168. Fast Street Cars, Racing and Hosting Events, The Future of Racing w/ Chase Lautenbach

I don't think people realize, like, how fast that is. Like, it's easy to just throw those numbers out. Brother, if you've never been, like, 200 in the quarter, it is an experience unlike nothing else. And it's scary, like, that is a, it's a real thing. And if you're not scared, you haven't been fast.

Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Minnoxide podcast. I'm your host, Harris, AKA Minnoxide, man of many automotive aspirations. And I'm here with my Ford Loving Co-host, back at SEMA, third year in a row, doing podcasts in this beautiful hall, which will not be disclosed.

Our secret spot.

Our secret spot. And today, this has been kind of like a long time coming. We're here with Chase Lautenbach, owner of Street Car Takeover and Race Ready...

Autosports.

Autosports. Got it. Okay, anyways. So go ahead and tell everybody a little bit about yourself, who it is that you are, and we'll just kind of go from there.

Yeah, absolutely. So Chase Lautenbach, been in motorsports for a long, long time, a bunch of different outlets. So a lot of people probably know me from 1320 video. And then from there, we split off from 1320, started Street Car Takeover. We are the largest street car drag racing series in the country. So we travel all over the country doing about 20 races a year. And then from there, just from my car habits, you know, we started buying and modifying a bunch of different platforms, and I would flip in and out of them all the time. And so that kind of started Race Ready Autosport. So now we build, sell, and race some of the fastest street cars in the world.

Okay, so, okay, I actually didn't know you guys had that many events a year.

Oh, yeah, we do a lot.

So, okay, I know I've seen like the main ones, right? Like, I think you used to have, so you like Rockingham, you just did Nashville, like just all over the place.

Charlotte, yeah, Z Max. So, yeah, we go to a lot of the big facilities all over the country.

Sure. So, okay, what year did this all begin, roughly?

Oh, so year, it was, let's see here, 2014.

14? Okay.

Yeah, 2014. So we got the idea in 13, put it together, and we kind of took off in 14. So we've been doing it for a long time now.

So at that point, what were you guys doing? Were you doing anything differently than other events, or what was the goal?

I mean, kind of, yeah. So like Street Car Takeover, we were the first event to like offer roll racing at a drag strip.

Oh, really?

Yeah, so we were the first ones to actually do that on a drag strip. Sure. So that kind of separated us and kind of took off. You know, it works really, really well for street cars. Guys love it. And it's like bringing the highway to the track. So yeah, it was kind of a cool concept and it just took off, man.

So yeah, they seem to be adding that on. What was it? We were at Street Car Bragging Rights. And I think that was like the first year they've been doing it for a year or two. So it seems to be becoming way more common.

It is, it is. And guys love it. You know, like a lot of guys with like street car stuff, they don't want to break their cars, right? And we're known for having really, really good track surfaces. So like we bring in our own track prep crew to every single race we go to. So we like our racers to have like a consistent service. And brother, like, if you're not ready for it, you are going to break everything. Like it is like our guys' mission to break your car. So like the tracks are good. So like you're either going to go or you're going to break something. So the roll racing is kind of easier on that. Cause you know, like you get these guys with like a, you know, C6 Z06 and you know, it makes a thousand horsepower, but the rest of the driveline, like axles are stock and stuff. And it's just like, well, okay, well, fast car can't really dig race. So roll racing, it works.

Sure.

It makes it, you know, you want this event to go on all day or all weekend. So if you're not, you know, in a car breaks, that kind of sucks. Cause and it sucks for the fans too, or wherever's watching. Cause like, okay, now that's, you know, right. Then they're out for the weekend. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

What's it like when we brought his 14 year old daughter over and it's like, all right, okay. We'll wait 20, 30 minutes or just like it's, I don't know. It's, it's cool. But so before you did the whole Street Car Takeover thing then, so what's your history before that? Cause that's like, I, that's where my blinders are.

I have one more quick roll race question. Can I ask that real quick? What's it like scouting for a track then? Because most drag strips are not laid out great for like a good shot to start off with.

Right. I mean, we pretty much make it work wherever we go.

Okay.

There are a couple of tracks where we have to like move a starting line up a little bit. But I mean, for the most part, it's pretty easy at every facility we go to to get going like 40 miles per hour. So we try to stay around the 40 mile per hour starting point. It gets a little bit dicey at some of the facilities that try to get a car up to 60. So some of them do, you know, honestly, like the roll racing stuff, 60 is like a normal starting speed, right? But at some of the facilities, you just can't do that. So we try to keep it 40 and keep things consistent, stuff like that. So like, you know, if we have the fastest guy ever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, they started at 40 as well.

Sure. Actually kind of touching on that. How about rules wise, right? Cause like the whole roll racing thing can get really messy and playing games and all that. Do you guys experience any of that?

Yeah, we do. So like roll racing is tough because it's one of those deals, like it's not scientific, like you can't make it perfect. And there's absolutely a way to play the game, like there really is. And so if you do it enough, you can get really good at playing the game. And the other guy has no idea what he's up against when you get like an experienced roll racer, which is, it's funny to say, but like there are guys that take it very, very seriously. So which is good and bad, because like I said, you know, like that's why God made drag racing, right? Because like from a dig, we got the timing sensors or we got everything in place, the lights, everything. So like it is scientific. There is like, there's a clear cut winner. You can't cheat the lights. You know what I mean? And so it's one of those deals where roll racing, there's absolutely a game to play. And rules are tough for it. So basically what we do is we have all of our guys sign up and we run a few rounds of qualifying, and then we split them out into three or four classes, depending on their trap speed. So there are still guys that play games, but like the thing is, you know, our guys and our announcers, like they're up in the tower and they can see the computer and we can tell like, brother, you know, if you're trapping 140 to the 8th, and then you're only going 150 to the quarter, like we know you're out there playing games, but like you probably shouldn't be in this class. So we'll kick you out. So yeah, we'll kick you out. We don't want people out there like puppy kicking classes, cause then it's not fun. So we do have our unlimited class, which is called King of the Bakery, cause it's roll racing. And there's guys that go out there, man, they'll trap over 200.

So King of the Bakery. Well, like Dan said, just before we started, we've been trying to attend every event, and it's like Street Car Takeover has been on our thing. Kansas is not that far of a drive for us. So that'd be the perfect one.

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, flying H in Missouri.

Well, do you have, so I always like to ask this question too, because people think unless you have a 3,000 horsepower car, you're not gonna be able to go to this. But we've been to plenty of events where you've got 10, 11 second cars even. So do you have all that kind of stuff? So let's say I want to bring my GT 500 down, I got maybe 800 wheel, you have classes for all that kind of stuff too.

Yeah, we got a spot for everybody, man. That's the cool thing about Street Car Takeover. So the 18 year old kid that saves up every penny he has and buys a Gen 5 Camaro, right? We have a spot for him to start racing and to learn how to do it with real payouts, real trophies, people in the stands. You get the same feeling, especially when you're first starting, right? Like the small tire guys, like our small tire class has been insane and our street racer class is insane. I mean, we have literally our street car guys. I think our record right now is in like the 670s. So like for a street car. So and then we have small tire guys. I mean, there's been multiple passes this year where guys have been in the threes. So to the 8th. So we got a spot for the kids that are just learning and for full on pros, man.

Yeah, OK.

So yeah.

What about the adults that are still learning?

We can do that too. We can do that too. And I think that's like the coolest thing about SET, right? It's one of those deals where everybody at the track, like we're all car guys, man. There's not a stupid question. Like the thing that I like, I try to like show people is I'll get guys that come up all the time and they'll be like, hey, man, I have a really stupid questions. Like, brother, it's not a stupid question. Like you don't know until you know. So like, let's get out there, learn how to race, and then you can do it anywhere, man.

Unless you're in a draggy forums, there is a stupid question.

Absolutely, yes, dude. That place is a dumpster fire.

Yeah, it is.

Oh my goodness, man.

It's entertaining, though.

It's super entertaining.

They finally stopped talking about the ZR1 and GTD, like as much as it was. It was just like every two minutes, it was just a one-nose post, but f****** wild. Okay. So then, what's your next event?

So we actually have one coming up, not this weekend, but next weekend.

Sure.

So we'll leave straight from SEMA to go to Phoenix.

Okay.

So we'll be at Firebird out there. I think it's like, what's the 14th or the 15th? Is that the dates? Yeah. 14th to 15th of November.

So it's pretty spread out then. So what, 20 events a year? So every other week sort of deals that you try?

Pretty much. I mean, yeah, there are some like, when we hit our busy point of the summer, like peak race season, I mean, man, there'll be times that I've like, you know, we've been doing this for a while now. There'll be times where I'm not home for like four weeks. I'll be gone for like a whole month.

So yeah, I was going to ask that because we've seen these operations go down. That's a lot of planning things set up. There's people, you must have a pretty good team.

We do.

Yeah.

Cause I mean, all of our guys are solid.

To be kicking them out like that.

Right.

I was going to ask if you even sleep ever.

No.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. How big does your team travel with you? Or how big is your team?

Yeah. Yeah. So it kind of depends on where we're going. So there'll be some events that we'll bring in 20 guys to do an event or there'll be events that, you know, we can get by with like seven because we also use the track staff too. So they kind of like supplement with their staff and our staff. And we got a good working relationship with all of them. So it's pretty good. Yeah.

What's your biggest event? Which track?

Our biggest event. So, I mean, there's a couple that could pop off and be the biggest every year. It kind of just comes down to what's the weather looking like? What other stuff is going on around the event? But if I had to pick one, that's like our biggest without a doubt, like this one just crushes. It's Charlotte, North Carolina, ZMAX, the 4-wide track. It's nuts, man. Nuts. So, it's our dream and our nightmare all in one weekend.

So, yeah, it's insane. That's a bucket list. We haven't been out there yet.

You should come to that one. If you guys want to come to an SCT, I realize that like Flying H might be close. But brother, I'm telling you, ZMAX is worth the trip.

Sure. How far is that from rocking him?

So, I think it's like if you were to leave, so we actually just did that trip, but whenever we're in Charlotte or in the North Carolina area, we'll stay at ZMAX. Sure. Because it's safe and the staff knows us and all that stuff. So, we'll just roll our rigs in, set up, and stay there for a few days and then go wherever we need to go. But I think it's like maybe an hour and a half.

That's not bad.

It's not that bad, no.

Okay. What's the cost to put on that one then?

Lots. It's a big one. Yeah, man, like the first time, the first time we ever went to Charlotte, like I looked at my business partner, I was like, brother, we are betting the farm right now. Like if this doesn't work, we are in big trouble. And like, luckily, it works. Everything went well. And like that's it's a six figure bill for two days. So it's real big, real big. Yeah.

So you do a lot of that, trying to keep like entry fees and stuff. Oh, you get a lot of sponsorships.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah, we have, I don't even know, probably 30 plus sponsors that help us out with everything. So it works out pretty good. We got a lot of good people behind us.

Awesome.

So obviously you have a name at this point, right? Being 11, whatever, years into the game.

Right.

What was the biggest hump in growing this? Does anything come to mind?

Man, the biggest hump, I would probably, I probably just have to say like the logistics side of things, man. Like we were kind of just talking about before, you know, when you're smashing through events all summer long, and you have to like be there really, really quick for the next one and get set up and tear everything down and all that stuff. It's probably the logistics piece of it. That's just a nightmare. But now since we've got enough of them under our belt, like it's gotten smoother. But man, it's it's a lot of moving parts, man. Like people just think like with events, right? People think that we just like make a Facebook group or a Facebook event page. And then this stuff just like goes off. You know what I mean? And it is so far from that. Like there are so many pieces that like to run a good event that people will just never see. So we got guys constantly working out on the back end. It's just, it's nuts.

So, no, that was one of the first things that my mind went to. And thinking about all this stuff, the logistics of things, right? So we've rented tracks even just for like a rally for a simple, just half day for like a private thing. Yeah. And that's a whole bunch of red tape. I can't imagine rolling in with what you're rolling in. And then, you know, insurance, all that crap.

It's got to be a nightmare. Yeah. And it's one of those deals where like, like I go back to our team again, right? Like we have so many good guys that work with us and for us. That like they just they go in, they knock it out, they know their job, and then we roll out. And it's just been like, it's been solid. And it's taken us a while to find those people. But now that we got them in, I'll put my team up against anybody. Yeah. So, yeah.

Okay. So what are your thoughts on cars getting as fast as they are? Are you nervous about it at all?

Yes, a little bit. I mean, eventually, like we were talking about this the other day. Eventually, like, where does it end? You know what I mean?

I think about that all the time.

Right, right. I mean, eventually, physics has to take over, right? Like, it's one of those deals where like, they're getting so fast and it's so easy now that like a thousand horsepower is just like, you know what I mean? Like, it's so easy to do that, that like, it's just wild. Like, so there's got to be a stopping point, right? But I don't know if we're close yet. I really don't. I mean, shoot, man, we got cars out here trying to run four second quarter miles, not eighth miles, quarter miles now, door cars. So it's like, holy cow, man. Yeah, there's gotta be an end. I don't know where it is.

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Yeah, so we've been watching him test for the last couple of weeks, man, and they are, them boys are nuts. Like, I don't think people realize, like, how fast that is. Like, it's easy to just throw those numbers out. But like, brother, if you've never been like 200 in the quarter, like, it is an experience unlike nothing else. And it's scary. Like, that is a, it's a real thing. And if you're not scared, you haven't been fast.

Yeah, that's scratching, that's getting into pro-mod territory.

Right, right, right. Yeah. And like, the other thing is like, what people don't realize is, okay, the going fast part's scary, right? But the stopping part is the scary part. Like, and if the big end and like stopping doesn't scare you, once again, I'll say it, like, you haven't been fast. So, because that is absolutely the scariest part about going fast is stopping. So.

Who was it a few weeks ago that had, I think they had like a, their parachute failed, and then they had to go use all brakes.

Been there.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you're probably working a lot with like, like the Motion Race Works guys.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, because that's not too far. Well, I guess where are you based out of?

So I'm a little bit everywhere. So we have a place in Omaha, Nebraska, but we also have a place in Oklahoma City, too. So and like we homeschool our kids. So my wife and I, like, we're everywhere. So depending on, like, when what's like going on with the season and stuff like that, I could be at my shop in Oklahoma, or we could be at the house in Omaha because our family's from there.

Sure.

So we're just, we're everywhere, man, all the time. So nailing me down is pretty tough.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Can you go into a little bit on what it takes to create these classes and rules? Because this is like a constant thing that I'm always hearing about. People are b******* and moaning, and then you change things, knock somebody out, and it's just like...

Man, it's one of those deals where like, I've been saying this more and more and more lately, like bro, just get in where you fit in and go race. You know what I mean? There has to be rules, obviously, right? But when people get hung up, I think one of the hottest debates right now in the street car racing world is methanol in street classes or not. And it's one of those deals where me personally, we took methanol out of our street class two or three years ago, and I thought it was so dumb that we did that. And so like this year, I was like, you know what? I was actually riding back from one of our events, and I was just sitting there. I was thinking, I was like, you know what? We're putting methanol back for 26. And the reason for that is like all these guys were like, well, he's on methanol. It's not a street car. It's like, bro, you literally get your E85, like your ethanol. So from a barrel, like all the fast guys, like almost none of them, like 99.99% of the fast guys in our street racer class are getting their ethanol from a barrel anyways. So what's the difference?

Right.

You see what I'm saying?

It's a good argument.

Yeah, what's the difference? So like my car, for instance, you know, my car does run on methanol, but at the same time, like it's got full cooling system, everything. So like I can go and take that car out and drive it on the street. And like it will make a 30 mile street cruise and it's registered, it's insured, it's all those things. So it's one of those deals where like I just don't, I don't understand because if I run out of fuel, like cars on MoTec too, I can literally roll into any gas station and put any fuel in it that I want, might as diesel, obviously, but any fuel that I want in my car will run on that. Now, am I going to go like to Casey's gas station and put it on 87 and go race it? Like, no, but technically my car will run on that. You know what I mean? So it's one of those deals where like, I just don't get that argument. And you know, we've proven that when we took methanol out of our street class, that like the fast guys, they're still going to beat you, okay? Because like, you can take their fuel away, but guys, like we're going so fast on ethanol now, that like, it just, it doesn't matter. Like the fastest guys are going to be the guys that actually put in the work to go fast. And like, you get these guys that race three times a year and expect to run personal best every single time they go, and they whine and complain about the methanol rule. It's like, bro, we will switch them to ethanol and they will still kick your teeth in because they do this every weekend and their program is figured out all while you're sitting here racing three times a year and you expect to be fast every single time you go. It's just not how it works.

Sure.

So yeah.

Well, then that brings up a good, this would be a good question for you. What's your, how do you, my brain's not working from Vegas stuff, but where do you cut the line? What's a street car? How do you identify a street car?

Buddy, that is very gray, very, very gray.

I think one of our best answers so far is Calvo told us, can you valet it at a wedding? That way, that was his definition.

You know, I've known Antonio for a very, very long time. And I like that. But at the same time, like, I don't know, I wouldn't consider my car a street car. I'll tell you that it is. But in reality, it's really not. Like I can't roll my windows down. It's got lexan windows, you know, like it's got a full 25, 3K in it. It's got a five gallon fuel. So no, but the crazy thing is, like, I can still go drive it on the street. It will do it right. But I think like the drag and drive guys, perfect example, right. These guys go out here with like, you know, five second quarter mile cars, and they have to spend two hours getting their car ready to go drive on the street and put it back in street trim. So it's one of those deals like, bro, that is not a street car. Like that is a race car that you built to be able to handle the street. So like, cause dude, like making a race car is not hard, right? Especially nowadays. Like we just talked about that. It's so easy to go fast, but surviving the street, that's tough, man. Like that's, it's tough. But at the same time, cars are getting so fast and you can do both. So it's one of those deals where that's such a gray area that it's hard to answer because everyone's answer has got to be different, right? Sure. So writing the rules for a street racer class is not easy, man. It's not easy. So yeah, it's one of those deals where it's like, Oh, okay, does it overheat? Doesn't overheat. You can drive it on the street. Well, it's a street car. You know what I mean? So like, that's kind of how you got to base it really these days.

So do you look at the rule sets of like other events and then they compare?

Yeah, we do. So like, so we do do that. Yeah. And I think every event does like all the major ones. We kind of all play off each other's rules.

Do you guys all talk to each other or not?

Yeah, we do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So most of the event promoters, we all do talk to each other. Okay. And you know, like, at Street Car Takeover, we think that if we're all doing good, it's good for the sport, right? So like most of us got each other's back. There is a couple that don't, but like for the most part, everybody's cordial, everybody's friends. And it's one of those deals where we do keep our rules pretty consistent with others because we want guys to be able to go race wherever they want, right? You don't want to make your rule set so specialized that they can only race at your race because then that'll destroy car counts. So you got to keep it pretty general.

Yeah, we've talked to people before, like it's just the most frustrating thing. It's like, I want to do this event, but then they change the rules and so we got to do these other two.

And then you got to change the car completely.

So yeah, and that's not cheap, but also takes time and yeah.

Well, the guys that take it super serious, like Aaron from Enth Moto is like the prime example of this and him and I have talked about this a million times. He is so calculated in everything he does with those cars, man, that he will look at the rule sets if he's going to go for a race, and he will completely set up the car to that rules. And with guys like, there's a bunch of guys out there that race, right, and they'll just kind of wing it. They'll show up and wing it, but if it's not exactly perfect, they won't even go. So guys take it super seriously, they really do. Yeah, so.

Yeah, it's a bummer we won't be seeing him at World Cup Finals, but yeah.

I know, I saw that post too, it does suck, yeah. Matt Kratos is a bad, that's a bad dude right there.

That's a bad car.

It's just crazy to think about what that car is, right? The fact it still has AC, you can take the Starbucks.

Well, when I think of street race cars, the Viper has got to be one of the most, I mean, that's the one that comes to my mind, that it looks, they can keep it damn near factory looking and still.

Well, I just sent a photo.

A hot take that in a second. Yeah. So Antonio has been a really, really good friend of mine for a long time. In fact, when you started working on Vipers, I don't even know if he'll remember this, but I remember it. I was standing in my kitchen, Antonio called me, and this is like when he was thinking about moving to Texas to work on Vipers. And he called and asked my opinion about it. And I was like, dude, yeah, I think the platform is awesome. We'll go all in. Do it, bro. You got it. And it's obviously worked out very, very well for him. He's one of the best Viper builders, tuners in the world. But man, those Vipers, I've had a few of them, and they're tough, man. They make those big horsepower numbers, but then you get caught up quick in one of them babies, because like, okay, cool. Your rear-wheel drive car makes 3000 horsepower. Sweet. Where are you going to use it at?

Sure.

See what I'm saying? Like, cars can make all the power in the world, but if it doesn't work, it's not going to be that fast. So, but those guys, like, they got that stuff figured out, man. They're working.

There's a little more finesse to it, right?

There is. Yeah.

I mean, in between Calvo and Aaron, especially, like, you know, like, my experience has only been with Enth Moto cars. Like, as a passenger, right? Minneapolis Mopar, I'm sure you've seen them on socials. And it's like what those cars can do. Like, my first time ever in that car was it was 38 degrees outside.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. And it just well, but that MoTec did its work. Right.

Like, dude, like the MoTec is amazing. Right. But when a car is on the traction control, yeah, it's not putting it all down.

It's not moving. Yeah.

So he can actually put it down will win. Yep. And that's why we like the all-wheel drive stuff, because it works anywhere. Sure. You know, we can definitely make a MoCar or a MoTec car. I mean, do I work on a gravel road? Really? I mean, like, yeah, those guys got that thing figured out, man.

It is really cool, though, because, like, all-wheel drive, it's going to be mid twos all day long at 60 to 130. Right on the street. Right. If we're using that metric, at least.

Right.

The Vipers, you know, it's still like the fastest of the fast. I think there was a two way. I think Antonio's 284, I think I don't honestly.

They're going so fast with all these cars. It's hard to keep up.

You can't keep up with everyone.

60 to 130.

But then you have that whole, you know, then you look at UGR, and it's like, I think it was like 233. It's like full four tenths, which is just insane.

Yeah. But then to guys like us, like at the track, that's slow.

I don't understand. Well, so you look at what Kratos does, 60 to 130 on the track, it's like a full second faster.

Right. Right.

Just f****** insane.

It's wild, isn't it? Yeah. That just shows the difference, though, between like a prep service.

Correct.

And being out there on the street on virgin concrete.

Yep.

So it's tough, man. The guys who are going fast, you got to put in the work, man. That's why there's only a few.

So speaking of unprep services, you do any street racing and stuff like that back in the day?

So back in the day, yeah. Now things have gotten just so serious that we just can't do that stuff anymore. We work with too many partners. We got too much to lose. Like we got kids. Yeah. So not anymore.

That makes sense.

Yeah. In the day. Yeah. Back in the 1320 video days. Absolutely. Yeah.

It's OK to my question from a while back ago. So before Street Car Takeover, where did this all sort of begin? When did you get into the whole car world as a whole?

So OK, so I've always been a car guy. My dad was a car guy. Like I said, I have videos of me and my dad when I'm in a car seat on Road America doing parade laps. Like that's a thing for me.

Yeah.

And so like my dad was always a huge car guy. My dad's always been my hero, too. So like it's been one of those deals where like I was raised up in it. And then how we got real, real deep is I bought an Evo 10 as a daily driver a long time ago. And I was actually at the road course, at our local road course in Omaha, out there messing around. There is a kid that had, oh, he raced in the SCCA. And he was like the current like national like points leader for the SCCA. And he's in his race car. I'm in my street car and we are just going at it. And I ended up blowing up the car. It got a little bit too lean in those factory fuel tanks. It's got a hump in the middle. And I ran it too low on fuel, just not paying attention because like I want to, like we were racing, you know, and blew that car up, ended up building that car. It was the fastest Evo 10 in the world for a long time. It's called the 3DX Evo. All over 1320 video. And that's what kind of like really, really got me in. So at the time, when 1320 video was really, really young, I would travel with Kyle and help film things, help sell stuff with the merch booth. Like I was there at the ground level with 1320. And that kind of like pushed us into Street Car Takeover, I guess you could say. Cause the cool thing was, you know, we were traveling all over the country, working these different events on the backside, like covering it with 1320. And we could kind of see what does work, what doesn't work, what people like, what they don't like. And I looked at Kyle one day and I was like, man, like we should do this. And he was like, oh, well, okay. And we started talking about it. Originally Street Car Takeover was going to be 1320 video invades whatever city. And at the time, man, we just wanted to go race with our friends wherever we could. And we actually got down to like the planning of everything. And we sat there and it was one of those deals where like, there's going back to the, there's so much that goes into throwing events. Kyle looked at it as he goes, I don't want to throw events. I want to cover them. And I was like, okay, well, then we'll throw the events, you cover them and we'll just blow this thing up. So that's where it all really began. So, and then we did a lot of cool racing with the Evo, beat a lot of guys we shouldn't have beat. And it was pretty cool, man. Pretty cool. So that's how everything started. And then from there, I've tried everything now. So yeah, we've had just about every platform to the extreme. So yeah.

So you have an R34 GTR right now.

35.

35. I'm sorry. What is, is that your favorite then? Or what would be, you have a second or what's?

So I always tell everybody that my dream car doesn't exist. I haven't found it. There you go again. Break the microphones, bro. Oh, no. Oh, that was broken. This was planned chaos. All right. So, yeah, I mean, the for me right now, I think the R35 is one of the most capable, bad street cars on the planet, man. They're fast. They work. The only downfall is, is that they can be fragile. So it's one of those deals where like, you got to kind of pick and choose if this is worth it or not. You know what I mean? But yeah, I think the R35 is probably one of my favorites right now. I'm not wild about the car, but I am wild about what it can do for me. And it's been an awesome platform to play with, I can tell you that much.

So yeah. Awesome.

So, then how did the whole Race Ready Autosports thing kick off? How did that, where did that idea come from?

Right. So, okay. So like I said, just from being in this world for so long, and trying so many different platforms, like we've done twin turbo V10s, we've done so Lambos, R8s, Vipers, we've done some BMW stuff, McLarens, Porsches, we've done all that stuff now. And it's been one of those deals where like, we've tried it all, and through my car habits, we would be flipping in and out of these cars all the time, just trying it. And it kind of, people saw me selling my stuff all the time. And a lot of the times, like the cars did very well selling. And so I had a couple of friends that were like, well, like, would you help me sell my car? And it kind of just snowballed from there. So it started off as just like a fun thing on the side. And then now it's like a full blown deal where we have a big facility down in Oklahoma City. We actually just closed on our new facility last Friday. So we have guys literally doing the build out on the inside of the building as we're speaking right now. And like we're bursting at the seams, man. We have so much stuff going on there. It's just wild. But yeah, so like we'll get some of the baddest street cars on the planet because that's what we focus on. Like I was kind of saying before, like we don't, it's very, very rare that I'll have like a stock R8 or a stock Lamborghini. But I think we have like six of them in stock right now. And every single one of them makes over 1500 horsepower. And that's like probably the easiest platform right now to make fast. And the coolest thing about it is, man, you can have a 2500 horsepower Lambo and put your wife in it and take her to dinner and not look like a complete psychopath. Like, like it's a full out race car, you know, like if I were to take my wife to dinner in my GTR, like we could do it. You know what I mean? But like we're both going to be choking out because it's on methanol and the windows don't roll down and it's loud. And it's just, yeah, it's just one of those deals where the V10s are just so easy to make power with. That's the hotness right there, man. That's good stuff right there.

Well, we were talking about this a little bit beforehand because your typical exotic dealership is going to waste your A wave. I mean, if it's got a tune on it at all or anything, they're not willing to touch it. And I think also as a buyer or consumer, you don't want to buy somebody else's build normally, right? Because you're like, you don't know what kind of headaches you're going to get into.

I think that goes both ways though. You know, so I've gotten to the point where like, I just don't want to build anything anymore, man. Like we've been doing this for so long that like the build process for me now is not fun. And I get that like it can be fun for some people, but like I just I don't enjoy that part anymore. So it's one of those deals where like it's easier and cheaper and way faster to just buy something that's already done. You know what I mean? And so we play that game all the time. It's one of those deals where like, you know, you buy a stock R8 and you want it to go make 1500 horsepower. Well, that build process looks over 100 grand. You know what I mean? So you buy the car for 150 ish and then you put another, you know, 100, 150 in it before you know it, you're 300 grand deep in this car, when you could literally have one today that makes, you know, 1600 horsepower on a stock motor, and you can buy those cars now for in the 220s, and it's instant gratification. And there's so many good places now that are doing those types of builds that like, the V10 market with the Huracan and the R8, I think that that platform is literally one of the best things to ever happen to street cars, right? Because like I said, it is so easy to make those cars fast, and there's so many good shops and so many good tuners now that are tuning on those cars and working on those cars, that like, it's not a lot of risk really. I mean, there's a couple of them that I'd say away from. But like, it's one of those deals where they're also pretty hard to screw up too. I mean, like, it's pretty easy. But you can literally throw a turbo kit on a car and make a thousand.

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Like it's just like, okay, like I'll have guys that will buy these cars from us. Car makes 900 horsepower with just a turbo kit put on it. And they're like, well, can I get the build sheet? And I'm like, yeah, we'll get them for you. And they're like, well, is there more? It's like, well, no. Like you literally slap a turbo kit on it, car makes 900 horsepower. It's insane. Like stock trains, stock fuel system, all that stuff. Like just slap on turbo kit.

So before I lose this question. So who does it best? Right? Let's go down this list. Who does it best in the GTR world?

T1.

All right. Lambo R8.

T1.

T1. Okay. Yep. Two for two. All right. Viper.

Ooh. That's a tough one. Cause I love Aaron so much and I love Antonio so much.

Sure.

That's tough.

Have you had any experience with the Nth cars yet?

Yeah, I have. Yeah.

Okay.

Yep. Yep. Sure. And they're both so good.

Right.

It's like, I don't know. I don't know how to answer that. You guys are both my boys. We're going to keep that one there.

Yeah.

Both my boys. We're going to keep that one there.

So, okay. So obviously we have the whole GTR, the Lambo RA and the Vipers. What else is there out there at that caliber? Is there anything that's kind of at that caliber? I know, like, for example, you start talking about like Mark IV Supras. They're like in that 1500, 1600 range.

Once again, you get to that rear wheel drive though. It's tough to put it down.

Right.

So it's tough to put it down. Cards out. I mean, honestly, man, those are the kings right now. R8s, Lambos and GTRs. When it comes to like real deal street cars that are fast, I can't really think of anything else. I mean, I know some of those BMWs are getting quick too, but they're still not anywhere near on the level of those cars.

It's a whole different league.

It's a whole different deal. Yeah, I really can't think of anything else that really touches those three cars. I mean, those two platforms, because obviously, you know, the Huracan, the RA, the same car.

Sure.

So like those two platforms, they're so good. And like I said, there's so many places that have it so figured out now. It's kind of hard to screw it up.

So well, so that my question was going to be kind of similar. When you're looking for these cars to get in for stock or whatever, somebody comes in, whatever is there not necessarily shops to avoid, but would you be okay with buying something from a shop? You may not know well, like obviously AMS T1, things like that, buying something from them, you know what you're getting, right?

Yeah, right.

But you guys are inspecting these cars, and you said, would you stray away from a name you haven't heard? And you guys would look the car over first and then maybe decide?

Yeah, I mean, as long as you look the car over, like I said, it's pretty hard to screw it up. Now, there are some people who can absolutely screw it up, but it's pretty difficult to screw that up. Now, I will say this, we named all the big shops, right? Like T1, SISIO, AMS, like all those guys, all great options, you know? I recently just had a car built by a shop in Florida called 316 Speed.

I've heard of them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And another car from a TBK in Florida as well. And these are my first experiences with both of those cars. And I know the owners. And so I was excited, because I've seen videos and stuff of these cars working well. But it's always one of those deals, like, all right, we've got a new car coming in. Like, you know, when I get a car from Sissy, I know what to expect. When I get a car from AMS, I know what to expect. When I get a car from T1, I know. So like, when we get those cars in from like new shops, like, I was very impressed with both of those cars. And like, you know, 316 has absolutely been making a name for themselves. TBK is pretty new on the scene, I would say. Like mainstream wise, have been around for a while, but they're getting more mainstream now. And those guys are great, too. So it's one of those deals where, man, like, there's so many good places to work with these platforms. Like I said, they're just crushing. All of them are crushing, really.

Well, they're still all dipping into the same parts bin normally, right? I'm sure there's, I mean, you're not putting eBay parts on a freaking car like that, but there's still, like, even in the Ford world, like you have all these great shops are using the top shelf, you know, parts bin stuff.

Right.

So, yeah.

I mean, like, you know, it comes down to the workmanship on the car is really right. Because, yeah, it's one of those deals, man, where, like, pretty much everybody uses the same intercooler cores. You know what I mean? Like, there's only so many ways to run a titanium exhaust on these cars, you know, and you have, like, Precision or Garrett and Zona, maybe. I mean, Zona is getting bigger. I know Sysio uses a lot of Zona turbos, and I think Cavill has been using them a lot, too.

I think he just started dipping into them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they've been working great, too. So, like, there's only a couple of different cores. There's only so many ways to run pipes. And there's really three good turbo options.

So that's the combination to write it's right.

So like when you find the sauce, you got the sauce.

Right.

So why stray from it? Like it's an old saying, why reinvent the wheel?

Right.

You know, like if it works, like, let's go fast.

We can think of somebody that reinvented the wheel for turbos.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. The apex turbos, guys.

The what?

Apex turbo.

OK. Yeah.

Yeah.

I had a few highlights go really freaking viral last year. Basically, they like have the they don't have the not sort of run a turbo and all that. So that got people really heated. But yeah, it's pretty cool. I think they have a booth here at WCF. But anyways, what's the most competitive class? What's your favorite class to watch?

Is there one my favorite? So it's that's tough. So my two favorite, I would have to say, is small tire in our street racer class. You know, one is in, like I said, the line between the street racer class and the small tire class is getting pretty fuzzy. Like it's pretty gray right now. But our street racer class, you know, still a quarter mile class. So they got to run it all the way out the back. Small tire guys, they're getting so fast that they don't want to run to the quarter anymore. Cause it's scary, man. Like I said, like if you've never done 200 plus in the quarter mile, like it is a whole new world up there, man. Like you're going real fast. Like you're just along for the ride at that point. So it's one of those deals where like eighth mile safer. So like, I don't know, me being a dad and stuff like that, it changes the way you think about stuff. And I think that we're going to see, even in street classes soon, I think we're going to see a lot of guys that, you know, when we go back to where does it end? We don't know yet, but I do know that a lot of guys are getting to the point where when they've gone that fast, the shelf life of them going that fast is pretty low. And the reason for that is once you do it a few times, you realize one, what it takes to get there. To go that fast, you can't just slap it together. And then two, how crazy is on the big end up there, how scary it is. And if anybody tells you that 200 miles an hour in the quarter is not scary, they're freaking lying, because it is. It's scary up there. So I think you're going to see a lot of the street classes, I think they're going to start to transition to eighth mile. I really do. It's still super fast, it's way safer. I would rather have a problem like going fast to the eighth than in the quarter. So I'd rather have a problem at 170 over 215, you know what I mean? And that matters. So it's one of those deals where I think you're going to see more of that, especially when cars are getting so fast and we don't know where it ends.

We talked to ARS and I asked them a similar question, you know, quarter mile, eighth mile, and they said they prefer eighth mile. It's not as hard on the car as well. I mean, you literally are almost doubling how many more hits you're going to get out of it.

Yeah, yeah. And I think that's a great analogy. I really do. And a lot of the guys think the same way as well. You know, like it's easier on par. It's safer. It's the racing super exciting still. Like it's, I like it. I like it a lot. So the faster and faster I go personally with my stuff, the more and more I see myself going over to the eighth mile side. And like I said, I think you're going to start to see a lot more of that really.

So well, it's like you look at the record that Cletus did like a week or two ago or whatever, right? That is as as as move and do right, right?

Well, I called Garrett after that, and it's one of those deals where I'm like, man, like, where is it in and like, how does it feel? He goes, man, like, it's just nuts. And it is like there's you really can't even explain it. You know what I mean? Like I said, it is the craziest feeling in the world. And there's so few people in reality, like in reality, there's not that many guys that are really doing that in the street car world. So if you are, you are one of the baddest, and that just is what it is. And it, like you said, the shelf life, you see a lot of turnover there because like, how long do you want to keep doing this? You know? So and then you get guys like Brett LaSalla, that's just, dude, that boy's a machine.

I know.

Like he is a freaking machine. And like, it's like, are you ever scared of anything? Like how fast are we gonna go? Like, you know what I mean? It's like, it's just, it's wild.

You probably see this too. There's a few guys, you kind of look in their eyes, and they're like, they just genuinely have no fear. Like they're just like, let's take this up another notch.

Yeah, I don't know, man. Like, I don't know. I don't get that concept.

Or maybe they're just comfortable with just the reality of what it is too.

Right, right, right, right. Like I said, you know, there's so few guys that do that. And the guys that do, like, we all know each other.

You know what I mean?

Like, we all talk.

You can probably count it on your two hands, maybe.

Yeah, yeah, right, right. So, like, it's a small community. Like, when there's fast guys, like, I always think it's funny. When, like, so, like, oh, yeah, like, my boy, he's got a car that fast. It's like, who is he? And, like, we'll be talking to somebody. It's like, yeah, I don't think, you know, we've never heard of you, bro. And, like, yeah, we would know. And it's one of those deals, man, where, like, there's just, it's a small deal, because, like I said, you got to put in the work. Put in the work to go that fast.

So what about you? Do you do much racing yourself?

I do.

Yeah.

So my car was built at T1. Yep. So I have a GTR built by T1.

OK.

Car is real fast. It's got twin 7275s on it.

OK.

The car makes well over 2,500 horsepower. It's a deal, man. It's fast.

So do you get to run in your own events, or do you go out there and say, OK?

Yeah. And that's the other thing about the GTR, though. I'm going to go back to that platform real quick. When you get to that level of that car, there's so few places to race it now that it's one of those deals where we really have three places a year that we can really race at our full potential with other guys that have those cars. Because like I said, there's so few of us that you can't like, all those guys are not going to follow a series for that platform because, well, one, it takes so much to get the cars there. But then, two, like they're known for braking. I mean, you know, like it's a joke. GTRs brake. It really is a thing. So like there's a lot of downtime for us, too. So it's one of those deals where we really only get to race at three or four major races a year, where we get to like race with other guys in that platform. Sure. And I think that's why I'm probably going to jump out soon and go over to the small tire world when you just, you know, get like a Fox body or a Nova or something like that. And, you know, throw a big block in it with huge turbos and go as fast as you want. And, you know, you get a turbo 400. That's literally a third of the cost, like the baddest 400 on the planet is like a third or fourth of the cost of one transmission for the GTR that breaks all the time. So it's one of those deals where it's like, why are we doing this? But when it all comes together, it's the best thing ever.

Right.

So but it has to come together.

That's what Calvo told us when we were talking about the transmissions for I think it was the Huracan. It's like 80, 90 thousand or something crazy like that.

Yeah. I mean, brother, you can literally these days, like you can literally spend as much money as you want. That is a thing and it's still not a guarantee. Like, you know, Kyle, back in the day, you know, he had his white RA Cosmo 1320 and he would call me frustrated all the time because like I had those cars too while he has them and he would call me and he's like, dude, I keep freaking breaking this transmission. He's like, I'm 70 grand deep in this trans and I can't keep it together. And it's like, well, Kyle, like, have you seen the way you drive? Like you were so hard on that car. And he's like, well, if you spend that much money on a trans, you should be able to drive it however you want. And it's one of those deals where like that math, maths, but at the same time, it can only do so much too. Like Bill, it's only so good. You know what I mean? Like your driving habits really matter when it comes to a car like that. And if you're just out there, you're just hit after hit after hit after hit after hit. Like things are going to break and it is not cheap to fix those suckers. It's great when it's great, but brother, when it's bad, it is bad. So yeah.

What does it take to own a 2,500 horsepower GTR?

Screws loose, a lot of hard work, and a little bit of fear, I think.

Like how much, so obviously you're taking this to however many events a year. Have you had to do any like refreshes or anything like that yet? Oh yeah. Or is it still fresh?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we've broke stuff, obviously. And then at TX UK 24, we were doing roll race qualifying, and we didn't even have the car turned up yet. And we trapped 210 that pass, and I threw my chute, and at Texas Motorplex, up on the big end, it gets really windy up there. Yes, yeah. And the dumb part is, you know, like we go down to Texas Motorplex to test all the time. So we're there. Like I know about the crosswind. It's a thing. Like once again, all the fast guys talk about it. It's a real thing there. And I talked to some of the other guys from T1. I was like, hey, you know, how to feel up there on the big end? Because it's a little windy. And they're like, oh, no, it was fine. Like, you'll be good. Well, it just so happens that like when I made my pass, the wind picked up and I threw my chute. Chute comes out, swings up like 20, 30 feet. So like driver side just like swings hard left and up. And it actually picked the back end of the car up off the ground. And when it sat down, it just drove straight into the wall. I mean, like when your back tires are off the ground, like there's nothing you can do. And so the car went into the wall. Luckily, because I have all the safety stuff in my car, like I was perfectly fine. I jumped out my hip hurt for a couple of weeks. And if I run around too much, like it'll hurt a little bit still. I should probably go get checked out, but I'm not going to. And hey, right, right stubborn. But like that's, it's just wild stuff like that, man. Yeah.

Is that the worst accident you've had?

Yeah, yeah. And like, so it's one of those deals, man, you know, like when you're, when you do it for long enough, we always say that like you dress for the occasion, right? Because like, it's not, if you're racing at that level for a long enough time, it's not if it's when. There are two types of racers, especially when you're going that fast, guys that have and guys that will. So it's one of those deals where like, you never know, like there was nothing. And the reason why I say like, I go back to like, if you're not scared of the stopping part, then you've never been fast. And so that pass was a completely normal pass for me. So go out, car goes 210, straight is narrow, everything's great, shakedown, sweet. We qualified six for the Elite Eight, and that one test pass. And through the shoot, everything was fine, shoot hits, all of a sudden, I am going this way, looking at the wall, and there's nothing, nothing I can do. So I go straight into the wall, and when it hit the wall is one of those deals where I'm like, okay, Ouch, number one. But, it broke the steering off the car, the car fishtailed, and when it went into the wall, I went in passenger side first, and it slapped the wall so hard that my car has carbon rotors on it from Strange, and it literally just hit the wall so hard that it just disintegrated the brake rotor. The brake assembly is still there, and the wheel was still there, it didn't break the wheel off or anything. But the rotor, gone. It hit the wall that hard. And then it crossed back over, and it went into the other side of the other wall, or whatever, and I'm sitting there trying to steer, and I had no idea that my steering was broken. So I'm in there, I'm trying to get the car shut off, all this stuff, because I'm like, all right, just don't be on fire. That's the main thing, I'm like, just don't be on fire. And so I shut off the car, or I thought I did when we were going through the logs with Tony, he was, I was like, I was like, did I get the car shut off in time? He goes, bro, it's MoTec, it shut it off for you. And I was like, well, sweet. You know what I mean? It's like, everything was fine. Like we went into the wall that hard, and that goes back to like all the safety equipment for these things, man. We had to replace a front frame rail, and basically we fixed the rear quarter and fixed the suspension stuff with the car straight, and we're racing it even still this season. So it's one of those deals where like, if you do it right, it works.

What? I think I saw that. What color was the car?

Blue. It's a dark blue GTR.

Yeah. Didn't you have like a livery of some kind on a two?

No, no, no.

A different one.

No, no, no, no. Not on my...

I think I might have a video on that one, actually. Yeah, that was a crazy one. Because I think we're on the left side of the stands at that event.

And the dumb part was like, I was like racing with my like, we were making our test passes, so it wasn't or qualifying passes. So it wasn't like we weren't seriously racing. And the funny part is my buddy, the red R8 that was in the left lane with me, that was my old car.

And so, yeah, yeah.

So we were joking about it. And I was like, you go, I'll catch up, you know? It was one of those deals where like, so like you see him take off and I just like slow roll. And it was one of those deals where we actually started too slow on that pass because I just want to make sure that like we had drag raced the car a lot. I hadn't roll raced that car yet. And it was one of those deals where like, I care a lot about like doing everything right. So like I'll never come out racing half cocked, never. If the car is not right or we change something, we haven't tested it, I'll show up, but I won't even race the car. Like I'll bring the car to the event because like, it's good to have it there, but I won't even race it if it's not like ready to go.

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So it was one of those deals where like we started from 40, even at TXUK when the speed there is 60, and we were just trying to get a test pass in, make sure all the systems are good, we're looking good. And then the wind just bit me hard, man.

Sure.

Yeah.

Well, how many events are you running in a year? Is it kind of just whenever you get a chance to, or you think you have some time? Because there's no way you can be running in everything that you're doing.

Right.

Stuff, right?

Right. Well, and that like it kind of goes back to like I said, there's like four events that you can really run that car to its true potential at with other guys to like actually race, you know? And so that's one of those deals where going fast is really fun until you do it. And what I mean by that is when you're so fast, it's one of those deals like there's less races, not enough people want to race you. And it's one of those deals where like it's really, really costly. So you pick and choose where you go. And then like, you know, my favorite car I think that I've ever had, that was a car that I raced a lot, was my 1800 horsepower GTR that I had. To me, that's a great stopping point with the GTR platform. They can be dead nuts reliable. They're still super fast. Like that car at our roll race, we do a quarter mile roll race, so we don't extend it out like TX UK. I want to say it's like, it's 1500 or 1700 feet. So we just do the quarter mile, so we can use the timing system and all that stuff. But that car, even in a quarter mile roll race, starting from a 40, it trapped like 184, 185, like clockwork. I mean, it was like a bracket car. And I raced that car at almost every event that we had in our 20 event season that year. And I think we did oil changes, and then I might have had an axle issue in the rear one time. But other than that, like, we just did oil changes.

20 events, that's wild.

Right, right. In the car, like not only that, but like the car, we drag raced the car too, not just roll racing. That car was a full out street car, full stereo, full interior, cruise control, AC, everything. And that car ran 790s, like clockwork. So it's one of those deals where like, dude, that's fast. And not only that, but it's so reliable. Like, man, if you want to go fast in a cool platform that you can still pull up and like, feel like you're doing something when you pull up somewhere, the GTR is a great bet, man. Great bet.

So there's so many people, like, I don't see it as much in the comments nowadays, but like, oh, the GTR is overhyped. I think that if there's a car that's lived up to the hype, it's the GTR.

I agree. I agree. I mean, it's hard to beat. I mean, really what out there is going to beat it. You know what I mean? Sure. So it's tough, but yeah, as far as like racing goes, so I will say this, like going back to the V10 GTR debate, right? I always tell everybody, if you want to take your wife to dinner and something that's fast, get a V10. If you want to go actually fast and go racing, let's get a GTR. So because like it's just, it's where it's at, they're more figured out. Like going back to like the transmission costs and all those things. Yeah, it's expensive too on a GTR, but it is far more figured out than the V10 is. Like we're still working out bugs with the V10 stuff, but like we've been going fast with the GTR now. Well, they hit the States in 09. So it's one of those deals where I mean, we have a whole bunch more years working with the GTR than we do the V10, but look how fast the V10s have caught up. So it's one of those deals where like really, in my opinion, the V10 stuff, we've had the Huracans and the R8s since 15. So we have six more years with the GTR for one, but like that car has caught up super quick. But I would say like racing those cars and actually turboing those cars, like for real, I think it was really around where they actually really, really started to go fast. And you saw more shops than just like two that were building them. I would say probably around 21-ish, 20-ish. So like really those cars have really only been raced hard, I would say for about five years. And they're already just insane.

Yeah.

So yeah.

What's the next platform? Is there one that you think could catch up? Or we've talked about these top dogs. What's the next level down you think? Or which one has the most potential to get close?

So I would probably say some of those BMWs. I mean, look at what those things are doing. Like those little cars are nuts.

Yeah.

And they're cool too. Like once again, you can have a full interior street car and they're out there running. What? Like if they're in the 7s now, aren't they? They haven't paid that close attention to them, but like they're fast. I know that they're fast. So probably the BMWs and like the barriers to like entry into those cars is really not too bad. So like I think you're going to see that car go. Oh, also the the Audis, the little, the TTRS. Yeah, the five-seater, the RS3, yeah, those cars are freaking fast, too. So once again, barrier for entry, not very big. So like if you have a full time job and like more than likely, you could probably afford to get into that car. So like I think you're going to see a lot of those cars starting to go really, really fast.

And I know we're about to find out this weekend, our friend Becca is about to chase her seven second pass.

Yeah, Becca is awesome. She's been racing with us for a long, long time.

Oh yeah.

You're in that neck of the woods where they're kind of from, too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're in South Dakota. Yeah. So not too far from us.

No.

Yeah.

When you get into that area, everything's three, four hours away, right?

Right, right, right, right. A lot of fields in between.

Yes, exactly. Right, right.

So. Okay. So what's next for you over the next few years then? Are you still trying to grow the event? Do more events?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, like, I don't see that ball stopping anytime soon.

Sure.

You know, like, I don't think that the street car world is slowing down at all. Obviously, things continue to progress and we want to keep being a part of that. I think it's awesome. Focusing on the sales side of things with Race Ready as well, too, and growing that brand, they kind of go hand in hand. It's like the best thing ever. Going back to, like, the new guy that wants to race, we get guys all the time that come in, they're like, man, I want to be a part of this. Like I saw on YouTube, like, you know, I watch videos of TX UK or Street Car Takeover, FL2K, whatever. And, like, they want to do that. And it's cool to be able to be like, all right, cool. So not only do we build these cars, but we sell these cars and we can teach you how to race these cars. So, like, we're like a one stop shop for all of it. So we can teach you how to race these cars and we can get you into the platform. And I think that that is just going to continue to push things further and further and further for us.

Has there ever been an instance where you thought you had to, that you've had to maybe bring somebody down a level or that you were like, okay, you're kind of scared to hand over the keys or?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So just this past year, actually, so we had a guy, really, really good dude, really good dude. He bought a twin turbo V10 car. I'll leave it at that.

Yeah.

We're going to keep it a little bit, a little bit.

Vague?

Yeah, a little vague here. Okay. So gets the car, takes delivery of it at a restaurant that he was at with a bunch of his boys. And they had the transport guy switch to that. And younger guy, been super successful in business really, really quick. And he buys a 1500 horsepower V10 car, but he's never had anything like that before. And the next morning we get a video of the car sitting there smoking. And I called them and I was like, dude, why does this thing sound like a Subaru? What did you do? And like the best thing about selling those cars, a lot of them are on MoTec. So like, we're going to pull the logs and we're going to know what happened. Like MoTec knows all. So like we can go back and see what you did, you know? And apparently it's very, very fun to just sit there and bounce that sucker off the rev limiter and make it shoot flames. I mean, you can put flame maps on it, but they'll do it without it, too. And it hurts a lot of things. And so we had like we got the car back, put a new motor in it, put a built trans in it, because we knew that he was going to go out there and use the car.

Do you break anything in particular?

So I think it had something to do. Was it like a lifter? If something in the heads.

Sure. Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah, right. And so it hurt the car real bad. We put a new motor in it, put a built trans in it, because like I said, I knew this guy was going to use this car. And then we actually we called Taylor from Sisio. He's their tuner.

Yeah, he's awesome.

My boy, dude, like the Sisio guys. Yeah, they're good dudes.

North Dakota guy.

Right, right, right.

Yeah.

And so I called Taylor. I was like, hey, let's put some safeties in here. And he goes, he goes, yeah, I think that's solid. So like, back down a little bit. It's like that car has a ton of potential to make, you know, 1600 plus on the stock motor with those turbos and like, we're just going to back this down a little bit. So yeah, there's, I mean, there's definitely, there's definitely some guys out there that like, really abuse this stuff. For the most part, it holds up pretty good. So it's one of those deals where it's just like, you got to use common sense, you know, like those cars. I think a lot of people, it's so easy to do it in these cars. They don't realize like guys, 1500 horsepower. It's so easy to do it now, but like, it's fast. Like that is a fast car. Now, is it one of the front runners at any of these events anymore? If you're making 1500, no, it's not. But like, you cover so much ground in those cars so fast. I don't think people realize that. Like until you experience it for the first time ever. Like one of the most fun things about our job is when we get to take people out in like these cars for the first time and just watching their eyes get this big. Like it is wild. And like if you've never experienced it before and you just get tossed in the past receipt of one of these cars, like my mother-in-law is legitimately the most fun person to take out in a new build ever. So like, cause she's awesome for one, but like she's, it's good for camera. Let's put it that way. It's really good.

If you can't have fun with a 1500 horsepower V10 car, then you might want to just do something else.

Right, right, right.

I agree. What about new deliveries, right? Cause like you see this at events pretty frequently. I imagine you see it as well, where somebody gets their first 1500 horsepower build and they just go hit the track with no training. I mean, is that a recipe for disaster? You think it's probably fine?

It depends, right? It depends on the person, because there are some guys that just got it, and then there's some guys that have been doing it for years that shouldn't be. You know what I mean? So it's one of those deals where like, it kind of depends on the person. But for the most part, like we don't really see guys mess up too much, especially with MoTek on there and stuff. Like MoTek will save you from a lot of things. So it's one of those deals where like...

From yourself especially.

Right, yeah, it'll save you from yourself. If the car does start to spin or whatever, it'll save you. Like it's one of those deals where we rely on MoTek a lot to do those things and it works well. So does stuff still happen? Well, sure it does, but it's pretty rare.

Who do you respect most in the industry?

Who do I respect most in the industry?

Or a few people?

Yeah, I got a few guys that I really respect, man. So Kyle Optus, for one, you know, he's like my brother. Garrett Cletus is also like a brother to me. You know, back when we were just dumb kids, you know, when Garrett was 17, his mom signed him over to me as a legal guardian so that he could come with us to TX UK to help 1320 work, because he was running our Instagram at the time. And so his mom and his dad were literally going to Mexico. And she's like, hey, can you be Garrett's legal guardian? Because like I was, I think at the time I was 22, and Garrett's 17, and she literally just signed him over to me. And I was like, so what do I do? She's like, if anything happens, like yes to everything. And I was like, okay, I can do that, you know? And so, but I would say that those two guys have been a very, very big part of a lot of what we see now happening in our world, a huge part of it, you know? I think Kyle laid a ton of the groundwork, continues to do that, and Garrett has done it. Kyle too, but like those guys have done such a great job at pushing it to be mainstream. And I think a lot of those guys in like the street world, they have a way of reaching people that the NHRA just can't do, like they cannot do what we do. And I think that's why we get asked all the time, like, hey, how do you guys get with the younger generation and stuff, it's like, you can't teach it, man. So it's one of those deals where like, those guys have been huge and influential to me, more than anybody.

Sure.

More than anybody.

The 1320 ripple effect is like nothing else.

Wild, dude.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So back in the day, we actually had hats, and I think Kyle still has them on the back of it. You know, it has the 1320 video logo right here, but on the back says, we'll make you famous.

Oh yeah, I see.

We still wear them. Yeah, we're at Texas 2K a couple years ago. Yep, yep, yep. And it's one of those deals, man, where we're like, it's so true. Like, they've really blown the lid off of the street car world, and it continues to show today. I mean, they're unstoppable. So.

What do you think needs to change? Is there anything that needs to change in the street car stuff?

Yeah, takeovers need to stop, man. Yeah, like the intersections and like people hanging out the side of cars. It's just the dumbest thing ever.

Sure.

Like it puts everything in a bad light, and it's just it's not good for anybody. Like there's nothing good that comes from that. So like, and it's just like the disrespect is just unbelievable. Like those like the guys that participate in that stuff, like there's zero accountability. There's zero respect for authority. And it's like, guys, like we can go out and have a good time. But at the end of the day, just be a real person, man. You know, so like that stuff, I think that's the worst thing that's happened to the industry in a very, very long time. So I don't care. That's a hot take or not.

It's the truth. Well, I think it's a pretty standard.

I think it's pretty well received by now. Right.

Right.

But it's just mind blowing. Like you like go read the comments on those things. Like you just don't get the culture, bro.

Yeah.

It's like, what do you mean? Like I'm not an idiot.

Yeah.

Like is that what culture? Like it's the dumbest thing ever, dude.

Well, there's a there's a platform for that now to the the horsepower rodeo in this burnout stuff is one of the fastest growing autumn sports right now too.

Yeah. We've been putting burnout contests in our races now. Like, you know, we'll go out there, we'll put up the barriers and stuff and like, we'll put payouts on it and everything. And like, that's cool, right? Like we, we, we get it. Like we like the show too. And like, we like doing that. It's just like, we don't want to do what you guys are doing to do it. Like there's a, there's a, there's a time and a place for everything, right? And like, if you do it, like those guys are doing it at the tracks and stuff with the barrier set up and stuff, like it's just the way to do it. So like, you can't just throw people in the back of a Hellcat and like have them hanging out the windows, and you know, like it's just crazy.

This guy sucks. He's no fun. I'm going to delete this podcast. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, you can go do that.

I'll definitely watch.

I'll definitely watch, but I'm not going to be a part of it. You know what I mean?

Right. So what's, I think you're probably one of the best gauges for what's the pulse of this industry, right? Because we always see the articles of tracks closing.

Right.

We also see some opening up.

Right.

Is this all kind of growing as a whole still, do you feel?

I do. Yeah, I do. So we get asked that question all the time. They talk about the younger generation, what we can do. We've been pulled into rooms at big trade shows, and they're like, we just don't think that the younger generation is into cars. And it's like, no, they are. You're just not good at presenting it. You know what I mean? And I think the industry is very alive, and I think it's very, very good. We make posts all the time. We see people that are like, you know, well, drag racing is dying, this, that and the other. It's like, okay, well, we just sold out this massive track. You know what I mean? It's like, it's not dying. You just have to pay attention to what people like and what they want, you know? And I think that's one of the biggest hurdles of the industry right now, is that you got a bunch of the same guys that have been doing this for so long, that are so set in their ways. It's like, guys, once again, people don't want to go to the racetrack and watch a bracket race. You know what I mean? Like they just, they don't want to see that. And that's like you go to like some of these NHRA events, like, you know, I've been working with the NHRA a little bit on some Street Car stuff. And we were talking about it the other day. We were at the event in Ennis, which is huge. And like, if you haven't been to an NHRA national event, like you should absolutely go. Like this is not hate on that at all. Like it is amazing. But like you go into like into the pits, into the sportsman side of things, and it's all guys that are 50 plus years old. You know what I mean? Like all of them. And like you go into like their VIP places where like they are doing lunch and stuff like that. And it's all people that are 50 years old because they've been doing the same like 50 up. Like they've been doing the same thing for so long that like you have to change and you have to grow. But then you go to like one of Garrett's events or like Street Car Takeover or FL2K or TX2K or any of these events. And like they are packed with young people, like pack, pack, packed. It's because those guys are doing the things necessary to get the young people to the track and making it fun and making it appealing.

So you're saying basically not necessarily to bash on the Dan's of the world.

I'm not 50 years old.

We round up around here. Just like horsepower, we round up. But more so just expanding that demographic is what you're saying. So how do you do that then? Right. What's the big limiting factor?

I think one of the biggest problems with the industry right now is the lack of heroes within it. In the street car world, I think we have those guys. I really do. The showmanship with the guys that are doing what we do is awesome. Who comes to mind? Well, once again, Garrett.

I think Garrett is on top of that list.

He's the biggest hero right now, for sure.

Right, right. And then you get guys like Brett LaSalle.

Sure.

He's solid. There's a bunch of really, really fast guys that people care to follow. And I think that's the difference, right? Because you get so professional at some point that it's not even fun to watch anymore. There's no heroes really in the NHRA. There's just not. And it's not relatable at all either. Like top fuel, coolest thing in the world. But I'm never going to go race top fuel. You know what I mean? It's cool to watch, but...

Do you think that might be kind of fizzling out? Or how do you get more attendance to that?

You know, that's tough too, because I do see people that are like, oh, the NHRA is dying out, like NASCAR is dying out. But then you go to those events and they're packed. So I don't think that's the case either. I think that people are just getting the wrong pulse for what's going on. And I think that the more grass roots side of things is really taking off, because you can go fast and you can be relatable, right? And I think that's like the intriguing part of like what we do.

The being relatable, I think, is a huge part of it, because you're not going to go to Home Depot parking lot and see a top fuel dragster, but you'll run into a gotta have a green Mustang, or some, you know, a GTR or whatever. You can see that.

Or those fast F150s.

Exactly.

And the cool thing, that's what people love watching that stuff. You'll have the 1500 horsepower Lambo at our event, but he'll be racing an F150.

There's that hero thing.

Yeah, it's like, brother, okay, cool thing is, mainstream, you think that that Lamborghini should win every time, right? But in reality, we know the opposite. So it's one of those deals where he can be the hero, and it's fun to watch. So yeah, it's fun to watch. When you get different things racing each other that shouldn't be racing each other, that's a cool thing to see. You get a bunch of class cars with a bunch of stickers all over the side of it, doing the same thing every single time. It just gets really repetitive. But with these street cars, it's so unpredictable as to what could happen. You could have a completely stock looking car, and it go out there and crack off a seven second quarter mile pass. You're just like, wait a minute, what just happened? You know what I mean? But you know that top field is supposed to be fast. You know that, you know? So it's cool to see something that shouldn't be fast be really fast, because who would have ever thought, like really, who would have ever thought that we're getting like regular cab short bed trucks? Yeah. And they are freaking going fast, man, like really fast. And like, I know that's been a thing for a long time. Like back in the day, like if you watch any of like the old 1320 videos, Parrish was out there with his little blue regular cab Silverado just like smashing people, you know? And so it's been a thing, but it's not been very mainstream up until recently. And then you get guys like, you know, the Midnight Performance guys and stuff like that, that are out there just like wrecking people, just ripping their face off.

He's only in a competition.

Right. It's just so cool to watch.

And not like that, but they're a show.

Like they're a show.

Absolutely.

Like you go out there with like, you know, like the guys like Jimmy Dale, Michael Pollan, like the little gangsters guys. And you get guys like, you know, the Midnight Performance Boys, like they're like, they're a show. People want to watch that. You throw Garrett in the mix. And like, these are relatable guys with relatable cars that guys can really get. And like, they want to be like those guys. And it's good for the industry, man. Like it's awesome. So, and it's, like I said, relatable. That's what people want. Yeah. So it's cool. I love that stuff.

I took a deep breath.

I know. I had something I could remember.

I should make a t-shirt of that. It's like every time I see Dan take a deep breath, I'm like, oh, I think he's winding up for something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sometimes it's just because of, you know, I'm an old man.

Gotta get your breath.

Yeah, right.

Yeah.

What are your thoughts on, again, this isn't necessarily my world. What are your thoughts on the whole IHRA thing kind of coming to light as well?

From a business standpoint, it's wild. I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens.

Sure.

I don't know how it's sustainable. Like when you're coming, like a lot of times, and I don't know if this is going to be the case. I hope I'm wrong because once again, I think it's great for the sport. But it's one of those deals where how is it sustainable? Like you got to like there is a point where you're doing too much too fast and you just you can't do that forever. So is it sustainable? I don't know. Is it cool to see right now? Absolutely. So like we'll see. You know, you get a lot of guys that like break into the industry and they just come out swinging hard. And I hope that it stays a thing because I think it's great for drag racing as a whole. But it would be interesting to watch. So they're throwing a lot of money and a lot of stuff. And I know that it seems to be working from what I've seen. Obviously, there's been a couple of hiccups, but it's going to be like that with anything new. So I know the IHRA isn't new, but what's happening is new. So I think it would be fun to watch. I don't know. That's that can go a lot of different ways, man. A lot of different ways.

Give me Saudi money.

We'll be live Street Car Takeover, right?

Do you ever see yourself, do you have you done any events in like Canada or Mexico yet?

Or no, no, we haven't. So we've talked about it in the past and stuff. And we actually got invited to go over to the Middle East a long time ago to do it. But once again, like the logistics were just crazy. And when we got invited to go to the Middle East, oh, how long, 10 years ago ish? Oh, jeez. Yeah, I mean, it was a long time ago and actually happened at SEMA. Like they approached us at SEMA to do that. And we're sitting there, we're talking it over like with like our guys, like internally. And it's one of those deals where like, Neil, I know that those guys have been racing over there for a long time, but it's kind of really just starting to be mainstream over there. And it's one of those deals where like, we didn't know any of the guys, like we don't know. And so it's one of those deals where it's like, man, we're really flying blind here. Like, is this a good idea? And all those guys are so nice and they're so great. And it's like, all right, well, that's cool. But like, what happens if something goes wrong over there? And we're just like, ooh, like, what do we do?

So, but I think just understanding it.

Right, right. We just don't understand. Like we don't know. But I think it'd be cool to go Australia for sure. I think those would be cool. Those boys are absolutely wild.

Yeah, we met some the other day.

Yeah, I've got to meet a lot of them too now, especially like with all the burnout stuff popping off and all those guys are like shipping their cars over.

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Yeah. To do that stuff, which I think is really cool. So like they're spending a ton of money to come out here and put shows on for everybody. I think that's awesome. So I think that'd be cool. And I know that they just built a new drag race facility in Mexico somewhere. I can't remember off the top of my head what city it's in, but it's apparently supposed to be really, really nice.

Okay.

And we've kind of been eyeballing that situation too. So we have friends that go down there pretty frequently.

Okay.

And they're telling us how nice it is. Everything is cool. So it's absolutely a possibility. So it's absolutely a possibility.

Well, then you can also get crazy. Brazil too. FuelTech just got that new track out there too. Right. Right.

I think it's cool that it's happening all over the world. It's just how do you get over there to do it? You know what I mean? Do we ship all of our stuff?

With your schedule, no shot, dude. Right. If you didn't have 20 events stateside, okay, maybe.

Right. Right.

That's a lot.

It would take a team over there. You know, like you would have to like, obviously we'd fly our guys in, of course, you know, but like there's so much stuff that we'd have to take with us. We would have to have all that stuff like set up and then come in and do the event because like my rig that I drive around in, like it's one of those deals where brother, that thing don't float. So like, how am I going to get it over there? Right.

Right.

Right. But it's like, it's got everything in it. So we'd have to like set it up, I guess, and then go do it. Yeah.

Street Car franchises, man.

They're right. Right. That'd be cool. That's an idea.

Well, where do you see Street Car in the next five years? Are there more events, more classes?

Yeah. So man, we've been focusing a lot on the show side of things. So we just got done with our event in Nashville, and it's one of those deals where we tried doing this in Atlanta at first, and it worked awesome, and it opened our eyes to what was going on. So there's been a couple of events that have done this, but it hasn't been full-throttle, put everything into it. And so we decided to just pop off and try it. And we went to Atlanta, I think it was two years ago, and we did a no prep race down Pit Road at Atlanta Motor Speedway, the NASCAR track. And it completely caught us by surprise. The turnout was freaking massive. We were not ready for it at all. The pre-sales rolling into it were like, oh man, is this going to freaking work? And then all of a sudden overnight, it just popped off like crazy. And I don't know what happened, but it completely caught us off guard. And we're sitting there racing, drag racing on a NASCAR pit road. And the feeling that you get doing that, it's cool. It feels very street. You know what I mean? It feels like you're racing in an industrial park, like the old days with your buddies, because you're racing somewhere where you shouldn't be. This shouldn't be happening here, but it's happening here and it's awesome. So we took that formula and we went to Nashville with it like two weeks ago and we did a 28105. We did it with the little gangsters guys. So like it said, like Jimmy Dale, Michael Poland, all those boys, BJ, they helped us out with the event. And like we like blew the lid off in Nashville. Like it was sweet. So we did a 25 or 28105, anything with doors, no wall wheel drive. So pretty standard small tire rules. And we did a $30,000 to win race out there. But on the flip side though, we still had the huge burnout pit. We brought in huge mega trucks. Like these trucks are bigger than monster trucks. Like they make monster trucks look small. They're that big. I do these things like 20 feet up in the air. Like it's crazy. Like the tires, like I think they're like 80s, I think. Like they're huge. Like huge, huge, huge, huge trucks. And like they're big diesel trucks. And like we like chained them together and set up like a tug of war deal. So we had mega truck tug of war. We had $30,000 to win No Prep Race, the Burnout Pit. We had a country music concert, a laser show, like huge car show, tons of vendors. Like I think that's going to be where everything needs to go. Right. Like it needs to be more of a show. You can't just drag race anymore. Yeah. Like there needs to be lots of stuff going on all day. And I think a lot of that as like, it's like kind of like the Instagram, TikTok, real mentality, like the attention span these days. You got to have a lot going on.

There needs to be fireworks and bombs going on.

Right. Just everything going down like right now. You know what I mean? And I think that's going to be a really, really big thing here coming up is like, how much stuff can we cram into a show and make it a show? So it's an experience that people want to go back. Obviously, heavy racing influence, right? But at the same time, we want you to be able to bring your wife and your kids and come out and have a good time. That's what Street Car Takeover means about. And that's what the industry as a whole needs to get back to, in my opinion. Next year for 26 and SCT, we're adding a Junior Dragster series within our series. So they'll have more options than just what's been going on in Junior Dragsters, right? So a lot of our guys now, we're getting a little bit older. I'm in my mid thirties now. I just turned 35 a couple of days ago. So it's one of those deals where I got kids and I want to be able to take my kids with me and not just watch dad, how do we get them involved? So if you capture them at a young age, you can keep them for forever if you do it right. So it's one of those deals where Junior Dragsters, I think, are going to be important, and we're going to put real payouts on these classes. I think the conversation right now is we're going to give away a chassis at the end of the year to a kid and his family, but then also we're going to do a $2,500 payout at every race for a seven-year-old kid. So not only are they going to get a big old trophy, we're going to write you a check at the end of it for 2,500 bucks too, but that helps families stay in racing. Absolutely. And that's important because 2,500 bucks, even if you're going out of state to go race, that covers a lot of the expense. So obviously, you got to win, but that's part of it too. So it's one of those deals where I think that's going to be a big thing for SCT moving forward and really pushing the family dynamic. So increase turnouts, get kids involved at a younger age. I think it's going to be good all the way around.

I think that's a little bit of a responsibility because I love bringing my kids to the track. We do that. My 15-year-old now, we've been talking about maybe doing some spec Miata stuff. She races snowmobiles. So I think you gotta, if you want this to continue on, you gotta put those opportunities in front of them and see, you know, maybe they don't like it, maybe they don't, but unless you give them a chance to try it, you don't know.

Well, and like that's what makes car guys, like that is one of the most important things, I think, for the industry to understand, right? Especially like when you get like the exotic cars, like the super cars and stuff like that, little kids think that like a Lamborghini is like the most like the most earth shattering thing ever. Like when you pull up in a Lambo and there's kids around, man, it's just like moths on a light bulb. You're just like, yeah. And like the unfortunate part of it is though, is that a lot of the guys that drive those cars, like don't touch it, like don't look at it, you know? And like, that's the wrong thing to do. Like, so like whenever we take our cars out, man, it's like, dude, they're PPF. Like your kid's not going to hurt it. So like, yeah, feel free, like jump in the driver's seat, let them rev it up. Like, obviously don't let them just like pin it, but like let them experience the car and that makes car guys. And that's so important. And I think that a lot of guys, like they get the car show mentality, like don't touch, like put velvet ropes around their cars. It's like, bro, if a kid walks up and touches the quarter panel of your car, it's not going to melt, like wipe it off. You know what I mean? Like your hand puts a handprint on it too, brother. It ain't going to hurt it. You know what I mean? So like, you gotta like, you gotta watch how you act with that kind of stuff. And I think like that it's such a big thing. Like I remember guys like letting me sit in their car when I was a kid. And that's what makes you love this. Like I would be out in the garage with my dad's cars and stuff and like, like he never got on me about like touching the car or something like that. You know, like that's what makes car guys. They had to be able to experience it. It's one thing to see it. It's another thing to experience it.

Sure.

Right.

Yeah. That's a, this last Road America event I did, we did a parade then into Plymouth, and then they had like a big cheese festival or something going on there. Kids over the place. I let this kid get in. He stomps right on my Alcantara seats, and he lays on the horn. The very first thing he does, the hood's open. There's a bunch of people standing in front of it. They all jump in the air. I was like, that kid was having the time of his life.

And it's cool. Like that is cool. Like let them do that. You know?

I just had my sweaty a** in that seat, beating the s*** out of it in World America. So what the hell is the difference?

That kid is not going to hurt that car.

Yeah, that's official. Not going to hurt it.

Right. So we like big, lifted trucks too. Like that's the thing. I've really started to enjoy the last couple of years. Like I know that the SEMA trucks and stuff like that aren't everybody's taste.

Well, you don't go home, so they sit like this.

No, they don't. No, no, no. That's on the East Coast. That's on the East Coast. But like those trucks, like they're so cool. And once again, it gets like kids into it. You know what I mean? Like they're excited about it. It's like we'll pull up in these big, huge freaking lifted trucks that are like sitting out here at the SEMA parking lot, you know? And like the craziest thing about it is like, dude, you want to talk about like attention grabbers, man. Like you pull up in one of those trucks and the Lambo ceases to exist. Like it's crazy. Like let the kid hit the train horn. Like, you know, let them play with the lights. Like it's cool. You know, throw them up in the driver's seat. Like it's cool. So yeah, like my kids, they love that stuff. Like my son, whenever I have a truck that has a train horn on it, brother, oh boy, like watch out. That kid will smooth wear that button out.

Yeah.

That's great. Well, sweet on that. Or should we probably pop the usual three?

Yeah.

Anything else that you wanted to touch on?

I can't think of it. I think I had something before we started getting into the kid stuff. And sure as a guy who was a litter myself, I get excited about kids and motor sports.

Yeah, it's awesome.

We're also good about the Minnesota goodbye. We usually pop our usual three. And then after that, it's like, I had a half hour goodbye. Well, let it rip and let's see what we can do.

I was going to ask you a quick one. You had mentioned, here we go. You had mentioned No Prep earlier. I was going to ask that. What are your thoughts on that? And is that something you guys do a lot of or want to do more of?

We just recently started to get into that. We've done some of it in the past, but I think we're going to start doing more of it. You know, our races, it's not a one day deal anymore. It's anywhere from two to three days long, and there's plenty of time to fit that stuff in. And it brings in a whole other demographic of racing, and it brings in a whole other demographic of spectators, and it's fun to watch. It's so unpredictable, and it's the great equalizer, right? Like, on a prep service, you can throw enough money at anything to make it fast, but if it's a no prep service, like on pit road, once again, you have to be good at what you do. And once again, you see the front runners, the guys that are out really winning a bunch of these races, and once again, there's only a few of them. Like, there's probably five, six guys that every weekend when you turn on Facebook and you go look at this stuff, like you will see those same five names over and over and over again, because those are the guys that put in the work to go fast. It is so much more, and like that's like the craziest misconception, and it's especially true in no prep racing, I think, is like you have to be good at it. And the only way to be good at it is to do it a lot and put in the work to be fast. But I think a lot of guys miss that. They just buy a car, spend a ton of money on putting parts on it, and then they expect it to work. And they expect it to work every time. You go to some of these races, it's a race of the wallets. And it's one of those deals where guys like, with a bunch of twin turbo V10s and a bunch of GTRs and stuff like that, there's only a handful of us that are driving those types of cars that you see in a consistent basis that are out there winning stuff. Because a lot of these guys, they're high performing in their jobs and stuff like that, so they can afford these types of cars, but then they race them once a year. And they expect these cars as a shop owner and talking to other shop owners and stuff like that, you see that's the most frustrating thing ever. It's like, well, we got to get my car done for this race. Bro, okay, we'll get it done, but are you going to go test beforehand? Do you know what you're doing? Do you know what the car is going to do? Do we even know if this is going to work? You know what I mean? And they go out there, and then it's really, really disappointing because they don't put in the work and the time to make it happen, you know? Can't just throw stuff at cars and make it work.

You gotta learn how to bump.

Right, right.

Anybody who's ever wrenched on something or done a major change or done anything, the odds of you going out and everything working 100% right.

Right.

Almost zero percent.

Almost zero, every time. Everything that should take 45 minutes is an all-day affair.

Yeah.

Every single time. So like, you know, I talk to my guys about it all the time, like some of our techs and stuff. It's like, dude, there's no instruction manual for a lot of the stuff that we're doing, you know? So it's one of those deals where it's like, yeah, I think this is going to work, but we got to go test and make sure it's going to work. So it takes a little bit longer sometimes because it's not like you just roll up to the Ford service center. And they have the same problem on this year, on this make forever because it's just a known issue and they fix it 10 times a week, it's done in an hour. You know what I mean? Like when you're making a car that comes with 600 horsepower from the factory, make 3000 horsepower. Right. Like there's a lot of trial and error there, man. Like, and once again, it's not hard to make the power anymore. We know we can make the power, but can you make it work? So the guy that makes it work is the guy that's going to win. And it's rare to find those guys, man, really rare. So really rare.

Who do you think has some of the best support teams out there? Is it still like T1 up there?

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, I mean, that's the coolest part with the industry right now. And that's why I'll go back to saying again, like this isn't dead, like, and it's not going anywhere. There's so many great options for so many different platforms out there. Like I said, you got the Sysio guys, you got AMS, you have T1, there's so many good options out there that like, pick one and roll with it. You know what I mean? And like, just know, like, the thing that I try to instill in people's heads is like when you get into this, expect things to break. There is no such thing as it'll never break, it's bulletproof, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, that's not a thing. You could have it be built by the best person with the best parts, and guess what? Stuff is still going to break. So it's part of racing, man. Like me and my buddy Dalton, who I met a long, long time ago out in the streets in Texas. Like, we have a saying that we still say to this day, that's show business, baby. And when stuff breaks, like, you just gotta laugh it off. It's like, man, that really sucks. And this is gonna be very expensive, but baby, that's show business. And we love that part of it. So it's just one of those deals where like, you have to expect those things and just take it with a grain of salt. Like, you can learn from stuff breaking. So like, we'll make it better next time. It's fine. It is what it is. It sucks right now. It sucks financially, but here we are.

So, do you have a favorite moment or memory doing, whether it's the street racing days, 1320, Street Car, whatever?

So, yeah, probably like in it, like we're going to go back to like the old days, but it's a day I'll never forget. When we had the 3DX Evo, and the day that we went to the dyno, like the video went insanely viral. Like Kyle came with us. It was me and my dad and Fred, who like Fred from 1328. We all like, that was when Fred first started. Like this is a long time ago. And we all rode down together. Like Kyle came out. Like it was just, it was fun to film that day. And I had my dad with me. And it was one of those deals where like, that was, it was a defining moment in like cars for me. Because like, you know, it like, it showed my dad. Like it was, like I said, for a long time, like my dad, he's my hero. Still to this day, like, you will not find a better human being on the planet. Like I will stand on that. My dad is amazing. And like, it was cool for me to have him there. And like, somehow he makes it happen every single time when something really, really cool happens, my dad's there. I don't know how he does it, but he freaking does it. And I hope I can do that with my kids too. But like, we set the record, we were the highest horsepower Evo 10 in the world. I was a dumb 23 year old kid at the time. I literally put every single penny I had and more into this car to try to make something happen with it. And that was the day that I think like, it started like stuck in like, like really stick to me that like, this is what I want to do. Like this is, this is gonna be a thing. And then when we started doing Street Car Takeover, like I said, the only reason why we started is because we wanted to go race with our friends. And like, I don't ever want to lose that, but that day in particular, my dad was there, some of my best friends were there, and there are guys like we talked about before, the ripple effect from 1320 Video has been amazing. Like a bunch of those guys that you see today that are big in the industry, we all came from Omaha, Nebraska. Like Garrett was there, Kyle was there, we were there. And like just to see the split off, all coming from that one thing, we were just a bunch of dumb kids in a parking lot with video cameras, and it worked.

In the middle of nowhere. And it worked.

In Omaha.

Yeah. It worked.

But like that's like another message to like guys, like trying to get in the industry. Just do it, man. Like just you got to start. So start. There's no such thing as a dumb question. Just go out and do it. Figure it out. And like when you figure it out, that's what keeps the sport going. And we see more and more of it all the time. Like guys going viral for different things. Like it's cool. I think it's an exciting time in the industry right now. And I think people need to focus on the good and like forget some of the bad and just keep like moving forward. Things are going good. So like just let it be good, man, be good.

What is your dad was a car guy? What did he have?

So my dad, so it's been, it's been fun to see like his progression too. So back in the day, he was a big 300ZX guy.

Okay.

Like he, dude, he had a lot of them. So like, I think the video of us at Road America that we talked about earlier, I think I was in his pearl white 300ZX. I'm pretty sure.

That's a pretty rare color for those two guys, right? Yeah.

Car is sweet, man.

I think Calvill's brought that color up to me before, actually.

Yeah. Yeah. So it was like pearl white with like tan interior.

Sure.

Car was so cool. Like even still to this day, like that's a cool car. Absolutely. But so he got, he's a business owner, got a little bit more successful, stuff like that. Longer business. And he started to be a big Porsche guy. So like my family, like we are big Porsche people, have been for forever. I mean, they're hard to beat, man. They're really hard to beat.

Not gonna take one car to beat them, but that.

They're awesome.

They're awesome. Yeah, right. Right.

Right. So yeah, big Porsche guy.

Sure.

Yeah. That would be him, so.

Cool.

How many people did you have show up to your first event?

Oh man.

Any idea?

So our first event in Kansas City. So to our night meet stuff, it was huge. And the reason for it is just because of what we were doing at that time, you know, with like 1320 video, like the night meet stuff was that was what everybody wanted, you know? But then you get to the track side of things. And man, I bet there might have been a thousand people there for our first one at the track. And like, man, we thought we were doing it. Like we made a little bit of money. Everything was great. We're like, man, we can really do this for real. Like it was fun. I think we probably made like without saying too much, like I think we made like eight grand. I think it was like 7,800 bucks on the first event. And like we just thought that we were freaking doing it.

Yeah.

And like you put all this time and all this effort and to be in the green and stuff like that is a big thing. And like it's hard, man. It's hard.

Well, that's not super common to be in the green either. I know.

No, you got to do it right.

Yeah.

There's a lot of me, bro.

Yeah.

There's a lot of like time and effort. Like that's why I'm that's why I'm like saying it's not easy. Like it's more than just a Facebook post and it happens. Like there's so many variables that go into it. And like you can lose it all.

Like you have to have you ever lost it all?

Um, no, we've done pretty good. We've done pretty good. There's been a couple that we haven't made anything on.

Sure.

And there's been a couple that we broke even, but those are those events. Most of the time when you have those types of events, it's one of those deals where it's like, okay, but we set the groundwork for next year to just crush.

Right.

So like you got to put on the show and if it costs you some money, it is what it is. But like that's what locks it in for forever. So we always say it takes three years for an event to cement itself, like a new location. It takes three years. And if it doesn't work in three years, you got to go somewhere else.

Well, you got the data to make that claim too.

Right, right, right.

You've been in it long enough.

Right. If it doesn't work in three years, you got to go somewhere else. So that's a lot that plays into it too.

Define working. Like what do you mean by work?

So, okay. So obviously the racer turnout is super important, right? The racers of the show. So you got to take care of those boys. But the spectator count is where everybody eats, right? So it's one of those deals where you have to put the butts in the seats. And that's why we're so focused moving into the 2026 of the show aspect of it, because that's where things are going. So it has to be a show. So yeah, we can have as many racers as we want, but we got to pay out big payouts for those guys and stuff like that. So really, in reality, on the racing side of things, you can have a great racer turnout. But if there's no spectators there, you're not going to make anything because you're giving it all back to the racers, which is important, obviously, they're the show. But the spectators is what really continues to drive if an event is going to be successful or not. So because us racers will race anywhere, we just want to race, right? But you have to have the people there in order for it to be successful.

Sure.

So right.

I think that's a hell of a note to end on. Yeah.

All right.

Well, let it rip with the usual three.

All right. So at the end of every episode, we like to ask our guests to pick three cars. I need a track car, a daily driver, and a show car.

Rookie.

You almost forgot it.

It's been a while since we've done one of these actions.

So show car, daily driver, and race car?

Track car.

Yeah. Track car, race car. And you have an unlimited budget.

Unlimited budget. Okay. So daily driver wise, I'm going with a big lifted truck because these days, man, you can still tell with them. They're super practical. They got a lot of room.

How lifted are we talking? Can you go through the drive thru still?

Yeah. Okay. No. No, I can't. No. So I've had a few F450s that you just kind of plan to walk inside instead.

Yeah.

So, but like, it's fun, man. Like it's super fun. So like when you roll up on something with 30s and 44s and like a 17 inch lift on it, like it's fun. So like that, I would daily.

So which truck was you? Ford or?

Yeah. I'm a big Ford guy. When it comes to trucks, F450 is where it's at in my opinion.

Oh, I see most of these GM camps then that their tow rig is definitely a super duty.

Right, right, right, right. So yeah, I think a 450, an F450 that's big lifted, that's the daily. Race car. Oh, man. I don't know, because like I'm changing right now, you know, like from the GTRs, I want to go get into a small tire car. So like right now, I think like either a slammed out Fox body that makes, you know, 4000 horsepower or a Nova or something like that. That's what has my eye right now, but I still love my GTR too. So but I think I'm going to go with a small tire car. I'm going to roll up the Nova right now.

What kind of who would you go for? Like who would you have build it?

I guess my guy Logan for sure. OK, I works for me. So like I said, he worked in the NHRA for a long time.

Sure.

Elite him and his uncle, man. They hit small tire races all over the country and they tear it up. So do is keep it in house for that.

And you were thinking of what, like a 500 cubic inch, something real, real big.

Yeah, something big with big old turbos on it. Yeah, we were going to go fast with the next one. And then for show car, man, show car. That's tough. I'm not a big show car guy.

Yet you're at SEMA.

Right, right, right, right. PRI. We'll head there. That's more.

Are you going to PRI by the way?

Absolutely.

We like that event too.

Now, man, a show car.

So one way like to explain it, what are you going to go with the wife and kids get ice cream in?

The big Lyft truck. Yeah, OK. Because my kids love it. My wife loves trucks too. So she could care less about the race car, but she loves trucks. Man, I don't know, a show car.

You don't want something like a slammed Lincoln?

Yeah, that or maybe like an old C10 or something like that. I really do like bag trucks too. So something just slammed out on big wheels. I love that stuff. So probably something like that. Yeah, I think I'd probably roll with a, man, I had a 63 C10 that was bagged and stuff on smoothies. I used to love ripping that little truck around, and it was fun to go and like sit there. So yeah, probably it's probably some sort of like modernized, like old F100. That's on air with like a Coyote in it with a 10 speed, something that you can drive, but like just gorgeous. So yeah, 64 F100. That's sweet.

Are you doing shiny or are you going to patina or what's your?

I like both. So my C10 that I was talking about, that one was like there was no paint on it. So like it was just bare metal that we clear coated, a little bit of patina on it, but then we did like like bass boat metal flake on the roof. It was really cool. Yeah, that truck was sweet. And it was just fun to rip around. It had a little 5.3 in it, just nothing crazy, just fun. But man, I think more of my style is all painted up pretty and shiny.

Sure.

Yeah, that's more of my style.

Well, sweet on that note, where can everybody find you?

So on Facebook, Instagram, obviously Street Car Takeover, Race Ready Autosport, follow those two. Pretty easy. We keep it pretty similar to the name. So Street Car Takeover, Race Ready Autosport, so Instagram, Facebook, all those things. And that's where you can find us.

Dan?

You can find us at Gunna Garage on everything with two N's and...

Sure. Awesome. And then also we will be at PRI. So who do you guys want to see on at the PRI booth? Let me know. Thank you for tuning in at this point. But anyways, Chase, thank you so much for making this happen.

Appreciate it, guys.

Dude, I think I messaged you on Facebook like four years ago, or three years ago when this thing first started. So it's kind of cool to just kind of come full circle and get you on the show.

Cool. Well, I appreciate you guys having me. Thank you.

Yeah. And shout out to your production manager in the background, Joanne O'Loughlin. Thank you.

Yeah. She had some pretty big moments on your guys' podcast. Yeah.

Before we hang up the phone here, is there anything that we missed? We're pretty thorough, aren't we?

I think it worked out good.

Awesome. Well, thank you very much, Dan. Thanks for existing and we'll see you all next time. Thanks again for watching the show, guys. Be sure to go to the description down below and check out all of our sponsors. They are what make this show possible. It allows us to travel the country and talk to some really cool guests. So be sure to check them out and see you all next time.