should probably take that down. They're like, no, no, no. We got approval from Ford before we did it. I'm like, okay, that makes sense. There's a couple of guys online that you've seen posting configurator footage. It's because Ford told them they could.

Interesting. Well, you got to link it a little bit too, right? Feel the hype. Because part of it is hype. Like, yeah, it's only going to be whatever, 1,000 or 2,000. I don't know how many cars, but it's like, you know, there's however many Bugattis in the world, you still get excited about those specs.

Like, true.

I don't know, man. You still want the hype out there. Otherwise, a Bugatti wouldn't be a Bugatti.

That's true.

Right? If you never saw the light of day.

I'm surprised they haven't contacted us to leak more. Yeah, I'm shocked.

Yeah.

Because we're very outspoken about it, you know?

Okay.

Yeah.

So I still think that fricking teal cobra color would be the sweetest color. There's so many. When you go to Sando's classic Ford colors, dude, it'd be. I hope some people did some cool stuff.

I really wanted this color. This color would have been beautiful on the GTD.

This is one of the everybody goes nuts over spec, the heritage, Britney blue.

It'd be high.

Like I'll take this to the grocery store, old ladies in parking lots like, man, I've never really liked Mustangs, but that's beautiful.

That's pretty.

That's the new wife lover right there. When guys come over and bring their wives, that's the new part.

It is. Wives love this too.

It's the color.

It's something about it. So if you're looking for a wife, Porsche Speedster or a Britney blue. Heritage edition.

I can take a look on this one.

If you want the gold digger, you get the Lambo.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know what's another sweet color? So I had the opportunity to see a Lamborghini balloon white on a Viper. Dude, that color is sweet.

Is it awesome?

Dude, if you could see that color in person, that would be something sweet. I don't know, man. I can't wait to see the specs that come out.

Yeah.

You know for mine, I'm not revealing my spec until-

Yeah.

You guys got the privilege of seeing it, I guess, because you're here. But I'm keeping it totally hush until the show's over.

I think that's smart. I think it's going to be cool for a reveal.

Yeah.

I'm a little pissed that the surprise is ruined now, but that's fine. You told them?

Well, there's a picture somewhere. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that.

Yeah.

I don't know, man. I wonder what the worst color is going to be. There's got to be one black.

Well, if you can-

It'll end up on worst spec.

Dude, it looks so awesome in black.

Do they actually look good in black?

Dude, I don't know. Well, the one at the ring, I think was black, if I remember correctly.

It is black. Okay.

It's sinister as hell.

It's sinister.

The only problem with black that I see is it deletes a lot of the accents.

The body language.

Because there's a lot of black accents on the car.

True.

So, I've never seen a black one in person. I'm sure it looked great.

I'm sure they'd look good.

But the other colors I've seen, I have not seen a bad color. So, I've seen a bunch of them now.

Someone should absolutely do British Racing Green.

I thought that too.

That would be a beauty.

That's not far off of Eruption Green, which is a Ford color that I really like.

Oh, that's true.

Well, keep in mind, British Racing Green has 9,000 different shades. Every company has a different British Racing Green.

It's like, which one is it?

I wonder also how many people are going to do Stripe Delete, because if you look to the GTs, the Stripe Deletes are worth a little bit more because they're rarer.

This color would suck without Stripes. I love Stripes.

I've seen a black one without Stripes.

No, black looks great, but I'm saying this color without Stripes would never work.

So I have seen three GTDs without Stripes all in different colors and it looks amazing.

Yeah.

And the Stripes are the same as the Spirit of America, and that's public. So if you order with Stripes, you get that. There's also other things you could do to the car, which I won't share because that is top secret. Apparently, I'll probably get shot leaving here by sharing.

Instead of a laser, I can actually go out there.

A little Ford logo, yeah. If you see a laser logo, Ford. No, there's some cool stuff, but I think the Stripe Elite car looks the best.

It looks awesome.

From the configurator. Yeah. All of the carbon options, b*****. And there is one carbon car that is public out there. It's like a maroon.

Yeah, yeah, yep.

Sick.

I wish I could have seen that in person to really take it in before ordering, but it's also a really expensive option.

Yeah, it's a, I don't know, man. I think a solid color looks awesome. For me, ultimate spec, like for me, GT500 and probably even a GTD is that red, like that bright red, white stripe.

That would look sick. That's kind of like the Shelby.

I have seen the race red GTD.

That's one of the rare colors in the GT500 too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not a red car guy mostly, so to me it didn't do it for me, but I could see the appeal because it was, it had presence.

I got the least tickets in a red car. I don't know how I see that. Yeah, they say if you have a red car, it's just easier to spot.

Yeah, yeah. Do you want to transition a little bit to rally life?

Sure. Yeah, we've been talking about the GTD for 45 minutes.

I know, I know.

I'm sorry. Miller's like, I've heard all of this before on the GTD side.

The GTD is awesome.

I guess, yeah, I guess the way we'll wrap that up is like that's going to, we're just, we can't wait to meet a lot of a lot of you and share this car. I think it's going to be really exciting for everybody. But Raleigh, why don't you start off, because you've been in the Raleigh scene circuit.

Yeah, you introduced me to it and it was a day I couldn't kick. Yeah. No, I've done media for Crown, or I guess for just Raleigh's for five years, six years now.

2018.

2018. Yeah. It's like summer camp for adults. It's like summer camp for car enthusiasts. You get to go out, to meet new friends.

That is the most epic way to just-

You get to have dinner, you get to go and do all your different activities, and you come back in, you share your day. It's literally summer camp for adults.

And you try not to die and you try not to get arrested.

That's, yeah.

It's like a big game of cat and mouse.

Yeah, it's a cat and mouse game. Yeah. But I mean, no, just going on all the rallies is awesome. It's like you get that same feeling from summer camp. But doing media for it, it's very cool too because you get to see. Not band camp, yeah. We don't talk about what happened at the band camp. But yeah, no, I mean, just being on the inner workings of rallies and stuff like that is really cool. And then Vinny's taken me on a few where I was just a participant. I'm like, wow, this is cool too. Like I got to see both perspectives.

But yeah, because like we talked about, he took my 350R and was actually a driver in a rally too. So he's seen the whole gamut. And you run rallies.

Yeah.

So you get it.

I've done it as a participant on other people's rallies. I've run them. I've done photo. I've done every side of it. Yeah. Besides volunteering, I guess.

So our favorites lately, Corsa, obviously. I love Corsa Rally. I love the people on Corsa Rally. If you haven't had a chance to look into Corsa, if you're watching, look into it. Huge bang for the buck.

Yeah.

I'm not sponsored by them. I just love them. I just think that it's just, I just had so much fun.

You'll send them an invoice after.

I'll send them an invoice.

Yeah. I'll send them this link.

Just link and then a PayPal request. Yeah.

But we have one locally also. It's funny because we have a really tight community here of exotic car guys, and we're all in threads together and stuff. They started one called CLT Speed, and it started off, one of the guys, he started track days and then ended up also adding a rally.

Okay.

So like four times a year, it's either track, I think they do more track days than that, but four times a year like the main events, and they'll incorporate a rally. And we've had a ton of fun with that. So that's another one that people can look into, just called CLT Speed.

Okay.

At CLT Speed on Instagram. So that's been really cool. Crown, obviously, I haven't been in Crown lately though, so I can't really speak to it.

I'm curious to see how it shakes out. Asa, I have chatted with him every once in a while, the new owner of Crown, but we'll see. It looks like a number of events sold out, so we'll see what happens.

That's awesome. I've been invited on Gravity recently. What are some of those? Ace of Spades, Gold Rush invited us.

It's just so lovely.

There's a lot now.

There's a lot.

There's a lot of rallies.

Yeah, and it's like one of the guys from back home, he's going international now. He's doing one in Japan and it's like...

I think I've heard of that one. Yeah, that one's so sick.

That's GeForce.

Yeah, GeForce, that's the one.

Yeah, so him and I started right around the same time.

Oh, cool.

We were kind of competing, but then he just took off and I was like, yeah, I lost a lot of money. I'm moving on.

Yeah.

But no, dude, there's just something, again, there's really nothing like rally life. Now, we're gonna do our first drag and drive, hopefully soon, which is like...

Awesome.

It's like rallies, but with more race car stuff.

Yeah, speed week kind of.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of like that sort of deal. So that's kind of appealing, because it's like everybody we've talked to is like, yeah, it's like a rally, just more race car s***. So that'd be kind of cool.

Is that the one Vince does?

No, I think that's what...

Does that climb the mountain?

He'll race the route, or there's something.

There's something that we're like, like it like shuts down that area for like two days.

Yeah.

And it might not be that, but like more like the drag week type of stuff, whatever. Yeah.

Okay.

They take their drag cars and then put it like a little trailer behind it with extra tires. And then they go and race.

Oh, I never heard of that.

So you can get the fastest time.

You might have seen dragon drives.

No, I have not seen that.

Yeah, so cool.

So like, for example, a guy we recently had on the show, he has a 2500 horsepower Nova, right? And he will take that. It's a 300 mile little trek. And you do like, basically go to, a smaller one would be three drag strips.

Okay. I'm tracking now.

And then you would take the average of your whatever.

I was thinking tail of the dragon.

Okay.

You said dragon drives. I'm like, I drive dragon.

Oh, yeah.

Dragon drives. That's why I say hill climb. Because hill climb is a big one up in the dragon.

Okay.

We're talking about the dragon drive.

I think Sick Week is probably the biggest one out there. That's like in the Florida area. So, yeah.

Is it Florida?

Well, I think around that area. Around this area, I guess I forget where I am right now.

Michael Narciss is shouting at the windshield right now. Yeah. Yeah. So, that's like one of the things. So, that's the next thing we want to try because it's like that rally life, but more race car oriented.

I love that.

Yeah. It's awesome. We should check out Corsa though.

Definitely, for sure. I also am working. I want to work my way up to One Lap of America. I don't know if you've seen that one or heard of that one. So it's road courses and it's a week long of drive a day, next road course, do it, drive a day.

I thought it was 18 days.

Maybe it's really long.

I saw a Dodge post or something about 18 days recently. That'd be kind of cool too.

Is that the one Dennis Wolthoff was telling us about?

I think so.

Yeah, that's nuts. He drove a Shelby Cobra, 65 Shelby Cobra. Oh, really? What they would do is they would race, like a full on race, like competitive. Then you have to drive to the next racetrack. Then you have a full on competitive race. He won like two years in a row. He's beaten Lambos and all sorts of stuff.

He had no roof.

No roof.

He didn't do it. He had no roof.

The cops came up one time because they were pulled over in the middle of the night, and he was sleeping in the Cobra with his feet literally over the side, and his passenger was asleep on a park bench. The cops were like, what are you guys doing?

We're racing.

They're like, literally, yeah.

That's a special kind of racing car.

He's got a legend.

He's awesome.

He's the one I was talking about earlier that owns Old Off Racing and his dad found out last night, I don't know how, his dad raced the Daytona Coupe in the 60s. Yeah.

Holy crap. That's cool. Yeah.

So that's where the long-

The heritage goes.

But yeah, he's like one of those secret race car legends.

We've got one that involves that car up there on the lift. We'll tell you that. It's an off-camera conversation.

Okay. Oh, I can't wait.

Yeah.

Dude.

He and I left there and we went, I don't know what just f******-

He was crying. Okay.

Yeah, almost.

It was anyway.

Is it repeatable? Is it something I need to repeat or is it like-

We'll take you out for a minute.

I'm so excited now.

Off-camera.

Like they were camping. Remember the picture of the camp, the guy that camped with his GT40 that put something on the side door?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. A lot of people have been saying, you need to recreate that.

Oh, yeah. You should.

I'll put it in my password.

Do it with the GTD.

Yeah.

I got a roof nest. So we'll just get you some roof bars and just open the roof.

Camp on top of the GTD.

Just get some sea suckers and put a bike rack up there with a-

So here's the deal. Dan knows this best. I'm really good at coming up for ideas for other people.

Me too.

I'm really good at spending other people's money, their time to-

We've been known to be good at just executing other people's ideas.

Yeah.

Well, as we kind of start, we're coming up on- We are at two hours. As we start to wind down- Yeah, the car guy talked, man.

Holy crap.

As we start to wind down, man, what are you most proud of?

What am I most proud of?

Holy crap. That's a deep question.

I know.

Do you want to start?

Oh, goodness gracious. I'd say just the memories, I guess. Like I get to tell my grandkids about times like these. Like, hey, we used to sit in the garage and talk for two hours, just about car guys. Or just talk about, we get to have this connection with people who live states away. The memories I think you get to share is what I'm most proud of, and the content I've created and inspired other people. I think that's my biggest thing is what I always grew up being inspired. Like I had the first car I ever was like, oh, I'm a car guy, was I sat in a Vantage. We were driving back from my grandparents' house and I saw a Vantage. I was like, Dad, pull over right now. And he didn't even need gas. We pulled him to this gas station. This guy with his Vantage let me sit in it. And I was like, this is crazy because I mean, it's an Aston Martin. It's got all the shiny little things right here. And I'm like, I will have one of these. And so like he inspired me. And that was my goal is just to create that for somebody else. I think that's what I'm most proud of is being able to inspire people.

That's awesome. The one that brought you into the car world, that's a biggie, right? Like you just like pull up as a guy with a Mustang or a Camaro.

Yeah.

Just a Vantage.

Yeah.

It was my era of playing Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2. And that's the car I always chose.

And I was like, that's the car.

So it was like, it was cool. It was really cool. But I have to buy one now. They're a little unreliable, but I'm going to have to get one.

Are you talking about not the AMG powered one, but the Aston?

The Aston powered one. What is it? V12 or V8? I can't remember. I think it was the V8.

I think it was the V12.

Vanquished. Okay, so it was a vanquished.

Dude, that car in this similar color to this is one of my favorite cars ever.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was a vanquished, but still just a beautiful car. And I was like, I gotta have one. I gotta do something to create something to get that.

And you've done a great job of building yourself up and creating your channels and other people's channels. He hasn't told you the depth of how big he's created for other people, up to millions of followers for some people. Oh yeah. We could talk about that later too. But he's been extremely successful in this space.

It's been a lot of fun.

Yeah. It's been fun watching him grow too.

A lot of nights. Yeah. A lot of late nights.

Well, do you want to touch on that real quick? We'll put you on pause.

Yeah. Go, go.

Sure, sure.

So I shot photo and video. I was going into college and I was like, what do I want to do? I'm going to college, I guess. I need to figure out something. So I was like, what do I want to do? And I was like, well, I like talking to people. I like being social. It was like against my parents made me do it against my will growing up. So I was like, not a social person. So I was like, this will help me be more social. And so I started doing photo and video and I was at this truck show in Myrtle Beach, North, or South Carolina.

Okay.

I was redneck, big, ever. But I was like, you know what? These truck guys love pictures of their trucks. Oh, wow.

Carolina squat. We're down here.

It was just got banned, by the way. It was just banned, really?

Oh, yes. Thank God. So I laugh every time I see a squatting truck bulldozer. But yeah, this was the era of the beginning of squatting trucks and so I was down there and this kid came up to me and he's like, hey man, I need help setting up my camera. And I was like, oh, for sure. Like I'm a year into this. I'm like, sure. I'll help you get out of auto. And I'm over here shooting like manual mode, like it's cringy, harsh, near color edits and stuff like that. I'm like, yeah, you want to help? And I was like, yeah, you want some help? So I just helped him set up his camera, which is really, really cool. So we stayed in contact and about six months later, he called me, I graduated college and he was like, hey man, I've got a buddy who's like a YouTuber. He's going to be the next big thing. He needs an editor. And I'm like, I only know how to edit pictures. Like I don't know anything about video and stuff like that.

People think it crosses over more than that.

And he was like, no dude, like you're perfect for it. And like, I know you said you wanted to do YouTube because like camera guy's just talking. Like, oh, a YouTuber would be so cool. And I grew up watching YouTube, like daily watching daily vlogs of like Roman Atwood, daily Driven Exotic. So I'm like, I got to do this one day. And I was like, oh, this is like an entry into that world. And so at the time this guy did like hunting content and four wheeler content. And so he was like, hey man, I want, I need an editor, I need a cameraman. And he had the time he had like 500,000 subscribers. And I was like, holy crap. Like I saw his, his money was pulling in and he was like, I'll give you this much money a month. And then like we'll explode. And like, so about two and a half years later, he was at 1.7 million subscribers and we posted during it. So I joined the fall before COVID. We grind it up and about COVID hit and it was like 600K. So I had grown about a hundred thousand. We were like, this is going to be crazy. COVID hit and nobody was allowed to do anything anymore. And so we were like, holy crap, this is, we got to be outside. And so we started making this off-roading content, Mecca. And so everybody's like, this is what they're doing at home because they don't have anything else to do because everybody's stuck home quarantine. And we were like, oh, we're not going to care. So like, let's show everybody that we're still having fun in this crisis essentially. And so we grew, we posted every other day, averaging 600 to 700,000 views every other day. For like a year and a half. Yeah. And we were traveling states, we were collaborating with a whole bunch of people, and we grew from 600K to 1.7 in a year and a half. And so it was just, I mean, it was like sleepless nights. And so after a year and a half of doing the same thing, I was like, holy crap, I'm getting worn out. Yeah. Met a NASCAR YouTuber, Haley Deegan, and I was like, oh, she's traveling. And now I got my mindset of like, okay, I've grinded, I want to go travel now. I've done the same thing over and over again for a year and a half. And so I traveled with her 26 to 30 weekends out of a year for a year. And I was like, oh my God, this is way too much.

This is crazy.

Like, this is crazy. And so I reeled it back after that and just kind of, I was like, you know what? I miss freelancing. I miss making my own schedule. And I was like, step back from that. And since then, I've got several different clients I go to a week. I create my own schedule. I travel with my wife. And so she's-

I called him. I'm like, hey, do you want to just turn the camera on Tuesdays and do dumb s***?

Yeah. So like Taco Tuesdays, we got tacos every Tuesday. And we just created this. And with several people, I've created this cool connection world of like, hey, Brad, you should meet Vinny. Vinny, you should meet Brad. I'm like trying to intertwine my whole world and stuff like that. And so now it's grown to this cool media company I didn't mean to create. Yeah.

Vinny has his own YouTube channel that's pretty big, too.

Yeah. Do my own YouTube channel and help out my friends with theirs and be a character and stuff like that. So I was like, I'm getting to live that world that I wanted to live in, in so many different aspects. Vinny is a car guy. He's a developer. He's like does all this cool stuff with planes and all this stuff. Brad's off-road racer, they build custom cars. So I get that world. I go to SEMA. Then in my own world, I get to travel and meet cool people all across the country. So I'm getting the best of all of it. So it's really cool.

He comes to a development meeting one time, and because we're mostly doing car stuff, but he's in my office and after I was pitching to this guy, I was like, after we're done, I'm like, do you know who that was? He's like, no. It was one of Robert F. Kennedy's relatives. You know what I mean? What? I was like, oh s***, okay, I'm pitching to him right now. He was looking at buying some more buildings. The cool thing is he comes in, he's totally unassuming, but if you hear his rap sheet of what he's done, it's incredible what he's built. Then all the experiences he's got to have between hanging out with me or Brad or whoever. It's like, if I was a kid and I would be like, holy crap, that would be amazing to be this guy right here.

It's been really cool. It's like he said, the relative of RFK, or we went to SEMA the other year and the creator of SEMA Sun, is good friends with a friend of ours. He's like, hey, I have this really cool person you guys are going to want to meet. I will walk up and it's Cody Walker. I'm like, okay, this is crazy. I know so many friends of friends and stuff like that. I think that's one of my specialties. I get to offer to people that I work with. It's like my connection list too. So it's pretty cool.

Well, I kind of have a similar story where it's like, that all came from a camera.

Exactly.

I was generous to somebody, but just good intentions.

You never know what things will lead to.

Dude, the biggest thing I tell people, so detailers and photographers, by the way, don't you get into rooms you should not be in and you get to meet crazy people. But I used to go to car meets and then I would find people's Instagram tags. I don't know if you did the same thing. It's like, just, hey man, can I just email you a full res photo? That's how I built up my client list.

That's how I met Vinny.

I was like, can we just shoot this after? Yeah, you did. Cars overheating and he's like, yeah, we can go take some pictures real quick. We went out and shot some pictures and then here we are. Yeah. Crazy.

That's freaking cool.

It's cool.

Cool world. Cameras, cameras and cars.

Cameras and cars. He's in here so much and in my life so much. We come in, we open this garage and we're in here with these cars.

You were far from here by the way?

I was like 20 minutes down the road.

Yeah. So he's in here. We're both just totally desensitized in this lifestyle, right? Because we look at each other and we're like, can we pinch ourselves?

Yeah, we got to reel each other back into your eye.

We're still those little kids, those little broke kids that just are so excited about cars. Then we walk in here like, let's go rip that thing today. Yeah. In fact, you got in it the other day and you're like, I remember why I don't ride in this anymore.

Yeah, it makes you sick.

Wait, he doesn't ride in it anymore?

I do, but we were riding in it for a long time and I was like, okay, yeah.

He rode in it on Crown Rally with me for a full day before it broke down.

Yeah, then you went to a chiropractor after.

Well, the thing was, he opened the door to wave the cops after he left Minnesota, and the top of the door, he opened it at like 70, and the top of the door- The top of the door-

I was waving to the cops.

Came off or something. We missed a part and it was just flapping the whole rest of the time. You got 500 horsepower in your left ear and now you got a flap. It's a whole experience.

This was back when this car had problems. The car has been sorted in recent years. But literally, you can't make this s*** up. I'm driving it on Crown Rally and we're in a pack of five cars and the car breaks down into a funeral home. Literally dies in the backwoods of middle of freaking nowhere. I rolled and I'm like, where am I going to pull over? I pull over to the left and I'm like, this is a funeral home.

How fitting.

I spent four hours at a funeral home. All these people were coming to look at the car because it's broken down out front. Would you like to come over for dinner? They're all backcountry farmers. I'm like, are you having me for dinner or are you having me over for dinner? Some of the places we drive through, it's like.

Oh yeah.

It's kind of like dealerships. Sometimes they'll have a nice car to get people into a dealership. I'm just saying, great advertising.

Great advertising.

Oh my God, that's hilarious.

I did Crown Rally again the next year in my other GT40. I had a Mark 1, it was a dark gray, and I did 2,700 miles in six days in that GT40.

That was sick.

Okay.

It was crazy.

Okay, because I'm going to lose this question. What's the difference between a Mark 1 and a Mark 2 then?

There's quite a bit of differences. So the Mark 1 was the first gen design of the GT40. The Mark 2 has better cooling. So if you look at a Mark 1, it has a single side scoop. It has less cooling for brakes and whatnot. It does have other... But this one, you can see it's got the dual scoops. I mean, I did a whole video on my YouTube channel, because I owned both at the same time. And I walked through all the differences. It's actually pretty interesting.

Okay, that's really cool.

So if you want to check it out, you can watch that.

I was looking at your channel a little bit more yesterday because I've only known you through Instagram. I'm like, oh, he has a YouTube channel.

What the f***? We just started for fun too. And it's been, we've done a lot of really cool s*** on there.

Hey, man, if all of our Instagram followers would go and see the YouTube channel, that would be great. It's hard to get it to transfer.

We get the comments a lot that's like, this is really underrated because we're not promoting it. I really don't care. Literally, we do it just to have fun and we just bring a camera.

That's usually the best stuff though. That's how stuff grows. I held down this all the time. I'm like, people give me suggestions on who to have on, the length of the podcast. I'm like, I'm going to do what the f*** I want. Like yesterday, we talked to the Porsche guy. Last week, our episode with the monster truck chick. It's like, dude, I saw that. I'm just interested in all this. I just want to learn.

Well, it's so funny too because I've seen people on your channel. I'm like, s***, I've been following that person forever. It's interesting to hear a long-form version of what that person is all about.

Going beyond the meat. That's literally what the back of the shirt says. That was the whole thing because you go to a car show, you talk to somebody for five, ten minutes and then somebody's like, hey, Vinny, takes you away from that person. Or the only time I would really get to talk to people is if I go to dinner with them. What else do you get to sit down for two hours and get to know someone too? It's weird because most people never reach out to me to talk about an episode, but they'll reach out to the guest to be like, hey, dude, I saw you on there. That's awesome, blah, blah, blah.

When ours fires back up, we'll have you on as a guest because that's what this is. This is my GT40 and then it says W-Y-D-D. It's not what would Jesus do. That's so funny when you spell it.

It's D-J-E-S-U-S.

Although, if Jesus was here, he would probably choose that car. So it's What's Your Daily Drive was the name of my podcast. It was actually talking to entrepreneurs. We did seven episodes. We've temporarily paused it so I can refocus on the business.

It's tough.

We have a lot going on right now in the development world. But yeah, when we fire it back up, we'll have you guys on. It'd be great.

It's like kind of a play on daily drivers and like what you're, it's really good.

It's actually not about cars.

Especially when you say entrepreneur thing too. It's what drives you.

Yeah.

But it just plays into this. So anyway, yeah.

I like it.

It's pretty fun. It's fun.

Yeah.

All right.

What are you proud of?

Oh, I forgot.

He thought he was going to get out of that question.

So I've tried a lot of things in my life and I've built a life I'm really happy with. Right. And I, but I don't feel like I'm anything special. I got to put one pant leg on, you know, at a time. Like everybody else.

You want to just jump into both.

There's got to be a better way to do this.

Yeah, wait, hold on. You got more money. There's got to be a better way.

Nope.

One leg at a time. Damn it. But, you know, it's funny because we were. We're looking at this picture that one of my followers painted on the back wall. And my dad, when I was five, he had his first heart attack. I'm 43 now. And he had 72 heart attacks before he died. Some very major, put him in the hospital for a long time, some minor. He was a big loving Italian guy, but his saying was, if you're not having fun, what the hell's the point? And I always lived by that saying. And I'm proud of the fact that I, as traumatic as I'm finding out that was, as a kid reviving your dad all these times, thinking that's normal life, right? I'm proud of the fact that I was able to live out, instead of living like this, like scared, worried lifestyle about watching him die so many times and bring him back. Instead, I chose to just do everything. That's why I've been a pilot. That's why I've been in the army. That's why I drive cars. That's why I enjoy, I mean, these cars aren't about like, hey, look at me. These cars are about, dude, I just fell in love with the driving experience of that. And I want to get out and drive. It just happens that it's also cool. You know what I mean? Like that's, that's, so I don't know. I mean, it's kind of like, I'm just kind of proud of everything that's kind of come to a tee at this point in my life, I guess. Also, I'm really into people.

Yeah.

I like talking to you guys. I like having 200 people sit in that car.

Dude, you gave us a f***ing hug when we came here. I was like, who's this man, Western mother f***er?

He's shaking my hand. I'm like, good to see you.

I think that's one of the people that are really into rally stuff. I think a lot of them are people, persons, right? That is one of the... You want to go out and drive your car all day, but let's be honest that afterwards, you get to your hotel, you're freshen up, you want to get down to the bar, have a drink, get ready for dinner. And then it usually ends up out by the cars, you're drinking beers out of the trunk of a Minviya pictures of a friend sitting in the frunk of his R8 with a cooler and we're having a great time. I've done rallies before, I had one where we didn't get back to the hotel till like 8 and then dinner was at 9. I was like, no, this needs to be done at like 5, 6, 7 o'clock, we're ready for beers. We're going to talk about all the s*** we almost hit, all the cops we outran and all the stuff that happened during the day.

Allegedly.

Yeah.

We've been on rallies that have run long and I'm like, okay, we've driven enough, I've driven for eight hours already today. What's the most direct route?

Oh, cool.

It cuts off two hours.

Good.

I get there and I've gotten old-fashioned and there's a couple of other guys that followed me and we're having the best time because we've already done eight hours of driving. I don't need to do 13. You know what I mean? So I'm with that's great.

It's not eight hours of cruise control in a cannery.

It's not. I am tired.

There's different rally people too. There's people that we had the front of the pack, the back of the pack, in the middle of the pack. I am definitely one of those people that I need to be in the first few cars.

Listen, you sons of b****** up there, because I usually like to be in the middle or the back. Because the amount of cops, last week I was on course and I'm like, that's the eighth cop I've seen in five miles that's waiting for me to come around the turn.

You almost want to be, middle is not bad, but you don't want to be at the back, because now all the cops are on fire.

If you get caught in the back and you can't catch up, because the cops are everywhere.

Yeah.

The front people are the ones that are alerting everybody. They're calling, all of the Karen's have called now. Everything is on fire.

Yeah. I was at a gas station one time on Crown Rally, and I was in the back of the pack. It was a 2,700 mile road trip. And this lady runs out of the gas station screaming at me, like screaming. She's like, I'm calling the cops. I'm like, for what?

She's like, you're one of them.

I'm like, I'm doing the speed limit the last hour. What are you talking about? But I'm getting her a** up and pulled over in the back. And then I'm like, I've done nothing wrong, but then I'm like, but you tell all those guys up there, it's like, I don't know them. We have the same sticker, but I just met them today for the first time.

It would have happened all the time, dude. Well, even on our small ride, it's like, yeah.

You want to know where the limit of setting the cruise control is in this car? I think it's 150. Anything after that, it won't make you sick.

I didn't even know you could set cruise control that fast. That's awesome.

By the way, when I first bought this, I was used to the radar cruise controls, so I set it and I was getting really close on the tail of this truck and the car wasn't slowing down. I'm like, why isn't it slowing down? I just slam on my brakes. I'm like, oh, that's a good way to find out I don't have radar cruise control. I almost wrecked it. I was on the way back to the dealer when we bought it. Remember when we went up there?

Oh yeah, I forgot. Yeah, you almost crashed it.

He was following me in my F350.

For the things that Ford has in like the 2020 and up, some of the bells and whistles, this does not have those.

I would get in his F350 Platinum and I was like, man, this thing is nice. I get in that, I'm like, where's my cruise control? Why do I not have SYNC 3? What is going on here?

Well, the 0540D doesn't have anything. It doesn't even have cruise control in it.

Doesn't have cruise control?

No. I drive it on Corsa Rally and I'm like, damn, there's a 10-mile-an-hour window in that car, because number one, you can't tell how fast you're going, so you have to constantly pay attention. But when you're doing 13 hours of driving in a day, your foot control-

He's got a machine back there in his gym that just works out for anything.

My knee will get sore, my ankle starts to hurt just from driving that much, and doing that kind of driving.

And when you're in a manual, you can't do them both.

He was saying something about the other, just yesterday, he was like, yeah, I looked at one of those cars, the only kind of manual-

GR Corolla.

He's like, I think it would have been cool to daily drive. I was like, have you ever driven one in traffic, because you'll hate every single moment of it. It sucks so much.

Yeah. Do it, do it.

Especially, that's probably, those are old cable-driven and all that stuff. Things are even worse.

Everything is mechanical.

Yep.

Yep. The 350R felt like it was by wire or something.

Yeah, the 350R had a very-

They're a hydraulic clutch, and yeah, they're a lot nicer. Yeah, yeah.

That trim it.

There was something about that attack, like it would kick it, like you had the pedals all the way out here, and then it goes, oh.

It was pressure, pressure, and then stiff.

Yeah.

Like it was, it was cool.

This is like fully, this is so easy, it engages right away. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

The cable is a little bit better for that kind of feel.

Yeah.

You have to get used to where, because every clutch kind of lets go at a different spot.

It does.

Yeah.

It does. Yep.

But when you drove the 350R hard, it was the perfect pedal for it.

Yeah, it was great. Yeah. Yeah.

Because you could just like let up right until that mesh point, and then you're just grabbing another gear, and it was, it was fun. Good car.

Yeah, sorry, we totally got off topic.

Is that time?

I'm very proud of Ford.

This has been my favorite podcast so far.

We've talked Ford the whole time. Yeah.

And we've had a Ford engineer on.

That's awesome.

Dude, I keep looking at this car. It's like they could release this today.

Yeah, they could.

They really could. You would not have guessed that it's a 20 year old car. There's only a handful of cars. The Viper is one of them. It's timeless. Sorry, Gen 5 is timeless.

Gen 5, yeah.

It's like, man, this is funny.

It is funny that two of my pick threes are in this garage right now. Pretty much. I think I said the second gen of that, but after hearing the things I've heard, I would go back to that and then throw a diesel in that and we're on.

Which I just sold.

Yeah.

I just sold my diesel version of that.

Yeah.

But that is there's something, you check that out after, if you haven't gotten to see or like mess around with one.

Oh, yeah.

They're awesome trucks.

I love them. My wife wants one really bad.

Yeah.

Pretty sweet.

Inside, they're very luxurious.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's going to surprise you.

Is this the same one that we wrote in with Garrett?

No, that was a Super Baja. That was the Super Duty one.

Okay.

That was another thing we ended up, which is some people in Vegas and this guy who showed up at a table and the people we were with were just ripping him. Like, it was like he was, I was like, who is this guy? Like, they must not like him at all. Well, it's American Muscle HD.

Oh, yeah. I know him.

Yeah. They did not know that these guys like that. Yeah, Garrett. Huge following. And then we're like, all right, we're going to go to this hotel, which is across the street, by the way. But no, we're going to go out front and get in a Shelby Super Baja who somebody had borrowed to Garrett. And we drive across the street in it, about eight people inside the actual cab. Two or three in the bed of the truck.

That's awesome.

Yes. I'm like, why? We could have walked here faster than what we just did.

Pay for parking at a different place.

Yes. And then we just rip out at valet and they take the truck away.

It was pretty awesome. Well, as we start to wind down, there's anything else you guys wanted to touch on? I think we covered about one of 14.

You did say 14 hours.

I think we could make a 14-1-2. Well, I think we'll be excited to have you guys come down. I'm looking forward to building our relationship. I really love meeting you guys in person and we'll get you down here for the unveil of the GTD and then I think maybe what we can do, and you tell me, it might not fit your channel, but post 6,000 mile US tour, maybe we sit down again and we'll do an episode on it. Yeah.

Are you going to come up through the north side of the states or probably not?

Yeah, we're going to Detroit. But I don't know, the problem is, I don't know how much time we're going to have because I feel like we're going to spend a lot of time there.

Do you know how long the trip is going to, you're thinking about scheduling a trip for how long?

It's like 16 or 17 days total. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's one point where we're going to have the wives fly out to Colorado and meet us, and then do a day or two there, and then get back out.

Do the freaking postcard thing, man.

That's a great idea.

I love that. We'll have to make posters from each.

That would be awesome.

Or movie posters even.

I'll take those pictures down. We'll do a GTD wall next.

I'm just saying how cool would it be, dude, is if you go to one of these meets like Utah or Colorado, and a kid sees the GTD, and then Pikes Peak, that could be their poster, dude.

That'd be awesome.

Sell them for like a cost or something.

Yeah, we'll do movie posters. We'll do it.

We'll do it.

You know how Whistling Diesel killed the strike card, and he does little boxes of sending out the parts? Something like that.

It'd be a great thing we could offer as a thing people could buy to help with some of the cost of the trip too.

That's very true.

We're also thinking about doing a wrap on the car that would be like all the places we're stopping or something, and we can put, I don't know, we're kicking around all sorts of ideas. Yeah.

We've got a friend of ours back home that does a lot of burnouts, and during COVID he did this birthday burnout thing. He's got a Z28 set 427 Camaro, a 5th gen.

Are you talking about Paul?

Paul.

Do you know Paul Rodi? Yeah, he's a Crown guy.

Yeah. He's always got a different NASCAR style, wrapped Camaro.

Oh, awesome.

Anyway, he goes through tires like you would not believe. So when he has kids that will hit him up on Instagram or whatever, he'll just send him one of his old tires. He just ships it to him. He's like, here you go.

That's awesome. Yeah.

I mean, what else can you do? I think it's probably actually a s***** thing. It's probably an EPA thing. He probably should get looked into for that. It's a good way to get it with the tires because they cost you money.

I want to figure out a place to wrap on the GTD too so people at RideNet can sign it.

Yeah.

Like we do at the Ford GT with the right side, how many people sign it. We're going to do in the GT40. He just thought of this the other day. I've had so many people have the biggest smiles riding in that. Underneath the door, we're going to do a wrap with some hard back so I can later frame it, but everyone that rides in it signs the GT40, stuff like that. It's just fun.

Just got to tell them, make sure you sign right there. No, I don't have to get clean.

I'm going to ride in. I'm just going to sign right on the dash.

Right next to Shelby.

Yeah, absolutely.

Dan was here.

I was going to say the little window on the back where the coilovers are or whatever, just do expo.

Oh, that's wipe off.

Yeah, that's not bad.

Or just hit it with some PPF.

Or PPF something.

It'd be cool if you could wrap around the back seat.

Yeah.

We'll explore this more.

He doesn't want to not be able to see the cantilever suspension.

Yeah.

But if I looked in the rear view mirror, I saw cantilever suspension and signatures.

That would be pretty dope.

Maybe you could do it on the DRS too. I don't know.

Open sign.

Not sign. Sign, not sign. Well, cool, man. On that note, do you want to pop the usual three?

Yeah. This is going to go on for a while anyway.

Yeah. That's not going to be a Minnesota goodbye type episode.

All right. So at the end of every episode, we like to ask our guests or guests to pick three cars. I need a daily driver, a track car, and a show car.

I've always been wanting to ask this. I've always seen the ones that like on TikTok where they're like, all right, what's your dream three car garage? I've always, I've never had the chance to answer that.

Oh, hey, by the way, you have an unlimited budget. Money is no object. Swaps, whatever you want.

What was it?

Track car, daily driver and show car.

Okay, so daily driver RS3, the new gen RS3. Very, I'm very in love with the Quattro and you know, all that stuff. And they fixed the Haldex and stuff like that. So daily driver RS3 for sure. Track car. That's so hard. There's a lot of cars out there. I'm going to skip to the show car. And I think show car slash mountain car. Can I do that? Yeah. 997 Turbo S. 997 Turbo. Yeah. I think that'd be perfect. And then track car. Holy crap. That's hard to think about. Probably 350R.

350R.

Yeah.

So yeah, that's my three. I think that would be my RS3.

It's a great list.

It's so diverse. It's so crazy. So yeah, I think that's my three cars.

Does a daily have to be practical?

Oh yeah, it's the daily.

We've had some crazy dailies.

You have a crazy daily. It's a GT500.

Two of the cars on my list are sitting behind me. I mean, there's no, like, I have the cars that I would do that with. I mean, GG40 would be my track car, hands down. I've tracked it many, many times. It's phenomenal. I'm glad I haven't died in it. This car. So that's the thing, cause it's like also could be a show car, but these are definitely two that would be in that lineup, the 054 GT and the GT40. A daily is going to really surprise you because it's an Audi RS6. That is my favorite. I'm obsessed. I have not added one yet because that. It's like I can't justify another. It's like when I wanted a Shelby truck so bad, I had the F350 and my wife's like, why don't you just get one? I'm like, I can't justify two trucks. Why do I need two trucks? So I sold that. So it's been really hard because I really want an Audi RS6.

Okay, an Audi RS6 and then a track car.

Ford GT and then a show car.

You could be a truck guy too. I have cars and trucks. I got Broncos, F150s.

You're sick, man.

You're sick. You're sick. You have a problem with that.

Wait, so what are your guys's?

Okay, do we answer this one again? Okay, do I answer?

How many times have you answered it, first of all?

I usually try to like stray away from it, but everyone's like, no, no, no.

Now watch another episode.

It's challenging me. It's like the lady in a taco shop. God damn it.

Do you want me to go first to get you there?

What's a second list for you? You can't say your list you say all the time. I never managed.

I always forget.

Oh, because I was just about to ask. It probably changes all the time. Yeah.

Okay.

Cool. All right, so let's go. So track car, I think it's going to have to be a Viper ACR Extreme today. Show car.

Hey, we'll ask him again after he rides in that today.

Yeah.

Dude, show car. Since I'm here, man. Will Duga has a- Do you know Will Duga by any chance? He has a Ford GT. Okay. I'm pretty sure he still has it. It's, I think, a white with blue stripe. Oh, yeah.

Nice.

Yeah.

I love it.

Yeah. It's such a good car.

Yeah. For example, my friend has a GTSR ACR Viper or whatever. Oh, I just pissed off everybody in a Viper. Sometimes you say a spec wrong and it's a problem.

It's been two and a half hours. You're going to pass.

So yeah, that'd be, let's call that a show car today. I still, wide body Aventador still speak to me. Let's make that a show car today. And then Daily Driver. I'll do Golf R today. Yeah. Last time.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

What did I say last time? RSQ8 again?

I don't know.

I like the understated.

I've ridden really fast in an RSQ8 and it scared the crap out of me. They are insane.

That's what I last said too.

That's awesome.

All right, Dan. Well, my Ford list is GT40, yeah.

I'm sick.

Keep telling me.

He's sick.

It's right behind me.

Yeah.

It's 0506, Ford GT, track car. Daily driver is a Shelby Super Baja because I'm a big diesel truck guy. And then I want a 71 Torino Cobra, but I love the old Ford FE stuff. It's cool, but it needs to be swapped. I want it Predator swapped. Maybe GTD swapped. Like just, I want the cantilever suspension. I want all of that in it. Restomod 71 Torino Cobra.

That'd be crazy.

You know what I should do? I should put together a knot, like I cannot pick a blue oval car and put a list together that way.

They have pills for you, Dan. They have pills to fix your problem.

There's a hotline.

I do. I really like the R8s. I would love to have like an Enthimoto built twin turbo R8.

They're fantastic.

Would be like, that's like an ultimate.

They have done twin turbo GTs.

Yes, I've seen that.

I've heard a twin charge one. There was a guy on Crown Rally that had a twin charge one.

Yes, there was.

Twin turbo.

You just drive it at the top of the line, top of the limit.

Insane.

I can't wait to talk to Aaron about GTs. He's like a Viper shop. Dude, they have a special place in his heart. We'll be having him on soon.

Awesome.

You wouldn't really light him up sometimes. Start talking about the old Shelby Daytonas, the Dodge ones. He has a weird obsession. Affliction for those.

Oh, well s***, man.

Where can people find you? Do you want people to find you?

Yeah. I mean, at VinGiggs, across all platforms.

Cool.

Apparently, I have a TikTok.

Yeah.

I can't even get to download on my phone now. I don't know what happened, but Instagram is primary. I do respond to people.

Okay.

If you add me as a friend on Facebook, I probably won't see it because I don't use Facebook, but my Instagram automatically post there.

I was surprised how quickly you got back to me.

Yeah.

Instagram, I'm very active. Then YouTube, same thing. I think we change it to at VinGiggs Garage.

I think it's VinGiggs Garage because we're doing VinGiggs as the podcast. Yeah.

Then you've got a couple.

I've got my photography media company page as MC Production Garage. I started that way back in the day.

I do follow you. Yeah.

I do pictures every now and again. I haven't posted in a while because I've been focusing on my personal brand, I guess, which is For The Clip. It's like if you're going to do something, you might as well do it For The Clip. So that's my personal have fun page. And then I think that's about it.

YouTube. And then I have YouTube, a big YouTube, MC Production Garage.

Yeah. Same thing as my Instagram. So we have a lot of fun. Yeah. Absolutely.

Cool.

Cool.

Dan.

You can find us at Gunna Garage on all things or Mr. Gunna Garage on Facebook.

Or working as a professional sweeper here.

Yeah.

That's one thing like I am a car guy through and through. I'm good at this stuff. I like to drive cars. I love all this s***. I suck at social media and I want to get into it. It's like I can't.

He already does so much.

I want it bad, but I just can't. But I shine in other places.

I love it.

He shines.

He's a shiner.

I love it.

Perfect.

Well, thank you very much for coming on, guys.

Yeah.

Vinny. Uh-oh.

Miller. Miller. Yeah.

You get two half hours in. I know what you were doing. You were thinking of his last name going, because you were so set on getting his last name right last time.

Yeah.

I saw the mirror in your eyes.

That's usually somebody's last name.

So I assume that's what it is.

Well, yeah, because like that, my wife said you can't trust people with two first names, so you must be super trustworthy.

Yeah.

Trust him with my life.

Yeah. Trust him with the car. Yeah.

Awesome. Well, Dan, thanks for existing and we'll see you all next time. Thanks again for watching the show, guys. Be sure to go into the description down below and check out all of our sponsors. They are what make this show possible. It allows us to travel the country and talk to some really cool guests. So be sure to check them out, support them just like you support us, and see you all next time.