20. Big Power Porsches, Corvettes, Pistons and Protein w/ Chazz and Jess of Nutrishop MG

Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to episode 20 of the Minnoxide Podcast. I got the number right this time, Sean.

You've been getting it consistently right.

I learned how to count, this is amazing. So introducing my co-host, Sean.

Hey guys, what's up?

The usual. And today we have two guests. We actually got two extra mics, or one extra mic in our usual setup here. So we got the main man, Chazz.

What's up, guys?

All right, and then the person who really wants to hit him right now, Jessica. So we'll kind of just jump in right now. We're just gonna start with the cars, right? Because you guys have had an absurd amount of cars over the years. And then we can get into all the Nutrishop and all that fun stuff. But let's just kick it off. What started your absolute obsession for cars? And you can chime in at any point too.

What started? Man, that's a, actually my dad, honestly, as ironic as that is, you know, even though he wasn't really much a part of the picture, but some stuff I do remember was the first time I took a ride in his Z28 Camaro, like the Catfish Camaros. It was like a 1990. That was the first thing. We did a bunch of donuts out in the cul-de-sac that we lived on, and that's pretty much what got me hooked on speed and going fast. Having fun. I mean, I don't know. That's one memory I have, good memory I have. That's what got me into it for sure. And after that, it was just, I mean, my mom bought me go-karts and dirt bikes and all that stuff, so that was just like, I just can't wait till I can buy a car, wait till I get a car. And then it just kept, it was just a spiral from there.

Yeah, cause right now you're rocking, well, you have a number of fun toys at all times, but right now you're rocking the, what, 800 horsepower 911 Turbo.

Yep, you know, the good old claimed 800 horsepower 911 Turbo S, but yeah, and it's been an interesting learning curve of a car.

Well, what do you mean by that?

Like, I don't know, part of me is just trying to figure out, like, what's the hype? Like, don't get me wrong, car's fast. I mean, but like the fact of the matter, like the next step and stuff in all the vehicle, like where it's at, it's just astronomical how much it's gonna cost me to like get to that level, and I'm like, dang man, like that's ridiculous.

So one way to describe that, so for people listening, basically, the next level would be like that 1100, 1200 horsepower range.

Yeah, 11 to 1400 would be like the next one, and that would, you know, obviously, I'm basically maxed out on that car with power, engine, trans, clutch, everything, so.

Right.

Once I do, like, if I did all those three things, those main three, I mean, yeah, then the moon is, let's just see how far we can go.

Yeah, that's the tricky part, is there is a ceiling jump there price-wise. Like, that's a pretty big fricking jump if you want to get into that next level.

Yeah, the thing is, is like my car, too, in the middle ground where that Porsche's at, like I said, I love, I do like the car. I'm not sure if I love it yet. But that-

And I agree. I mean, I don't know if you ever got to, did you ever see his Z06 back in a day, Sean?

Yeah, actually, the first time I met Chazz was- On the rally.

Oh, yeah.

You had the Z06 and we were in Nashville and we were just talking. But yeah, that Z06 was nasty. And that thing was a little bit modified, too, wasn't it?

Yeah.

To the nines.

No, that one was still weird. That one, I was truly going to the stages because that was a car that I actually enjoyed. I bought it bone stock with 1,000 miles on it, like 2016. And I just went to stages. So on your rally, it was on the second step of things that I did to it for that summer, which was the ported blower and a few other mods, full meth injection, all that stuff like that. And then had, I think I was putting down 717 to the wheels. And we kept the torque way down, just because there's still stock clutch and everything like that. So we kept the torque under seven.

It was still cooking though. I mean, you and I went across to and from Tail of the Dragon from Minnesota. And I mean, that thing was cooking. I mean, my favorite memory of that car is when we were ripping it over here by mistake, going to speed limit. And Mexico. Yeah, yeah, Mexico. Mexico. But we were cooking, like absolutely cooking. And then we got up to the left turn and go to Katie's house or whatever. And Fricky just bam, bam, bam, just the downshifting was so. Listen, I've never, Sean, you're great at manual. Don't get me wrong. But this f****** guy.

I could be better.

You, I could not believe, it was like what? Did Mario Andretti drive a manual? I don't know, probably. But who's somebody that's good at manual? I don't know, stick, stick, stick. It was amazing. It was beautiful.

Ken Block.

Oh yeah, man.

I mean, he's probably the master of the manual.

Probably. I mean, anybody that races manuals, right? Like, oh man, I actually went to Auto Crossing last week and I went to ride in a C5 Z06. And this dude, when we got to the end of his lap, I asked him like, how much horsepower is in this thing? Like, is it like 600 or something? He's like, no, 380. And I was like, holy s***, driver mod. Like, I was hanging on for dear life in that car, dude. He was ripping it. And that's like the same power that my cute little GTI makes, similar weight. So I was just like, oh my God.

Dude, in my opinion, power's not everything.

No.

You know, it's like, honestly, that's the other thing with the Porsche. It's like, that's why it's hard to also just cruise it and have fun with it, because the Vette, I can control everything with the, you know, being a manual. Where the Porsche, sure, I can paddle s***, blah, blah, blah, but the car where it's at on the power side of, it's pretty much either go or don't. There's no, I don't have an in-between.

That makes sense.

Like, when I am between four, the turbos spool really quick, and then it literally just, it's just, pssh. So it's like, ah, there's no middle ground. Like, there's no, it's either go or don't. Trust me, like, you'll know it as, like, if I ever go for a ride on a ride, like, you'll just also hear it, and then it wants to go, and then we just stop.

Dude, turbo cars, especially fast turbo cars, like, those pops and bangs are everything, man. Like, I was in Chicago last week for a conference, and we went through that tunnel, where I got that video of, like, you spooling through that tunnel. Just, those turbos are nasty, dude.

That is probably the one thing about this car that is actually really fun is it sounds really cool. I mean, it's got a really unique tone to it. It's got a really unique sound. I mean, the wastegaze, the blow off valve, I mean, everything about it. It's a noisy son of a gun for a little car.

Oh yeah, Porsches are, like, known for having a really unique exhaust note, especially when we were at Texas 2K. Harris was telling me, like, oh, you gotta listen to the Porsches, man. When they're ripping down the track at 9,000 RPM, like, that just hits different than, like, the V10s and any of the VA cars that were in it, or the V6, like, GTRs, like, it's just a whole different noise.

It's like a bomb going off, dude.

Yeah, like, with their upshifts, I mean, it's literally like a bomb going off, especially, like, a lot of those, like, high horsepower ES cars at 2K.

Like the Sissio ones, too?

Well, and the Sissio ones, yeah, I mean, just, they're just, like, literally, like, bombs on the upshift, and it's freaking crazy. I mean, that's what honestly hooked me out of Turbo S, is, like, I was on Crown Rally, and one of the guys had, like, a fully modified Turbo S, and when I heard that thing shift on track, when I had my Z06, I was like, that is my next car. Like, that's what I'm doing next.

So now that you have it, I mean, like you said, you like it, you don't love it, you're probably gonna go back to a Z06.

I think I'm for sure gonna go back to a Vette, whether it's a C7 Z06 or a C6 ZR1. I thought about trying the C6 out, because I have heard, like, that is, like, if you want a true driver, Vette, like, and power, yeah, like, the ZR1 is the way to go.

That is something that we've been pretty consistent about, like, talking about is we absolutely love the C6 Corvette, and it's a great, like, sports car that's pretty budget friendly.

Very budget friendly.

But the ZR1, that is, that is pricey.

It's, hold on, budget friendly to who? I'm broke as f***.

I'm talking about, yeah, like, not a Z06. No, you can find a nice base, like, LS3, you know, C6 is perfectly fine.

True, and we've said it multiple times on the show. I think that is probably the best Corvette ever made. I mean, I love the new C7, or not even new anymore, but I love the C7s, but the C6, just everything was perfect about that car.

Yes, exactly. So, I mean, that's why it's like, it's a toss up for what I want to do, but like, I'm pretty sure I'm going to try the C6 ZR1. You know, like, a part of me still wants to keep going with the Porsche, so a part of me, my head's more like, all right, well, hold on. Let me just make more money so I can get a ZR1.

So how come not a C8?

Boring. Actually, it's funny that you say that. I literally, my sales rep messaged me today about a C8 Z06, an anniversary edition. So he hit up me and this one other customer to ask us if we would have interest in it, because a lot of people don't want it because they can't pick the specialty color. You get black or white, and you only get one interior option for the anniversary, which it's black and white interior, so it's not bad. It actually still looks pretty slick.

Am I understanding correctly? So you only get two color options with this?

But you can build, you can add into the other options. So I can add the carbon fiber wheels. I can add the carbon ground effects. So you can still add all that stuff. The only thing I wasn't, I'm not allowed to add is the Z07, which sucks. Cause that's literally the only reason why I would want a C8 is for the Z07, but that sounds like they're limiting those. I don't know.

I feel like pink color should be like the least of the issues when it comes to picking a car color.

I think it's just cause it's the anniversary edition. It has to be like a certain like combo for like the exterior, which.

Do you know how mad I would be if I had an anniversary? I'm like, you can only buy me two gifts. Well, he would have only got a white one anyways.

I mean, I probably would have got a white one either way. Yeah, I wouldn't have got white and black interior. Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't have done that. I would have done black, red.

That would look so cool. That'd be the Panda anniversary.

Or Stormtrooper, you know.

Or Stormtrooper, yeah.

And I asked him, what is it for MSRP? And he goes, I'm working on that for you. So I did let him know that I told him, I told him what I would be potentially willing to pay over, but I was like, I'm not paying all these dumb prices that some people are willing to do like 50K over.

Yeah.

I mean, hey, even if you got the money, who cares, that's just throwing it away.

Well, yeah, we saw that happen over the pandemic with the CA when they came out, right? Like people were asking like one, one 10 or whatever. And now they've, anybody who lists one over 90 just gets laughed out of like forums now.

Especially with the Stingrays. I mean, now that the Z06 market's out, I mean, the Stingray market definitely took a crash.

Yeah.

So whoever paid over for those and didn't flip them. Sorry.

I would not want to be on the receiving end of that.

That would not be cool to see, but it's what it is.

Well, yeah. I mean, you guys have definitely fell victim to the market dropping once or twice on you. But at the same time, like you guys kind of see cars as, first of all, not a storage of value by any means. Like you're not using it to build your wealth or like flipping cars, like some people I know. But you see it as like an investment in fun, right? And granted, of course you want to pick cars that don't just tank. Like for example, like getting a brand new like M8 Bmw, that's just gonna be 60,000 less than a year.

It's not more.

Right, exactly. Dude, I saw an M8 for like 90 the other day.

Like those tank compared to like M5s, like M5s at least held pretty well, where M8s, I mean, those things kind of. Right.

It's gonna be the same thing that happened to the M6. It's the look, not personally. It's too high up of a market.

Compared to an M5.

To an M5 or people that want like a coupe, like a sporty coupe, they're not gonna spend 140K on one. They're gonna spend 70K on the M2 or an M4.

Like a base M8 is like 148 or something like that, or 144. For a base, cause I think Minnetonka's got a really pretty blue one, but they want like 170 plus for it.

They're never gonna sell that. They've been bringing it to the car shows every year since they've had it.

No, they're gonna lose their butts on that one.

Hey Sean.

Hey Harris.

Do you need a roofer?

I could use a guy.

Well, I'm glad you agree. I saw your roof. You definitely need a roofer. And guess what? I think we know a guy. Do you remember Eric from the podcast like a million episodes ago?

Yeah, of course.

Well, guess what? He is the Twin Cities finest contractor. All right. He'll get you taken care of because this summer, Minnesota being Minnesota, it's going to throw hail at your roof. It's gonna have tornadoes thrown shingles off your roof. You know what? You don't know what's gonna end up up there. And he's gonna get you taken care of because when you Google Solaire's Roofing, you're gonna see five big beautiful yellow stars. And they're gonna be telling you that he does not take a no when it comes to perfection. So you're gonna reach out to him either going through Google or you're gonna go to Solaire's cos.com. And let me tell you something, Sean. Are you going to reach out to him?

I'm gonna reach out to him today.

Well, I'm glad you answered that way because buddy, you need a new roof.

So yeah, I try to buy vehicles that hold relative value. I mean, like, how about that M5 CS?

Yeah, you made a chunk of change on that.

I made a good chunk of change on that. So don't be wrong. I took advantage of the market a little bit because why not? I mean, I still drove it. I mean, I put 6,000 miles on the sucker. Fawn car. Definitely wish I wouldn't have got. Yeah, in the winter too. I mean, fawn car. Winter time on that thing was amazing.

You remember the comments? Like, I remember posting that thing and people were so upset. Like, how dare you drive a special car like that in the winter? M***********, there's salt. You know, like just. It's not German.

And it's like, it's all right. It's whatever, it's just the car. Like, I'm not gonna have it that long.

Yeah, next guy's problem.

Next guy's problem, not mine. I actually dropped, when the dealership that bought it for me, they, I literally drove it to them and it was just covered in salt. Because literally we just left like a snowstorm and then we hit some rain and this and that. So the car was just filthy when I dropped it off.

Yeah, hopefully you agreed on a price before. We did. You saw it, before they saw it.

Well, before he drove across the country.

No, they wired the money before I drove across the country.

Nice.

Yeah, because I was not about to do that.

Well, they had a buyer lined up too, didn't they?

Yes, and then the car. Funny story, here's for your podcast. That car got stolen like a month after. Not stolen in the fact that somebody hotwired and took it. Stolen as somebody, they took a cashier's check for the full amount. They didn't think of like, hey, let's go clear it first and check it. No, they just took it. The guy took the car. The check was fake. So they literally took 170,000 dollar check and it was fake.

Oh my gosh.

Because they called me, because they were like, are you still linked to the app? Because it wasn't long after, you know, a month or a half, month, maybe two. And they were like, and I actually, if I would have enabled my location, I would have been able to find it. But since I didn't, but it was like, I was still attached to it. Like I could unlock it, lock it, alarm. I could still mess with it.

Oh my God. Imagine just trolling the guy.

I tried. They must have been driving it because we couldn't do anything. Yeah, they must have been driving it or in the car because they wouldn't do it. Cause I was trying to set the alarm off and different things like that. But yeah, and I was trying to roll the windows down and all that.

Man, that is so crazy. So that's like blue collar crime. Like, you know, they didn't just go for like a $30,000 car. They went for the moon.

You mean white collar?

What?

You mean white collar?

White collar, not blue collar.

It goes enough, same thing.

No, I was just like, when I got that call, I was like, wow. Like y'all didn't think to clear it? And I'm like, well, that's not my problem.

I already got my money.

You know, they offered me, they were like, if you guys, if you could help us, we'll send you like a hundred dollar gas card. And I'm like, if I find you, if I help you find a hundred seven dollars, our stolen car, I was like, I want more than a hundred dollar gas card. Yeah. I was like, I want more than that.

Dude, what a royal f*** up though. It's like, you should probably make sure that it clears before you give the guy the, I don't.

But that was anyways, that was one of my favorite cars, dude. That was a blast.

I wish I met you before you sold that. Cause that was actually one of the cars that I really was looking at before I got the Durango. Like that is a sick family car.

Dude, and I'm telling you right now, like coming from the 2020 M5 Comp, and then having that honestly was truly a different car. Suspension was different, handling was different. It felt, it was a balance. I mean, it felt faster. Like I was like, oh wow. I shouldn't have sold that. I should have kept it.

Yeah, that car would have been a keeper.

Yeah, I should have kept that one. Cause like now like, you know, Michael, he's kept his and he's modified it a little bit and whatnot. And like he keeps thinking about selling it, but he just keeps holding onto it. Cause he says it's a blast.

So, maybe we'll all get into one.

Dude, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, man. If you ever see them come back down, man. What are they at now?

150.

150, 160. So they're still sitting up just above like what they were for MSRP. But there were like 170, 180. Well, there was some that sold for 200, 205. Wow, I sold mine for 175.

I don't understand that dude. Why would somebody like, it's a car that's so obviously gonna go back down like heavily. If you buy it at 200 and it plummets 50K, even if it's a special car, it's not gonna be worth that for at least 20 years. Yeah, and at that point, inflation will outpace whatever the hell it grows.

Yeah, anything you're gonna make off of it. I mean, it's just ridiculous.

Somebody must have really wanted, but at the same time, like a lot of people, they don't keep it for the full term. But I feel like that, again, in the last year, if it dropped like 30, 40K, it's a big pill to swallow, dude.

That's why I was happy to get rid of it when I did, because that would have definitely sucked. I mean, granted, I paid MSRP for it, so no matter what, even right now, I would still be in the green. But it's like, man, I definitely would not have taken advantage of it if I couldn't have. Paid off a lot of debt.

Yeah, that definitely helped.

It helped just eat up everything and kind of reset what we can buy. Because now it's like, mm, 991.2 is next, maybe.

Yeah, sometimes you just got to downsize.

Dude, I can't tell you how many times I've done that. Like with Ebbing and flowing in cars, where eventually I'm just like, ah, I'm gonna take a break. Last like six months, maybe, if that. And then I'm like, nope, just kidding. Summertime's here, I need something fun to drive. Can't do it.

I know, that's how I've been feeling. Everybody that I know has gotten like a new toy for the spring and I'm looking at them like, I would love a new toy, but at the same time, I got different priorities right now and I think I can wait one more year.

Yeah, like literally once 12 months.

And yeah, it's such a short time when you think about the grand scheme of things and it's just like one car show season. Like I can get by with the 1M. It's still plenty of fun.

Oh dude, that's gotta be a fun car.

Yeah.

I mean, that's gotta be a fun car to drive. That's why I kind of like the smaller cars to rip around, but that's why I thought I really want to take the Porsche on track. So I really want to see how it feels like on corners and all that. Cause that'll really, I think, solidify my decision if I keep it or I sell it.

And you're a good driver too. So it's not even like...

Well, thank you. I like to think so sometimes.

I mean, like from what I've heard, you are a good driver. So you can handle that car around a track. That's for sure.

When we were in freaking, when we rented the track down on the rally, like the guy, the one of the instructors there was like a professional Ferrari driver. And he gave you a compliment. He's like, your lines are pretty good, man.

Like, I thought I was pretty surprised about that. When I heard that from him, I was like, win. I was like, Ferrari driver gave me a compliment. I'll take it. I was like, I'm taking that one to the grave with me.

Yeah, those guys were legit. Yeah, that guy, I was riding with, I think it was with him. I was in the Lotus, like doing like video and footage or whatever on the track. And I had to just rip in it. I mean, just feels confident behind the wheel.

Well, like he gave me another comment cause like I ripped behind him for a little bit. So I let him end up, he had to pass me cause he knows the track way better. So like, I was like, screw it. I was like, why not get behind the pro? So he got in front of us and then I just took, I think I had Alec in the car with me at this time. So Alec was just having a blast, but like I got behind him dude and I kept up, like I probably stayed behind, I was probably about a car and a half, two cars, maybe at most behind him on some corners. Cause some corners he just went in dude and kicked it out, didn't care, just whoa.

They used to have fun.

Yeah, I was like, oh, I was like, man, he's just throwing that little Lotus around, but it was fun trying to keep up with them. Did you get kicked off? Yeah, I got asked. Cause he was, when I was behind him, I was actually going a little bit harder and actually like pushing my RPMs up.

Oh yeah.

So like when we got done and got off, he came up to me and he goes, he goes, you broke the barrier.

The sound barrier.

Yeah, he's like, what a hit. He's like 120. I was like, whoops. And I was like, eee. He's like, I was gonna give you a warning, but he goes, next one you're getting black flagged. And I got black flagged.

Yeah, that's one of the downsides to tracks nowadays is a lot of them are starting to have more and more like sound restrictions, which sucks.

Yes. I mean, you know, that was probably one of my funnest track events, though. I will have to say your rally's track event was a fricking blast. That one I will, for one, I always remember as an event that was definitely a blast to do. So that, you could definitely take that one with you.

I'm gonna make sure to look at the camera when I say this. Buy tickets when I make another f****** rally.

Dude, I'm telling you, man, that was so much fun. Especially with the drivers and trucksters you guys had. I mean, they were super cool. I mean, that was, that honestly was a blast. It's actually, yeah, that is bad, but dude, I mean, I had a blast. I had so much fun.

Did you hear my rant, what was it, three episodes ago? So, I mean, realistically, at some point in my life, I do wanna bring back rallying. It's just not the right time for me right now because I'm in the career building phase of where I'm at. But the rant, basically, that I had, sorry to the people that listened to this, I'll make it brief. I wanna make the biggest rally ever across all 50 states, a month long set of, yeah, so basically you jump on where you want. So it's like, for example, if you wanna go from Minnesota to Chicago, and then let's say, Jess, you fly in, you wanna go at the end of the month from Florida to Texas or whatever, basically customize your own rally. And then every single weekend would be a festival in a different state. So basically that's the dream if I get a million dollar budget. But that's a few years down the line.

But you could probably do that if you're less than a million dollar budget.

Not the way I wanna.

He's trying to get Amazon involved. He wants a whole recording for it.

No, I wanna make it a full blown docu-series. Put it on the vision board, bro. It's on the vision board. Every time I close my eyes, I see a to-do list. So.

Well, that's not a bad thing. But definitely putting it on paper, man. I'll be sweet. I hope I'm still alive for that.

Jesus.

Hey man, you know, sometimes like, I feel like I'm my cat with nine lives and I've already used like six.

Well, you got three more. Don't f*** it up.

I got three more. Yeah, don't f*** it up. So, the sixth one was pretty bad. So, I'm gonna be okay.

So, let's talk a little bit about how cars kind of cross over into your day-to-day life, which as a supplement shop owner at Nutrishop, I mean, I know you guys host a car show there now, which is coming up, what is it, May 28th?

Yeah, like next weekend.

Yeah, next Sunday. Yeah, yeah, so I mean, this comes out on Monday. So yeah, people will know. So come to Sunday at Nutrishop or whatever. I think it should be really good weather too.

Yeah, I think it's supposed to be like really nice weather all week. So like, you know, like compared to, the first one turned out pretty well actually for the crappy. Considering how s*** it was out. Now it's gonna be, if it gets nice, like we're talking at least double the amount.

You're gonna pack that parking lot because a lot of people didn't know about it. Then you had that Dave and Buster's, that parking, listen, it's gonna be a problem.

Hey, you know what? It'll be, it's not a problem until the city gives me a call. You know, once they give me a call, I'll be like, my bad. They turned into a lot bigger than I thought. I just was not expecting that.

Yeah. And then ultimately, I mean, then really people could also park across the street too. Like if it gets big enough, like then go over to like that, like that guitar center parking lot or whatever.

There's that, there's Costco's right there too. I mean, Costco's got a wide, massive lot. I mean, yeah, there's still a ton of area over there to like hang out and whatnot. Cause I get those shows from eight to 10. You know, we'd like to do before businesses are open and stuff like that, but we're open the entire time. So people want to know that, like you guys can come in and check things out and look at stuff and sample things.

Thank God it was open, dude, because it was fricking cold that day. Like the wind was insane. Like everybody, like that store was, I think it had no less than 40 or 50 people inside.

I think if I didn't have the store open, I don't think as many people would have stuck around as long as they did.

It's great for conversation though.

Oh, a hundred percent. I mean, I met a lot, I met a few other people that I've never met before from the car season. So it was cool.

Which is the goal.

Yeah, which is the goal. I mean, the other day, I mean, trying to bring health and wellness to people too is my goal.

I think you've done great in that aspect, like connecting car enthusiasts to fitness and nutrition. Like, for example, we run this 90 day transformation challenge that you guys have been a part of and I've been a part of for two years now.

It's been two years.

It's been two years now. Yeah, because Terry started that during COVID. Him and MJ.

Holy crap.

It's probably been more, but that's kind of when I, because like the round I won was in November 21. That's when I got down to 197. And as you can tell by the, how warped my face looks on the camera, I'm not fat, but nonetheless, most of the people in that challenge are car enthusiasts. So for anybody who doesn't know, which you probably don't, it's like a hundred dollar buy-in top three winners who had the biggest body transformation win first, second, third based on the payouts. That basically explains that. So you have been a great source for, well, I guess building their routines, but then also for supplementation and nutrition.

Yeah.

So I guess, and I think that applies to so many car enthusiasts.

Well, I mean, you gotta think about it. If you let your health go to s***, are you gonna be able to enjoy your car?

Oh, good point.

I mean, that's kinda, I kinda look at it like, I mean, an example of this is, I got family members, that have just kinda let their health go to s***, but they're big into bikes or they're big into cars, but their knees are going out, their backs going out, they're super overweight and they get mad because they can't enjoy their toys anymore. They got all this money in these toys, but then every time they ride them, all it is is complaining and whining or you're down for a week. So it's like, kinda goes hand in hand. I wanna be as healthy as I can for as long as I can to enjoy the toys that I have.

That's a good point. I remember, I think it was a year or two ago, I saw a gentleman sell his Viper. I can't remember if it was an ACR or not. I think it might've been a GTSR. And the guy basically had to sell it because he literally just couldn't shift anymore because he's just gotten so weak or his legs are just f***** up or whatever. I can't remember. He might've had a heart attack too. I can't remember. But all I know is that his health was like, he just couldn't anymore. And even for me, right? Because I'm a big guy. If I eat like a lot of fried food and stuff over the course of months, and if I just get heavy and my mobility goes to s***, getting out of my car, literally like it's just, it's a pain in the a** because I'm a big boy. Like, and I've damaged my knees, you know, but through 75 hard and all that. But-

Dude, I'm telling you, man, that's why I look at it and like trying to like help you look. Cause it's like, how you gonna look at it, man, look, what stuff you love and love to do right now. How long do you want to do it? You know, I was like, you gotta take care of yourself now. So like you can still do those things when you hit 60, 65. I'm sorry, I still want to be able to go on a softball diamond and go play at 60 years old. And be able to hit a ball and run the bases. Like, I still want to be able to do all of that when I'm in my 60s, 70s, like as far as as long as I can until I can't breathe anymore.

That a boy, I love it. It's inspirational.

So, well, I don't know. I've done a lot of taking in life, so therefore now I'm doing a lot more giving.

I think that's, yeah, I mean, people come in and they just kind of like, for example, we brought Sean over there a few weeks ago and got more than a few weeks.

Yeah, about about two months. I needed to seriously come in. I was going to come in during your next car show because I am almost out of supplements.

Yeah, man, I got you, dude. Well, we know what to take care of. Yeah, swing in Sunday for the show.

Yeah, exactly. And it's just, you know, I've been meaning to come, but it is a 45 minute drive.

Yes.

So it's like I got to pick my time wisely.

Sean, I'm beginning to think you're un-serious about your health, buddy.

Could I just call me to ship it to you, too?

Oh, really? OK, cool. And also, we want to kill two birds with one stone. We wanted to go to that Maple Grove cigar shop.

Oh, yeah, tobacco grove.

Yeah, tobacco grove. That's what it's called. They have one of the largest walk in humidor's in Minnesota.

Massive, dude. People, the guys that work there are awesome.

Yeah.

Super, super cool, dude. They shop at Nutrishop, too.

I would love to go there and shop with them, too.

Oh, dude, I'm telling you, man. And they know a lot of stuff.

Yeah. When we went to Texas, we went to a cigar shop and we had the guy working there. He helped us pick out some really good cigars. Like, I got some really good ones. I enjoyed all of them. You got some new ones that you really enjoyed as well.

Well, I enjoyed most of them half the time.

You got to find your heaviness of what you want. Like, you know, your darkness. Like, you know, do you want it light, medium? Do you want it mild?

I like it heavier, but the thing is, because I like to get f***** up, but I do like them a little bit more on the sweeter side.

I like them. Yeah, I'm more of the medium. I like the middle. The middle ground seems to be kind of perfect.

Yeah, I love how we went from like talking about like all this healthy, inspirational stuff. Yeah, smoke a big fat stogie too.

In moderation, people.

Yeah, moderation.

In moderation, you know, you can treat yourself on the course here and there.

Yeah, do you smoke one today on the course?

I did not. I did not have any. I'm surprised I didn't because me and my buddy Michael usually always have a cigar together. It didn't help that she had to like ride on my lap because this course was so busy. They didn't have another cart. So yeah, so Jess literally ran on my lap, rode on my lap the entire round.

Yeah, and then our cart died.

And then our cart died. Literally on the last hole. I was like whew.

It couldn't take the weight anymore.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the weight killed the battery from going like up the hills.

It just absolutely drained it.

We almost didn't make it up the hills. This bulk man has been a little bit too much.

So what you're telling me is if you get too fat, your Tesla's range goes down.

Correct. Absolutely. Weight matters, man. Don't get me wrong. Size matters. Awkward silence. But, s***, now I lost my train of thought.

Son of a b****, we're just gonna let that silence marinate for a little bit.

Yeah, this is a great spot for our sponsors.

Oh yeah, that's another thing that everybody's been b******* to me about. It's like, dude, you gotta pick a better spot for the sponsors. The thing is, Sean, is we're 29 minutes in, and people, you know, we don't know. We don't know if they're gonna even make it this far because they're probably done driving right now. And they're just like, meh, I'm gonna wait till the next episode.

All right, well, you know, speaking of sponsors, we recorded a tagline for you. Have you listened to it at all?

I haven't even given it to him yet.

No? Oh, yeah, that's right. You said you haven't even had time to put it together.

It basically goes something like this. Hey, biggie big guy.

Oh my God.

And it's like basically like, you know, Sean's amazing transformation. Cause like, I remember like you came out here one day, you're just like, bro, I seen muscles.

Yeah.

Is it just like that too?

Yeah, I would love to go back. You got like the little machine that like scans your whole body. And I like to compare like my, I still have that first sheet and all the numbers on it. And I want to compare what it is. Cause I seriously feel like I've, you know, and I've, you know, your brother pointed it out. My wife's pointed it out. I've noticed like it's seriously as I've noticed. You don't say it as much as they do.

Every epsilon.

Like for all your glutes, look at fire.

Yeah, bro.

Jim bros, we're allowed to say that.

Every time Sean comes up here, I'm like, damn that a**.

Oh, he even bit the bottom lip, folks.

It's getting spicy in here.

Check the tapes. Check the tapes.

I think I'm leaning far back enough to where they didn't see that. But no, there's something to be said about that scan machine at your, the eVault that you have over at your shop. It's kind of like a dino for people really. Like when it comes to, because first of all, it can show you like, let me restart here. So basically you put in all your information and it's like, all right, I'm this old, this big, blah, blah, blah.

This active, you know, stuff like that. Right, I'm a body type.

Correct. So for example, I'm 23 and when I get fat, like I am right now, it says I'm 25. So I'm two years older than I actually am. But at the same time, when I was absolutely crushing it, when I was like 197, I had like a really good rating. I was like a year younger biologically. Now granted, and you've admitted to this too, it's like they have a little margin of error, but it's, as long as you're actually measuring the same way every time, it's pretty bang on.

It at least gets you a very, very close, obviously like if you want to go get a 100% scan once in a while, like I always recommend doing.

Like a DEXA or whatever.

You know, go get a DEXA or go get a Hydro, that's like a hydrostatic scan, like basically go under submerged underwater, like, you know, there's a couple of scans where it literally will get you like a true 100% rating. Obviously those ones are very brutal because they're very, very honest and very, very accurate. I mean, very, very accurate.

I like how you say that and then.

They are, they are, because even though you like, you know, say like this machine tells me I'm, say it says I am 12% body fat. You know what I mean? But I go on and do this one, get the 100% reading. It will actually come back and maybe say I'm 21%. You know what I'm saying? Like it's not friendly by any means, but it's giving you like a full accurate reading on like where your skeletal muscle mass is at, you know, where your body fat mass, where you're holding most of it, stuff like that. I mean, it's pretty cool to do once in a while. You know, if you really get serious about it, like I was recommending, like you can go do it. You know, go get 100% accuracy.

Yeah, it's good for like a benchmark. Like it's like 90, 95% of the way there, especially if you do it like fasted in the morning. But if you like do it after a long day at work when you're super dehydrated, it's just gonna be way off. Which I've noticed, like even like after a workout when I absolutely pound like a liquid IV, right? Like it brings my like muscle mass way up and my fat down. So it's like, there's some variation to it, but ultimately you're cheating yourself if you don't do it the same way every time. Cause you know, you can lie to the machine, but.

I always recommend it. And I understand scheduling sometimes just doesn't play a role. But you know, obviously like at least still gets us in a ballpark of like what's going on with your body, especially that helps me be able to dial people in and really actually truly point them in the right direction instead of just feed them a bunch of BS.

Here's an idea. What about once a month at the show? Get people starting scanning. I don't know, you can figure out some sort of incentive or whatever, like that's how you can run your challenges or whatever too. Cause you have that next challenge, which everybody should enter so I could take your money. But basically like a 60 day transformation challenge based purely off of data. So yeah, I think that'd be good. Like do it at the show.

Yeah, no, we're hoping to do something like that here. Kind of going forward as we get more into these shows and depending on what happens and like, I mean, shoot, you never know if it grows enough. Like eventually we will truly try to find a spot where we can actually go in Maple Grove and host a big, a bigger event. That'd be kind of cool if it gets to that. I mean, if it does, it does. If it doesn't, it doesn't. I'm cool with just a little meet and, you know, meet new people.

Little is good, man. Like.

Personal, not little. It's more of a personal get together.

Yeah, you know, it's a little personal get together. A little meet up, talk about protein and talk about, you know, gains and talk about cars.

I love how she's the only one that got that. By the way, like I just had total mental breakdown. I said, little is good.

Right. And what is the name of the show again?

Pistons and Protein.

Pistons and Protein, yeah.

We did free shirts for the first one and we'll probably do some more, like another giveaway, free things, items, probably t-shirts again. Muscle T's? On the last show. Yeah, like muscle, like more like, well, no. I mean, just your, just like standard t-shirts.

Regular t-shirts?

But like, you know, I make sure to kind of get nice high quality ones so they last.

You guys were good about that. I didn't pick one up on that show, but.

I have an extra one.

It looks good, okay.

I have a couple extra XLs so I can give you guys both of those.

Perfect, thank you.

Call me large.

Trust me, you want to size up on these ones. These ones are a little bit tight. I had to do a 3X.

You know what breaks my f****** heart is I have that Cisio hoodie from Texas, 2K and it shrunk.

The white one?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like my sleeves are just too short or whatever. I should have sized up on that one. Got a double XL. Like it sucks. I love that hoodie. And it's like, it's literally up to like my, like halfway up to my elbow.

Oh, you know what you can do? You just cut the sleeves and you can Oh God, no. Rock the short sleeve sweatshirt.

I like the rock.

I would sooner throw it.

Oh hell yeah. Just cut out, yeah. Just make it a muscle sweatshirt.

All right, two things. I am nowhere near to f****** rock. Secondly, I would sooner jump in front of Mike's Mustang instead of doing that.

Oh boy. So hold on. Are you guys gonna be attending the Battle of the Brands?

I think that's next Saturday, right?

That's next weekend, isn't it?

I think so. Yeah, it was next weekend. I think it was a Saturday or Sunday.

I have not planned for that.

Well, nothing. This is this whole, that whole next week, I'm supposed to go see Tony, but No battling of brands. But I was going to race at Battle of the Brands.

Yes, it is next Saturday at 10 a.m. Thank you for the announcing voice.

Well, yeah, I was going to go race the car at Battle of the Brands. I was going to do the Roll Race event.

And where is that?

Rock Falls Raceway.

Rock Falls.

That'd be perfect for you and Durango.

Because they stopped allowing them to do the, at the, what is it, airport?

Yes.

Yeah, at the runway.

Well, bad on the brands. That's Eurocharged and Ratified is putting it on, I think, is who's putting that on.

Oh, yeah.

So Eurocharged Minneapolis and Ratified. And then obviously, I think like, you know, most performance is going to be there. And a few of the other shops, I'm sure, like EuroTech and Technic and Mechanical. All those guys, I'm sure, will have somebody there, somebody representing them. I don't know. I guess I've never done it. It's their first one. So you best believe, though, I mean, I feel like in the Roll Race event, I think I could do okay. I don't know. I mean, it depends on if the car holds together.

I would not do okay. I need it. That's what I hated about when I was in Texas, was that everything is roll racing down there. And if I found where we could do dig racing in the Durango, I would have done very well. But I know Brainerd, they have the Wednesday night drag and drift. And I went to that this month and I had a lot of fun.

Let me know next time you go.

Yeah, I'm trying to go next time because I got an 11.27. That was my best quarter mile time and I didn't air down my tires and I didn't tune for my race gas tune.

So I was running a low 10.

So I know exactly. So with airing down my welds and with the race gas tune equipped, I should be in that either high 10s, mid 10s. It's a mega good tree. And I was having, yeah, I know. I had a really bad 60 foot as well because I didn't air down. I was spinning all four tires up to about 60 miles an hour.

Launch in second.

Launch in second? Okay, I'll have to try that.

A lot of the track out guys I see dragging their like high horsepower. They were, I always see them talking about launching in second. Really? Launch in second. Cause it causes the tires not to blow off right away. So like, sure, your 60 foot will lose a little bit, but then you're not blowing the tires off and you're getting grip right away.

All right, great. I'll have to try that next time.

Try it, try it.

And it's so much time. I think the gates open at three o'clock and it goes till eight.

Yeah, I was gonna say, it goes till dark.

I'm pretty sure. It goes till about eight.

Yeah.

I mean, like the drag portion closes at eight. They'll drift all night.

Yeah. Oh dude, man, let me know next time we go up. I mean, I definitely would. I mean, I might just do some soft launches on the Porsche.

Yeah.

You know, I'll just do some soft launches.

You like it soft. Didn't you say you needed a fire suit for this one?

Oh yeah, since I ran faster than 11.5, they said I needed a fire suit.

Oh, you're screwed. I wonder what the car would do if I actually had clutches. I feel like it's a nine second car. At least pretty damn close. At least high nines, probably high nines. If it's like, gets good traction, if I had to guess, like if I could kill two and launch it, I would assume high nines is what it would do, but we won't know until I spend 10 Gs on clutches.

It's never ending.

Well, as it sucks, it's like the next step, man, is like literally, is like, is literally like anything's below 10 grand. No, like literally, I was like, oh, no, it's the Porsche tax. Yes, it is. It is real. Trust me. And I didn't think it was going to be that real on an older one. Yeah, no, it's just as bad, just as bad. Like I should have went with the 991 now that I should have done my research a little bit better like I usually do. And I should have bought a dot too, because that fuel system is good for like eight, nine hundred to the wheels. I was like fudge. My transmission is stronger.

And that's the word you're using, fudge. Nothing's stronger.

We're on a family friendly podcast. Are we though?

Are we though?

This is serious.

Thank you for listening.

I mean, technically my mom might be listening to these as well.

Oh my, I really do wonder what people's mothers think of me sometimes.

My mom likes you. What's that? My mom loves you.

I get along well with anybody that's 35 plus, by the way. Let's be clear about that. Who was I talking to about this today? I was talking with Nez, because he's about my age as well, right? And I'm just like, bro, I just get along with older women. Like I'm like the opposite of Leonardo DiCaprio. Like I want 25 plus. You heard?

Anyone over 35, come get them.

Yeah, I was like, hey, he's single guys. Anybody over 35?

I gotta go set my grinder. I mean, Tinder.

Oh my gosh. But what do you think is my favorite, your favorite car of mine that I've had in the last, since you know me.

All day long. Are you sure?

Choose your.

I love the Supra. I do, I do. That's for me. But for Chazz, I can't see him in a Supra.

I do not want.

Oh God, no, that's mine. Chazz, look into my f****** eyes when I tell you this. Do not get a f****** Supra for yourself. No, it's mine. Unless it's an S58, then we'll talk. But if they ever get an S58 in those.

If they ever do it. Yeah. I don't mind what if they do it.

F*** you, respectfully. No, disrespectfully. No, I'm kidding. I'm going to put a deposit. If they put an S58 in the Supra, if, this is a big if.

They've talked about it.

Who?

As their last year, last run, they might do it.

And now it's in the M2.

So.

Yeah. And they may, I think they just basically just wanted BMW to have their shot with it. Cause like BMW is always going to keep their gold to themselves first. But boy, if they put that S58 in there.

I mean, especially with how the new M2 is already. Oh boy. I mean, like they just killed their M4 market.

Oh yeah, no s***. Yeah. Cause you get an M2 and you just.

I mean, sure. I see the only thing that difference is you can get the X drive and the M4, which is whatever I get. I mean, I understand that, but still, I mean, like the performance, if you're just strictly trying to buy a performance, like fun car, I mean, save the 20 Gs, buy an M2. Like literally that's, save the 20 grand and that's 20 years, your 20 grand in mods that'll make you 750 horse with just a down payment of dude. And so fuel, you see that new M2 that made like 720 or something like that, 730 to the wheels. I was like, oh my God. I was like, I might need one.

It's like that scene in, or any of the scenes in Tom and Jerry, right? When they're just jaw just f****** drops and the ground just makes that like iron clanging sound like boom, dude, all these new cars are getting insane.

Oh man, with like just the minimal mods they need and they're just fast. We have an S58. Remember? I mean, yeah, that's right.

In the X4?

In the X4 M. So that was the first year the S58 came out. It was in the 2020. So we're interested. We're gonna downpipe it through that. Cause those things are at power cruise. There was two X3 M's that were just hauling a**, I guess like 700 plus horse to the wheels.

So crazy, dude.

Like downpipes and tune and like maybe intakes on them. Like that's it.

Do you remember back in the day what you had to do to even get 500 wheel out of a car? Like, I mean, we're talking like early 2000s.

Yeah, full bolt-ons, yeah.

15, 20 grand.

Well, like back then, it was pretty much like full bolt-ons was like fully built, unless you were a true drag racer. Full bolt-ons was like a fully built car on the street. Now it's fricking.

That's standard.

Yeah, now that's just standard. Like you're slow if you're full bolt-ons.

Yeah, I know. I remember like, it's so hard to be like part of that. Like you could beat 99% of the cars on the road now. I feel like that ceiling has gone so much higher. And even if you go full bolt-on, you're probably like able to be 80% of the cars on the road.

Yeah, I do. Because some of the cars just from the factory now are just like fast. And it's, I don't know, Matt, what some of these new drivers are, all these drivers I've been seeing in Minnesota. I was like, oh my gosh, don't give me them. Don't give these guys faster cars.

It's not gonna be a problem. No, I think it's gonna be a problem in about 10 years. Maybe five or 10. Okay, let's put it this way. When the 392 Scatpacks and all those, when those plummeted in price, look what happened. We have all these takeovers everywhere. But five, six years ago, takeovers weren't really a thing because, well, those Scatpacks were pretty fricking expensive.

Yeah, they were 60 Gs.

Yeah.

I mean, like they were a thing, mostly in California. And then news media got a hold of it and like blew it out of proportion. And then everyone's like, oh, I want to do that. I can do that.

FCA was giving out 25% interest rates.

That's true. Didn't help that anybody could literally apply and get approved.

Like, imagine all the repuls coming. Just imagine.

And stolen. So many of those Hellcats get stolen.

Yeah, three from my dad's dealership a couple years ago.

Yeah, I mean, this is ridiculous. Like, oh my gosh. I was worried about the Drakon getting stolen, honestly, because I seen how easy those ones are to get stolen.

I hate you for getting rid of that car. I hope you know that.

We hate it too. Dude, I hate it too. I, that was a fun fricking, that was a fun truck. It's literally here.

Or right back.

Probably a mile away from it.

You want to go door knocking?

No, he's not home.

I think he got it wrapped. It's green now.

Oh, is that, oh, that one.

Oh, that's his.

Did he have to go back and do some stuff for a little bit again?

I'm not sure.

That's what Katie said because he's like, they're like, yeah, the trackhawk's been like parked for like a month. Yeah, because they were like, he hasn't moved. And I was like, oh, he's like, go see if he'll buy it back. And I was like, yeah. I was like, I'll go get a white one. I want a white one.

Yeah, didn't they, weren't they trying to like get too much for that car?

Yeah, 10 grand over.

10 grand over, 10 grand more than what it was valued at. So I was like, no, no, no. I was like, it was at 51,000 miles. So I was like, it was a little bit higher mileage. So I was like, yeah. I was like, that's going to be at 100K by next year.

That's something that I've been seeing a lot on Facebook marketplace too, like with private sellers, they are just asking astronomical prices. It's like the honey, like I'm selling the car, but not really because I posted it for about 40,000 over what the actual value of the car is. Like it's not ever going to get sold. And you see people comment all the time. They're like, this has got to be a joke. Like, you know, this is like a, you know, like OP smoking crack. Like these are like, you've got to be kidding me with these prices.

Oh no dude, it's ridiculous. Most people are just doing it just to see if they can get it. That's the thing is most people are just posting it to see if they can get it. They're posting it stupid high to maybe get offered 20 less and then there's still 20 above where they, you know, realistically where they should have been and they sell it.

I mean, like I understand that. Like, yeah, obviously you post higher. So when people come at you to lowball you, that's more like where you want to be at, but like.

50K over is a bit far.

Yeah, it's just so disheartening to see. Like, I just want to see like true reality prices.

Again.

No.

But I don't think.

Oh, come on. You want a Supra, don't you? You trying to buy a Supra over here.

You want the market to go out a little bit, go back to normal a little bit.

I want the market to explode, but if you know what I'm saying. No, but no, like.

Yeah, your Golf GTI should cost 50K. That's definitely a true, yeah, true accurate fact for those GTIs.

Freaking, oh man. But I saw like even like Supras, like I see a lot of people like listing them at like 60, 65. I'm like, you're smoking some top shelf dick, dude. Like, no, you're not like, don't get me wrong. It's an amazing car. It's a great bang for buck, but you don't set how much that buck is.

No, there's a super one you can't tune. And then the manual one that we tried to get.

Oh, you tried to get a manual?

Yeah, they promised MSRP.

It came in and they said, oh, just kidding.

There's an $8,000 markup.

You're now paying $67,000 for a Supra.

That should be 55 grand. Yeah, I was like, no, I'm good.

I don't know, but that could actually be pretty good in a couple of years because they were only going to make a manual for one year.

Now they're an option.

No, now they're not.

Oh, now it's an option. Okay, I thought it was just the special edition. They only were going to make like 300.

Yeah, they're only doing that, but then that's just that See You Later gray and then that matte like frozen white with the tan interior.

I love that frozen white.

Yeah, and then.

That's actually one of my favorite whites.

And now the factory, just regular premium.

I thought that was your favorite white.

No, don't take it there.

He took it there.

No, OK, but that annoys the s*** out of me when it comes to manufacturers and you as a Hellcat Durango owner, you could probably sympathize with this because they will say one thing and they'll be like, oh, we'll see what happens.

Sold them all in a month. They're like, oh, make more. No, I mean, like, don't get me wrong.

OK, so there's like a few cases where I actually do like that. Obviously I don't like it for the Durango's, but when they said the Toyota Corolla's, they were going to make more like that's great. So the GR's like I want to see more cars like that. Yes. I don't want that to be like a limited batch number. And then, you know, I'm glad they saw success in it and then I just sit and you never even see them on the road. People are just buying all these cars for oversticker and this parking them and they're going to make like I haven't seen any 400 400 Z's on the road.

She won.

I haven't seen any. And it's because the markup on them is crazy. They're up like 70 K and they're not they're not any better than they're worse than a Supra and I'd say worse than a GR. Corolla.

I would take a GR. Corolla over that 400 Z to 100 100 percent garbage car.

Like I mean, it really is because like the Q 50 engine or whatever. Right. And you can't get over like what 500 horsepower.

You get like I think I'm like the stock like full bolt-ons. I think they make about close to six.

But then after that, you have to dump a mountain of money.

Yeah, well, even to that, I mean, like there was a lot of money. I like what AMS tested it out. I mean, they had a s*** ton of parts on it and fended it and everything like that. But it was probably like 20 K worth of s***, if not more to make less horsepower than super did with the similar bonds.

Exactly. It's such it's sad. And I think a lot of people realize that. And that's why nobody's buying them.

Because like honestly, you know how much money how many of those they would have probably sold if they were just kept in that sticker. Because the value is there, the market for them.

Who's buying a $70,000 car that's, you know, slower and worse? Yeah, exactly. And that's where it should be. It should be in the $40,000. The market that is like the, you know, 20 to 35 year olds who want, you know, that that Z heritage like but upgraded because like, you know, some people have like those new 370 Z nismos like they got those brand new because they like the brand. But I feel like the 400 Z price wise just doesn't make sense.

I feel like a lot of the majority of car manufacturers, though, they definitely have expanded off of special editions these last couple of years to like mark them up. You know what I'm saying? Like TRX is a good example. Like they just came out with a lunar edition and it's like a hundred and like 10,000 MSRP.

Oh, yeah.

There's literally no true real difference besides the color.

Yeah, like the Havoc edition when they first or was the first launch edition, the ignition edition, and then the sand edition, the yellow one, there's not the ignition, there's a yellow one now.

It's like, what? Why? But like nothing changes just for a color. It's like, if you're going to make it a special edition, I mean, truly make something different about it. More horsepower, more off road stuff.

Yeah, make it look different. Make it a Baja truck, make it like a street sleeper, whatever. Yeah. Yes. Go ahead.

No.

No.

I'm the manufacturer today. No.

I mean, yeah. I mean, realistically, that's what it is. But I'm just saying like in general, like you notice like a lot of car makers, like they literally came out with so many special editions in the last like two years to like expound off the market, I think.

Do you know who's the worst at that? Before I say it, no, Dodge is not too bad at it. I mean, they're up there, but.

All the all the last calls that they just came out with, like I don't know. I couldn't even name like one or two.

Yeah, actually. Good point. Because I saw a s*** time.

There's like three or four new like challenge or like different challenger and like charger like additions coming out before they add. It's like, I thought you guys said you were ending them like last year.

Yeah, like why? I think the Lamborghini is probably the worst out of all of them though. You know how many freaking limited edition STOs they are not STOs, Huracans they had.

What do they got like six or seven variations right now?

Yeah, something like that, it's ridiculous and it's like they got like the Huracan Technica, they got that Huracan STO and then they got like the final edition and it's like the Evo and it's like for Fremont, you know, it's like there's like a challenger lineup.

Yeah, literally. I mean, it's very similar to that, I mean, it's very similar to that. It's just really funny to see the whole like that, like a couple of manufacturers that didn't really do a ton of that was like Porsche doesn't really do a ton of that. They stick to pretty much their GTS and blah, blah, blah.

Because they have so many different models already.

Yes.

That's the difference, whereas Dodge, they're bread and butter from 2015 to now. I wouldn't say right now, because the Hellcats, they aren't selling in the mass numbers like they used to, but you have to remember, Hellcats were initially supposed to only be like, I think 10,000 or something like that, maybe 15.

Yeah, dude, 2014 was a crazy year. They found absolute amazing success in building a 700 horsepower car for the 15th, but yeah, fricking, it was ridiculous, like it's like cavemen finding fire, they're like, we can do a lot.

Because it is a great platform. There's a reason that they became a benchmark, because I mean, you may like a lot of people clown on Hellcats now, but they were serious s*** in 2015, 16 and 17. And then other manufacturers started really playing catch up, the GT 500 came out, then there was the horsepower wars and all that. And now you can get a 10 speed like Mike's build it to that, like barely put any money in there realistically.

15k and you basically make 8900.

Right and I mean, you're all in, you're like, maybe like what, 50, 60k total? Yeah.

With the car. I mean, some of the Mustang mods you can do on these new gen 3 5.0s are ridiculous, don't get me wrong. Like, I'd probably lose the Mike. Maybe. I don't know. I'd probably lose Doby, but 30 makes like 900, doesn't he?

I don't know. That number keeps changing.

It's only 505 bro.

Hey man, yeah, I'm only 499. I got the, I got the dyno sheet to prove it.

I remember that. That was freaking hilarious.

Well, it's funny. I told Nez that last year when we, him and I did some pulls last year that I, the Wastegate was on, the s*** tune that I was on was only making like, made like 499 of the wheels and he goes, wow. And I think he was making like six and it just was walking a lot of people surprisingly on that little crappy tune. Now it's a lot faster.

It's still gonna take me for a rip in a new tune.

Let's go. I'm burning the tank down right now to put race gas in.

How much more you got to burn?

Half tank.

What's that? Like five minutes?

Race gas in it, yes.

Well, you have the big gas tank in it, don't you?

It's got a little bit of a bigger, it's got basically damn near a 15 gallon tank. It's like 15.

Oh, 15. Okay. I thought it had the extended range tank.

Nah, it's got like 14, five. I mean, I get close to 400 miles to a tank.

So here's the game plan.

Oh my gosh.

You're gonna go out, get that tank down. Jessica, this is our podcast now, okay?

I got some raised gas downstairs right now.

I got it in my trunk or my frunk. Frunk.

Oh, you keep raised gas in your car? Right next to the meth tank.

Right next to the three gallon meth tank.

Oh yeah.

With another big jug of methanol.

Totally same.

Literally, dude, my front end's a bomb, bro. Hey, everyone out there. Don't cut me off.

You should get an OSHA approved sticker on the back.

Yeah, no, literally, dude, I'm a bomb. Yeah.

You're the bomb.

Yeah. No, I am the bomb. Oh, yeah. We're gonna get that sticker now to a dub bomb. Oh, my gosh. She ordered a sticker and freaking put spicy beetle on the back.

Oh, yeah, I saw that. That was hilarious.

Thanks to your brother. It's suiting. It's spicy.

What did you say?

Your brother was actually the one that first said that.

And I said, I am ordering that sticker right now.

He didn't believe me.

I did it. It's on there.

So your brother can take claim to spicy beetle.

You should change your handle. Spicy beetle. But then again, if you get rid of the Porsche. No, then what? Well, right now he's the new shop guy. Speaking of beetles, do you guys see that one? It was a John's shop. The silver one? Dude, it only came out to Supercar Saturday today. That literally sounded.

No, dude, he was down at 2K.

Yeah.

That thing is fast.

What was it, what was it making, like six or 800 wheels?

I think it makes eight.

Yes.

It makes over eight. It weighs like 2100 pounds.

Yeah.

Yeah, dude, it's, I want to see that thing go.

And it looks stock.

Like, I never got to see it go.

It looks so hilariously stock, dude.

Yes.

Imagine cutting that off in traffic and then, wow.

And it just bust like thing, you would just buy.

If that is 800 to the wheels and it's 2100 pounds, keep in mind, Adam's Viper is 2000 to the wheels and 4,000 pounds. So power to weight, I mean, obviously, there's so much more that goes into it, of course.

But very similar, essentially. Well, no. Probably similar. Death trap.

It was still like a gap by the Viper, don't get me wrong, but no, that thing is a death trap.

When I first seen that thing at Chazz, when he was building it, I mean, I was like, oh my God, that's, that's, that'd be kind of fun, but also kind of sketchy. I was like, whoa, like literally like no interior.

Yeah, there's like a certain like triangle where it's like, you know, power, reliability, practicality, and they just went like, away, like from everything, they're just like, we don't even know what we are or something.

We're just going to do it where that's usually what I try to go for. I try to go for some practicality sometimes drive it to the track, run it, drive it home. Yeah, like I like vehicles that I can build, drive the track, race it for all day, drive home.

Practical. She was carrying your golf clubs last week in the front seat. The f*** you mean practicality?

Yeah, he kind of steered away from the whole practicality part. What? The Porsche is practical. No, it's not. It fits my gym bag. It fits my product. If I ever need it for promos, I mean, it fits a lot.

And it fits my woman.

And if it's two golf bags in the back seat, two golf bags. You've got to pick a juice. You're not getting all of it at once. No, yeah, you're not getting all of it once.

It's one or the other.

Especially since my frunk now is basically useless because the freaking med tank is massive, so it's like I can't even fit a carry out in there anymore.

Yeah, you put a piece of paper in there.

Yeah, it's worthless. I can put a box.

You just have like a stick of dynamite sitting in the front. Just open your frunk at car shows and it's just going to be a timer.

Hey, there we go. I should find a fun little prop for that. No, it needs a sticker. Oh, we'll put a big old sticker on the hood. Dynamite. Yeah, dynamite. TNT. There we go. Might blow up. Flammable.

I'd love to see what other suggestions people have when they listen to this.

Oh, dude. I mean, another thing too is like, dude, that thing shoots such a ball of flame now, dude.

We still got to shoot that, by the way.

Yeah, like I would love to get some of that on video or some photos of that because I want to figure out if I can just do it on hand because it's much bigger, obviously, with the race gas. And when I do that, like literally was it did such a big one once. I mean, I can see the glistening light of the flame in my peripheral from the window. I was like, I was like, holy s***.

And you hear it right below your face.

Yeah, you hear like actually like when it backfires, like, boom, you're just like, that's a flame. So I got to catch that. We got to catch that on video or camera or something.

Well, we could do it tonight. Just come back at around nine.

Yeah, we're going to be down here around. Yeah, probably. I mean, we're probably going to go check out that MNCC show, maybe. I don't know. And then I'm sure Ike and Katie will want us to swing over to since we're here. So but I don't know.

I think we should wrap up with our usual question. Do you know what our usual question is? Have you listened to the podcast?

I started listening to like the very first one and then I got it.

That's a tough one.

And then I got distracted at work. No, people came in.

It's it's tricky. But the nice thing is you could like throw it up on YouTube now, even if it's just audio. So that's pretty sweet.

I figured out that I can do that. I have the Google Chrome thingy, whatever.

Oh, you have the Google.

Chromecast.

But no, our usual question is, Sean.

So you got to pick three cars. They're going to be one's a daily, one's your track car, one's your show car.

Any budget.

Any budget.

Any budget too.

Yeah.

Yeah, not, not to go wild with it.

So for reference, what was Dave's answer for his track car?

Wasn't it like a Janetta with the V10 or Judd V10 in it? And he has a diesel 3,500 with the trailer so you can tow it to the track. Like he went full blown track car.

I'd probably do a daily driver trackhawk hands down just because like that was a fun daily driver. I don't give a s*** about gas mounts, whatever, track car with no budget. Well I mean, if once it comes out, I would do the new 992 GT2RS. I don't know if you guys have seen like the couple of spy photos of that thing.

That thing looks nasty.

But if we had a video vehicles that are existing now, I would do the 911. I would do the GT2RS as my track toy. And then what's the other one?

Your show car.

Show car.

I started thinking about yours, by the way.

And you got to think about like, what kind of shows are you going to attend like with this car?

We've had some crazy ones. For example, like a Hoonicorn like replica, but not really, you know, like just, you know, just more showy or whatever. What else? We've seen a lot of stuff.

Ferrari LaFerrari, but they would just use it as a garage decoration.

Because they'd be too scared to drive it.

Yeah.

I think it's a show car. I mean, I'm kind of simple, 1965 Pontiac GTO, full Rust-O-Mod with a hell of a motor in it. That would be my show car.

Very cool.

Yeah.

Love that. That's the car that basically kicked off the muscle car era.

Like 1965 Pontiac GTO. So it's got the longer a** and a little bit shorter front.

That's the judge, right?

No, no. 69 and 70 would be the judges.

Okay.

So different body style. So the 65 GTO is like my favorite body style personally. I don't know why I liked a little bit of the longer front. Beautiful car, but I think for a show car, I would do a full resto modded 65 GTO.

Let's see what this looks like. Cause I think I shot a GTO a while back.

Yeah.

I shot a GTO just like that.

Yep. And I'd either throw like, I don't know, like either just like a Hellcat or honestly, I'd probably just keep it keep it original and no. Who are we kidding? Put a 427 in it.

Yeah. And you know, original old cars drive like s***.

Yeah. There's just something about like this look and this style of the GTO. I mean, a nice fat tire on the rear, you know, fact like that, not lowered too much.

You like a fat rear, don't you?

Like restomod, you know, like I would definitely do the black top and I'd probably do, I'd probably want like white or blue, but yeah, that would be my show car. I just, I have a, I'm buying one of those one day. Like that is, I'm going to find one of those and do a full restomod.

And then do a massive meth kit and make that a new bomb.

Yes. No, no. You can best believe this is the last car that I do methanol on.

I'll believe it when I see it.

How is that like having a methanol injected car, you know, cause you have to, what, refill it every time you go to the gas station?

No, just check it. Like if you did a day, like say if you had a day where you did a s*** ton of pulls, definitely check it for the following day if you're going to take it out. But like you say, if it's a day of driving like me, like I topped it off last night, I'll probably go do some pulls and stuff tonight. And honestly, it probably will be maybe a quarter gone tomorrow. So it's not, it's all about your driving and where your like tuner sets it to like start spraying like mine sets where it starts spraying at 12 pounds of boost or more, start spraying it.

That's messed up, man.

But make sure if you do ever do a meth, like say you're gonna do one of your Durango or something like, or the 1M, just make sure you just have a sensor and kit and I'm never gonna put meth in any of my cars like that. I'm surprised. Like I was really hesitant, like say with the Corvette, because I heard a lot of horror stories with meth kits and Corvettes and starting a fire, what not. So like I was, trust me, I was really worried about Dave. Dave reassured me. He goes, we're good, dude.

He goes, I build my cars for reliability. And that's why I don't do E85 in the Durango. It's because, you know, I don't want to have to second guess, like every, every, when I had an E85 in my Jeep, anytime I went to the pump, I had a little E85 tester kit. So I would fill that up. I'd make a mess because, you know, trying to get the E85 into this little tube, it would just spill everywhere.

You can't pee in the pile. I get it.

And then I shake it up, wait, make sure it's good, fill it up.

So I think it's a lot of times, I mean, depending on where your tunes at, like an example is like the last thing before we have to end, but was like when I had like my Evo game and stuff like that, when I was on the Evos and running full 85 and stuff like that, technically the tuner, I mean, usually would max it out like the power setup, whatever setup you're doing. It might be maxed out at a 60. So as long as the content is saying like higher than 60%, your car should run.

Yeah. My car could run to like if it was like, you know, E 75 or, you know, whatever. But it's just like, I really took care of that car because I really didn't want to mess it up and I didn't want to get like a bad batch, you know, because especially here in Minnesota we get winter blend E 85 and that can get as low as E 50.

Well, yeah. That's why I like full flex feel for me.

Yeah. So I like the reliability of just being on normal pump gas and then having raised gas is so I don't even have to like empty the tank or like get it all the way low. Like I can just like add it in and then just it's just a little bit of math and then run the tune.

I really wish I was able to run the flex feel right now, but I can't soon enough.

We'll get you there. Maybe.

Maybe. Yeah, we'll see.

All right. Your turn, Jessica.

Your turn.

Well, I'll see if the mic even fricking works still.

Oh God.

Here, let's get you closer. There you go. Okay.

Speak on daily driver.

DBX 707. Really?

I was going to say Urus, but I feel like the DBX is better.

Can you pull up a DBX 707, Sean?

Lambos really don't do it.

They don't do it for me.

Otherwise a Ferrari FF would be cool, but I like my SUVs.

Oh, yuck.

That's okay.

I will smack you. That's a Ford Escape. No.

The 707s are pretty good, though.

Love that. The Aston Martin styling, the big mouth grill. I love it.

Okay, that one doesn't look too bad.

The one bad thing is that it is way too much at 300k. It performs worse than a Urus.

Money is not an option. The Cayenne Turbo G.

I know, but yeah, obviously.

I do that, too. I forgot about that one.

Wait, what's the OG one look like? So this is the 707. What's the other one?

The 707 has got a bigger grill. The OGs are ugly.

Yeah, that one's even worse because it really misses the market.

It's just like my...

Okay, I agree. Okay, I take back my point earlier. This is the ugly b****. Yes, that's the ugly one. 707, better. Look at that beautiful Ford Escape. All right, so we got the daily. Okay, 707. I can get with you on that. All right.

Track car.

I am kind of with him on the Porsche, but I mean, that's the 06.

I've been in some sketchy turns with him going like 70 miles an hour on a hairpin and that thing just hooked and went and like I didn't feel like I was gonna die.

So yeah, the interiors, but ugly. I'm sorry. That is a terrible interior.

So 06 is your track car.

C7 Z06. You got a good woman here, Chazz. All right. And then show car. Show car.

For f****** sure.

What color? Or wait, I actually know which Porsche. Cause like, just like Jesse's. Just like Jesse's. Ever since he got that thing.

I think.

I think so.

Yeah. That thing.

And what color?

Ooh.

I don't know.

White?

Black?

That's a tough one.

I don't even know. Hold on. My other show car. Miami blue. There we go. Miami blue. My other show car, if I were to do it, would either be a 930 Turbo. 930 Turbo.

Is that the Slantnose?

No. So, a 930 Turbo is the most well renowned, so a 939-11 Turbo. So this would be my other show car. Oh yeah. Would be one of these. Yes. Frickin whale tail and everything, stupid wide hips. I mean, nostalgic as f***, gorgeous looking, like literally frickin just, still looks good 40 years later.

Oh, this is a singer.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it still looks just good 40 years later. Like, look at that frickin, look at that wing. Quintessential Porsche. Just beautiful. That one, there we go. Yeah. That one. That would be a fun a** show car right there. Fully get the, keep the air cool, the original motor and everything. But those are also about $300,000. The slant noses are sick too. Slant noses, I would do, and you can get one of those for a decent price, so I would definitely do it. Did you see that slant nose at TX2K?

Yeah.

Oh my gosh, dude. That was one of the sexiest slant noses. I'm sorry. I got excited for a second.

I was just looking at the f****** microphone levels, because I'm like, oh yeah, he's excited.

Even though I'm not a super fun, loving Porscheette, but some of the older ones, they would be cool.

Why not just go even older? Instead of getting a Z06, horrible idea, but I have a sneeze, uh-oh, uh-oh. Get an older Porscheette that's more raw.

You got it out of time.

It just went away.

Yeah. I mean, like, that would be enough for me. Well, honestly, if my Porsche was a manual, I wouldn't even be, I probably wouldn't be second guessing getting it right now.

I think it's the manual aspect that's killing you, because you're just so, you've always had a manual car.

When it's my fun cars, it's like, I like being really, really engaged. That is sexy.

I got to finish editing that slant nose photo I got from Texas, actually.

And I got to put that up after the show for sure. That was a beautiful car. Beautiful f****** car. But a 930 turbo would be sweet, same with a slant nose like that.

No, let's find a slant nose next.

There we go.

Now I want a slant nose.

I know.

Don't they look sick?

It's just so different from what basically almost every Porsche looks like.

Yeah, but it still has the hips of a 911 and everything. I mean, it's...

You know what sucks is if this podcast ever gets big enough, we can literally influence the market.

No. We need a slant nose.

More slant noses. You never know. You're like, dude, I mean, I hope your podcast takes the f*** off.

The slant nose sucks. Don't buy it.

You know, I'm here to... Let's use a door advantage. Track cocks are terrible. Don't buy them. Please.

Market manipulation at its finest.

The next week, Harris, did you say in the podcast last week that f****** slant noses suck? Nuh-uh. Nuh-uh. Nuh-uh. That's the Leastie episode.

You know what? No, that would be my secondary show car.

I like it.

You got to rotate them out. You can't bring the same thing every time.

Hey, man.

That's true.

We need like 30 of them.

Yeah. So how many cars do you guys have?

Just three. Three?

Yeah.

We trade a lot.

List them out?

We have the TRX, the X4M and then the 911.

But in the past, you've had way more than that.

I think I'm on 46.

46 cars?

Since 18. We always trade.

I really do wonder if there's anybody listening to this, if they've ever had more than 46.

Oh, definitely.

AJ got me beat. That doesn't count.

Yeah. AJ's, yeah, he just picked up a Viper on a whim this week.

Yeah. That doesn't count. He sells. I want to catch AJ.

I should get him on here.

No, dude, I love AJ, dude. You know, I mean, he's always been a super cool dude to me, hands down. Always has been. You know, even if he's a little mad at me, I'm sorry, AJ. I really am. I just don't want to be your friend.

AJ is good s***, dude. He is. He speaks highly of everybody. I think I talked to him, I went out to lunch with him a while back and he probably would be coming on here probably this summer. We'll see what happens.

But he's a busy guy.

Oh, dude.

He's a busy guy.

Yeah. When he shared his schedule on Facebook, I was like, bro.

Yeah, he's a busy dude.

Yeah. But no, we're cooking. The channel's cooking. But we'll see where Minnoxide's at this time next year will be fantastic. I do want to put on more Minnoxide-related events in the future. So we'll see what that looks like. I'm not sure yet.

Get your sponsors up. We'll see if there's anything we can do to help.

Yeah. How did you get that name?

What's that?

Actually, here's something that's f***** up. I actually told this exact story today because it just came up. So Minnoxide was supposed to be a placeholder. So I created this page five years and one month ago on April 28th, okay? And I was just coming up with names. I was trying to come up with something like Catchy or whatever, like a one word, two word, whatever. I didn't want to do like Minnesota Mopar or whatever. Actually, no, I think I did try Minnesota Mopar or something or whatever because I wanted to basically do like...

You were big into Mopar at the time.

Yes, but actually, no, no, I f***** up the story because that was actually the second page that I made after that that basically died. But basically, I wanted to go to shows, take phone pictures and just share them and then get a big enough following because Instagram loved photos at the time. There was this page, there was a Mopar page where basically he was going to dodge events for free. He had like 80,000, 100,000 followers and he was also based out of Minnesota here. So I wanted to do that, just get free tickets to shows and stuff. And then eventually, so we had this Nikon point and shoot lying around and my dad's like, why don't you take this camera and take it to shows or whatever. So I took it to a Cars and Coffee at when I was at Canterbury and it was like a Ford GT there. I can't remember which one it was. But I started taking photos with that camera and eventually I started taking photos of people's cars, tagging them, trying to find out who the owners are or whatever, like, you know, as I posted on social media. And one time, let's see, it was Cars and Caves Chan House. You can tell I'm tired by the way with how many uhs I'm saying. I'm so sorry to the listeners. But it was after Cars and Caves on April 28th where I basically made Minnoxide. I think it was like a week or two after I went to Mopars in the park and this guy named Brian, he had a yellow demon. He's like, hey, you're Minnoxide, right? And I'm like, I guess I am, you know, so the name just kind of stuck ever since then. But then I started, you know, charging for photo shoots or whatever because I started scheduling free ones and you know, one guy gave me a 30, $40 tip and then ever since that was on my fourth free photo shoot and then ever since, I just kind of became a photographer. But yeah, that's how Minnoxide basically started, it was just supposed to be a fricking placeholder. I was just thinking of ways to include Minnesota in the name and make it car related.

Well, dude, that's fricking sweet, I like it. It is a catchy name at the end of the day.

I love this logo too. So this logo was created by Trevor who was on episode three or four, Shred Design. So he wanted to make it automotive related. So some of the things that he sent over was like old, like oil cans, like from the 70s, 80s. Yeah, like pens, stuff like that. So he kind of based it off of that, like something that would be wrapped around the can. I've wanted to change it so many times, but I just can't because I just like it so much.

Yeah, that's cool. I like it. It's popping. So I definitely run with it.

Yeah. And then, you know, I still keep the yellow or whatever, because that's like the colors that he initially gave me. Like this is the overall that he gave me. So I'm sticking with it. But the nice thing is I could change it to anything whenever. So yeah, just turned a little bit into me. But nonetheless, I'm really happy you guys came on for the duo podcast. These are just going to keep getting better and better. We'd love to have you on. And, you know, I know you and I used to rock that podcast for Whiplash, but, you know, when I basically realigned my priorities, it's just, it's such a long drive to go all the way up to Nutrishop.

Yeah.

And just us scheduling was just a pain in the butt, but Sean is five minutes away from me.

Yeah. You've been replaced. With someone younger and less strong than you.

Younger and less strong.

Yeah.

Strength doesn't give me that bar.

I love me a pretty b****. No. But no, those were some great times. Like Marina actually hit me up the other day. She's like, did you delete our episode? I'm like, no, this is all a new podcast. So that was just kind of funny because I'm just like, yeah, this is all totally new. Our whiplash ones are still up. I never cared to delete them. But nonetheless, thank you for coming on. We'll have you guys in the future. You guys better go to that car show next week at Pistons and Protein. And Nutrishop. And Nutrishop Maple Grove. And yeah, we look forward to have you guys come on as sponsors. So anything else, Sean?

Yeah, go eat a cheeseburger.

I want to go get a cheeseburger for show. Cheat day. We do?

They're not going to get that.

It's okay. We get it.

Yeah, we get it. We'll explain. Anyways, see you later, guys.