41. Drifting an LS7 Swapped 350z, Winning Car Giveaways, and a Diverse Collection w/ Jacob Jorgenson

Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Minnoxide Podcast for Episode 41. I'm your host, Harris, AKA Minnoxide, man of many automotive aspirations, and I'm here with my angry co-host today.

Hey, I'm the normal amount of angry, as usual, at this d******, so it's pretty normal over here. My name is Sean Bryant. I am your average car enthusiast, maybe a little bit above average, and this is the Minnoxide Podcast. Oh, you know what? I totally forgot to mention, I own cars.

I own cars, too.

Yeah, no, you own a car, a Golf, but I drive a Hellcat Durango and a BMW 1M. If you see me around, say hey. I love talking about my cars, so I'm super energetic about it, but this is the Minnoxide Podcast, where we take you beyond the meat and introduce you to some of the people that make our community so great.

You know, cars is the only thing you're above average in. Wink? No, I'm f****** around. All right, today we have our guest, Jacob Jorgenson, which you go back with Sean here. He told me a little bit about you drifting and just having a nice collection of cars, so we just kind of want to talk a little bit about that. You brought a kick-a** 350z over here, so let's just kind of kick it off with that car, because that thing's freaking sweet. So tell us about the car.

Well, that's a 06 350z, and I bought it just to buy it. It was a good deal. I was like, oh, you can't go wrong with the 350z. So I bought it, took it up to Brainerd, raced it around a bunch, and all of a sudden, I let my buddy drive it once, and he rolled it down the road course. And absolutely, like, it was crazy. It was the funnest car ever, then I let him drive it, and all of a sudden, bang. I'm in the passenger seat of the car, and he's doing laps, and I look over, and we're doing 70. I see it on the dash. And all of a sudden, I look over, there's a pothole, and he's sliding ever so towards it. And all of a sudden, we hit it. We fly, like, 100 and some feet through there. We land in a 100% stock car. I thought we were gonna be flat as a pancake. Then we landed on the upside down, and then landed on, like, the hatch, upside down, like, the hatch, like that. And then it hit the ground and landed. And then we were fine, and we literally landed. Boom, boom, landed, awesome. And then he grabbed second gear, and all you hear is a drive shaft. Boom, boom, hitting the ground. I'm like, we're done. Like, it was so great. And then after that, I stripped the entire car. Me and my buddy, Al, stripped the entire car. And then after that, we just went crazy. And then at that time, I was building a red truck, which is just a 5.3, and then I was like, I need to go bigger. And they were like, what should we do? They were like, should I go supercharger? Should I go turbo? And they're like, why don't you drop a whole new motor in it? So then I was like, okay. So I spent the money, built the motor. And at that time, I got a phone call the day after I rolled that Z, saying, hey, your motor's done. And I'm like, I know exactly where this motor's going. So I put it in my Z. It was just a full blown LS7 with LS3 ported heads so you get more torque on top. And it is an absolute monster of a car. I love it. It's pushing 550 wheel now, and it's just absolutely a tank on the track.

That thing is crazy, dude. And you have a completely gutted, I mean, have you weighed it at all yet?

No.

You're missing a lot of parts on there too. So it's like, it probably weighs less, but I guess the cage probably adds a good bit of weight too though, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, well, what kind of cage is in there?

It's a cage built by PMF, patients metal fab.

Yeah.

Just a full FD spec cage.

Okay. Yeah, and then you were recently up in North Dakota, the same event that Trey was at. That was episode, what, 37?

37.

Yeah, 37. So how'd you do at that event?

We did really good during the practice days. I go up there Friday morning. I just run some practice laps. I loved the layout they put out. And I was just, up there, I'm known just as the smoke machine because I just put up a wall cloud. And I feel bad for whoever drives behind me because you just can't see anything. So yeah, the first couple of days, the first day was great. I absolutely killed all the laps, everything. And then did some tandem runs, did really good with that. And then competition day came, did really good. And then top 32 came. And then I won my battle because the guy got lost in the smoke and couldn't see. He literally came around the corner and you had to initiate at a wall. So it was kind of like a chicane. So you had to come around the corner and then you had to do an S. And then there was a big wall here. And you had to manji into the wall. Well, he didn't want to manji into the wall and do a full smoke cloud. So he straightened and I got the win there.

What's manji?

Manji is like when you're going sideways.

Oh, okay.

You know, just go on side to side. Just around the big S curve. But we did that. We took the dub there. And then top 16 came around and I went up against a guy, a 10-year veteran in his car. And he smoked me just on proximity. He was closer. Me, I'm still learning on how to get close to people because a lot of people don't like to drive with me because of the smoke cloud. Right. So it's hard to drive with people. It's hard to get close to people when you don't drive with many people. So I struggled on proximity and it was okay. But I took the L there, but no big deal.

So top 16? Yeah. All right, that's not bad. How do you get over that hurdle of seeing through the smoke? Because obviously, all the professionals, they have to follow behind all these smoky-a** tires.

Yeah, it comes down to user error. Because if you're following cars, say you're right here, then you're right here, and you're doing the mongees, not the mongees, the tandems. You want to be right by the guy's driver door. There's a pocket that is no smoke, and you can see everything. But then when you go to initiate like this and you got to cross over, you got to go through the smoke cloud, but then you're right back into it. But if you fall behind a little bit, you're stuck in that trail. Yeah. And you can't do anything about it. So if you fall on your face, you do something wrong, you can't keep up, it's kind of a dead run.

So proximity is really important.

Especially with a guy like me, you'll never keep up in that smoke cloud.

Yeah, and also you make-

But if you cut line and you can keep up to me, you're just fine.

Yeah, also you make a lot of power, probably a lot more than some of the cars at that event. So is it harder for them to keep up with you? Or do you have to bring yourself back for them?

So in a competition, I just go wide open everywhere. I use my left foot brake. But if, say, we're going to bring it here pretty soon for Drifttoberfest, I'll lead a pack of just stock 350zs, and I'll go super wide and just hold left foot brake, and it'll slow me down, and then the wide angle makes it so that they can cut line and it can suck right up to me. And yeah, I've had stock 350zs ride my door, but it all depends on how you drive. Yeah.

That's so fricking gnarly, dude. So people could probably just get lost in the smoke super easy then.

Super easy.

Dude, I can't, so what kind of tires are you running on there right now?

I'm running Kenda's.

Are those a pretty smoky tire?

Yeah, they're pretty smoky. This is a tire that I've went through a bunch of them, but some tires don't last. Right. And it depends on where we're driving. Brainerd's asphalt, and if it's hot outside, asphalt eats tires. Pargo is nice because it's concrete. Concrete is actually really nice on tires. But if you go to the road course at Brainerd, I get two laps and I'm completely bald. A brand new tire, completely bald.

I think we've talked to a few people and they've agreed, you know, they get about two laps in and then their tires are done for versus other people, you know, when they went to North Dakota, I think they got through the whole day on one set of tires or two, but way less than if they were at Brainerd. So, and we'll have to compile what everybody's running for tires. I feel like, did you say Ken does? I feel like everybody, that's like a very popular tire. Or is it?

I like Ken does. Ken does are really nice and they're easy to get. Some tires are easy to get, but they're crap.

Right. Everyone has an opinion. So I posted that one of a highlight of like Traves, like what he does for his PSI and all that stuff or whatever. Everyone's got a f****** opinion. It is insane. Like this guy's like, oh, how are you doing that? Or you shouldn't be doing that much. It's like, it's just ridiculous. So what kind of PSI are you running in your tires?

So my front tires, I usually run at 22 PSI, just to keep them, you know.

Grippy.

Grippy. And then rears is 20, cause I don't like going below 20, just cause in case of like a DB or anything, cause I like dropping off the course sometimes, and if you DB'd, it kind of ends the run right there.

That's a lot less than Trey, cause Trey said he runs anywhere from 45 to 55.

Depends on the car.

And the power.

If I was running my stock 350z, I'd run 60 PSI, and it was like you're rolling on ice skates.

Yeah, that makes sense.

You know? And then yeah, when my car was stock, I would go to Brainerd with three sets of tires. That would last me all weekend. I go through three sets of tires in probably 20 minutes. It was my car now. I go up to Brainerd to like one of our fun events. One of the last events was the DM Bash, and I crashed up there the first day, but we got it back together. And after that, I only had one day, I went through 12 sets of tires in one day. And I wasn't even going hard. I was just going out, do my runs, come back, eat lunch, go back out, do my runs. If I was going hard, I would go through all 30 in my trailer.

How do you get all those tires? How do you like-

I gotta buy them in a big package.

You gotta buy them in a big package?

You get a wholesale discount?

Yeah, you kinda do.

You gotta trailer all them with you too, right? How do you install them? Is there somebody at the track?

Most tracks have a tire machine, or somebody will bring a tire machine, it'll be like, oh, 10 bucks a tire, 20 bucks a set, stuff like that. So that's nice, cause then I can just burn through all my, I think I have 14 sets always mounted. So if I burn through my 14 sets, I usually go through about eight, and then I start swapping. So then I have a good, six left, and then I can go back out there.

This sounds a lot more expensive than golf. Have you thought about golfing?

I've never tried.

Yeah, I try to once, I'm getting rid of my clubs.

So it's just, it's not something for me.

I think I went golfing once with my dad, and I brought a baseball bat, cause the ball went farther that way.

I can just imagine, you just, was it like, what kind of bat was it?

I was just divoting the ground, bang, bang, bang. Took the baseball bat up through the golf ball in there and whacked it, and the thing was just gone.

Oh my gosh, you can only golf, but you can't use any clubs. You have a billiards cue for on the green, and then you got a bat for hitting long distance.

I would be good at that game, not golf.

Tiger Ruth, I like it. Yeah, it works out great. So how long ago did you get into drifting then?

About 2017 is when I got into drifting.

Okay, what made you want to get into it?

So a big drifter around here, his name's Austin Mata, and I saw a couple of his videos of them driving. I was like, that looks really fun. I've always been in the cars, like, that looks really fun. So I messaged him, I'm said, hey, how do you get into drifting? He's like, just buy a car. I'm like, okay.

Easy enough.

I was like, okay, cool, what kind of car? You sent me all these cars. And I'm like, you know what? Like, these cars look cool. Like, I want to look cool while driving, he's like, okay. I got a 91 Skyline GTST you can have. And I was like, okay, how much you want for it? He's like, 10 grand. I'm like, all right, cool. Never drove, I've never driven manual day in my life. He shows up with this car and I'm like, okay, cool. And he gets out of the wrong side of the car. Then I'm like, what is that? And he's like, it's right hand drive. I'm like, oh, that's cool. All right, leave it in the driveway. Like, okay, cool, have fun, buddy, whatever, right? I gave him the money, gave me the car, made sure he left. And then I was like, ah, we're hopping in the car. I go to the right side of the car, I'm like, damn it, wrong side, go to the other side. I get in, I'm like, okay, cool. And then I'm like, oh man, it's over here. So I learned how to drive manual and right hand drive car.

Oh my God.

So I just showed, and then I bought that car, and then Austin had an event. And then I brought it up there and I'm like, got any pointers? And he's like, yeah, go out there and clutch kick it. And just hold it wide. If I go out there, clutch kick it, spin out, whatever. He's like, yeah, just try your best. Just hold it wide. Little RB20 that could, you know, you just gotta beat the piss out of it to get it to go anywhere. So yeah, I did that. And I spun out a bunch, spun out a bunch, the whole week went by. And then my buddy Chance, he's also a big drifter around here. He hopped in the car and he started giving me some pointers. And then I almost completed the whole track with him in the car. And he's like, yeah, you're doing good. Just do this, you know, countersuit here. Then when you're driving, you know, I was driving with my hand on my steering wheel. Like I would never let go. He's like, let go of the steering wheel. The car will literally correct itself. So when you go into the corner, let off. The car literally steers for you. So I would do that. And then, you know, you just kinda use your hand as a brake. And then, yeah, I connected the whole course. And I was like, yeah, this is awesome. Like best thing ever.

Oh, yeah. I can imagine that feeling of falling flat. And then at the very end, you finally being able to complete it.

So then, yeah, I did that. And then I took that car to a bunch of events. I think I went to Omaha, Nebraska. They had a track down there. I did that track, spun out a bunch. But then, you know, I figured out how to do everything. But at that time, I didn't even have an e-brake. I was just clutch kicking in the corners. And then I got an e-brake and then I never used it because I didn't know how to use it. So then, I think the summer, the winter of 2018, I bought a simulator. And I put an e-brake in the simulator and I learned how to use the e-brake on the simulator. And then I went to the track that next year and I learned how to use the e-brake through the simulator.

Nice, yeah. That's how Trey learned, I think, how to drift.

Yeah, when he was like 12 or whatever, he just spent like a whole year. Like he just sucked at it and eventually put it together. Dude, I love watching like T-Pain's videos of like him on the simulator. Have you ever watched any of those?

I have not.

Yeah, T-Pain's apparently a really good drifter. He's in the pro circuit.

Pickle Rick?

I've seen his car, his car's dope.

Dude, did you ever hear a story about that car, like Pickle Rick, like the hell he went through with that car?

Dude, I heard it was a pain in the a**.

It was like an 11 episode series of him b******* out the shop. Because like he just finally snapped. It's like, you know, it's like, they just kept putting it back and they couldn't give him a date. And he had all these sponsors riding on him and all this stuff. And it's like, just give me a date, dude. Like, let me know what to work with it. If you haven't watched that series, it's the best thing.

I'm gonna have to.

You have to. So before you got into drifting, were you into like any other type of like motorsport?

So I really didn't do anything. When growing up, I had a four wheeler. And then I would always just go to my dad's. I think they had 120 acres up north. And I would just ride around in my four wheeler. That's all I ever did. So like, that's how I used to not my, it was a Raptor 350 with a clutch. So I used that knowledge instead of using my hand to my foot to drive manual. So I used my dirt bike and four wheeler knowledge to learn how to drive manual. So other than that, I would just ride my four wheeler. And that was it. But I've always been in the cars. When I turned 18, I bought this supercharged truck that was just awesome to me. What kind of truck? It's called a Chevy Reaper. They only produce 500 of them.

What?

Yeah.

I've never even heard of that.

Yeah, it was kind of like a collab. It took a 2015 Chevy, and then they sent it to Lingenfelter, and Lingenfelter put a supercharger on it, put some other parts and all that stuff, and then Southern Comfort would take it after that, and they put a widebody on it, and some Fox suspension, and a big, huge bumper.

Was it like a Baja truck?

Yeah, it was kind of like a doing truck. Oh, nice. But it was more like passenger watch.

Yeah, more for the road.

Yeah, it was a road-worthy trophy truck with this Fox suspension. So then, yeah, I got that, and then I, it's the number on it, it's 199. That's 199 out of 500. And I was just like, that was my truck. I loved it, and I loved the horsepower. And like back in 2015, 600 horsepower was a lot. Yeah. Like that was like, whoa.

Dude, the horsepower has exploded recently. Like I just, yeah.

Oh, it's, stuff's coming with 800 horsepower.

I know, M5s with 600, that was like big back in like 2015. Like that's when they like re-updated the whole generation, and it was like all-wheel drive too. Like it was like the best daily you could buy, I think, at that time.

I've ranted about this a bunch too. Cause like a lot of people are like, oh, these EVs are coming or whatever. But I keep telling people like, we're in the golden era of cars right now. Yeah. Everything's fast as hell. Everything's comfortable. Like, yes, they're bigger cars. They're way bigger cars. Like that Mark III Supra that was here, like that was a tiny little car, especially compared to the new Mark V. Like I think it's a little box. Yeah, it's ridiculous. But like right now, like you can get insane performance out of cars. It's just, it makes no sense to me, but like we're in the golden era.

Especially with the adoption of hybrid technology, where you're seeing not all like-

Those cars aren't real.

Like the, what is it called? The Romera, what is that?

Oh, the Gamera? Oh, dude, that's a whole different level, too. It's like even the hypercar people are adopting it. 2300 horsepower, dude? Like, dude, and that's different, like than the Viper I rode, which is 2000 horsepower or whatever. But this is like, has that instant EV torque. And it's just gone.

Yeah, it makes your 600 horsepower truck seem like a little baby.

I'm so spoiled with fast cars, dude. Like, what was I in the other day? Like I actually got to enjoy your 1M, because it's 1M's manual. I was like, oh man, this is really fun. Like it's, you know, I shouldn't say this, but only 450 wheel. And I'm just like, man, this thing is like dangerously fast because like I was so engaged with it. I feel like that's one of the things with auto.

It's a whole different feeling.

And it's a manual. That's what makes it even more fun.

Yeah.

Like automatics are cool. You stomp on it, you go. But when you got like a manual car with a decent amount of horsepower, it is a blast.

Oh yeah.

It is a blast.

BMW, the CEO of the M division, I think he just said like he, like basically the only reason why they put M or manual transmissions in M cars is because of Heritage. From their standpoint, they don't really want to do it, but because, you know, their, you know, Heritage is racing and it's always been manual.

It makes no financial sense to them to do it.

So like.

And they pride themselves on fast cars and a manual transmission slows them down.

Exactly. When people are looking for the best, you know, they want to give you the best, which is the automatic now. But for like you said, like the manual just feels so much more like engaging. Like you actually feel like you're driving.

I loved it. I can't wait to drive that car to Chicago. So this.

We need to get you more seat time though. Cause he, oh my God, I got a video of him.

It was our first time.

I'm like, Oh my God, what's going on? I've never felt this car do this before.

Yeah. I'm trying to break your car in. So I did two big mistakes.

Oh my God.

I wanted to go do a pull over here on 169, like the bridge. And I downshift it and I'm, I wanted to downshift into fourth and then into third. I missed fourth and I revved it to 7,000.

Yeah.

Tire chirp, everything.

Red line.

He must have hit third or second.

Yeah. So he almost money shifted it. Yeah. I don't know if there's a safety feature to keep that from happening, but it did not work.

Safety feature, just don't give me the keys. The second f*** up, this is the one that he is the most pissed about, I think, is when I came into his neighborhood, I came in hot and I think I downshifted into first and I'm still doing like 20 miles an hour, which then he reminded me, he's like, when have you ever been in first in your car? I'm like, good point, Sean, good point. So I'm like, all right, second, got it. And then, oh, I got stuck here at the bottom of your driveway too.

Oh yeah.

And then he's like, okay, well, now you need to go first. You're going like three miles an hour. I'm like, Sean, we need some consistency in this education.

That's what I mean. Like we need to get you more seat time.

Yeah.

Drive around the city.

Exactly, cause like, you know, like, cause he taught me how to drive manual. I did just fine. But again, like when you go a year, I think two years almost without driving.

Has it really been that long?

I think so, dude. I can't even remember what the last car was. That was manual.

Since we drove to...

I want to say since we went to tail.

Tail.

Oh, holy s***, and that's when his clutch was cooked.

Yeah, so it wasn't even like you were driving it.

Have you ever told him the story about how we left the car in Bloomington?

No.

You want to?

Yeah, we can talk about it.

We, it's your story, it's your car.

Yeah, so I just got the car back from a MOLA. It just got some new parts put into it. They tuned it, and I was like, we're about to leave for this trip to go to Tail of the Dragon. And I'm like, the day before, they finally go, hey, your car's ready, but your clutch is going out. And I'm like, oh, okay, so I could probably make the drive down to Tail and get it replaced when I come back. I didn't even, I made it eight hours into the trip. I was in Illinois, and you could just feel like, it felt like you were on ice. It was not gripping, it was just dancing. So it was not good. So I'm like, well, we gotta park it. I can't take this any further. So we're driving, cruising down the highway. I think we all had custom vinyl prints on our cars. What did mine say? Student driver?

Yeah, we had a big yellow student driver. I mean, it covered the whole bumper, student driver. Oh my.

Yeah, and so people were passing by us. I'm doing probably five below the speed limit, and people were, you could see them, they're looking down at us, taking pictures of us, pointing at us, laughing.

And he's on the phone just panicking. Who were you talking to? I think BMW? Or who were you talking to about your culture?

I was calling up a bunch of shops or businesses. Hey, I need to park my BMW in your lot for the weekend.

Nobody would let you.

Nobody.

So we decided on a hospital.

Yeah.

So we're just like, because we went through, I think it was Jeff who suggested it, I think.

Well, they were way ahead of us, so they had to stop and wait for us. Took us about 20, 30 minutes to catch up.

Yep, so he's like, you could leave it in a hospital or whatever, because they're not going to tow you at a hospital, because a lot of people probably die.

This is my reasoning, yeah. You show up to the hospital, because you imagine you're getting emergency services done, and you come out, your car is towed, because you parked in the wrong spot.

The doctor's spot.

Yeah.

So yeah, he went back there a few days later. We ended up riding shotgun with some people, and he came back with his dad, I think it was. You guys went to go pick it up with the tow truck. So yeah, that's that fun BMW story. By the way, if you can't tell, my Jocko kicked in. I'm high as a kite right now. I am coked out. But so let's see, where do we want? So yeah, you have quite a number of cars then. So then you had that truck then. Do you still have it?

Oh yeah, I have everything.

Have you sold any cars?

I sold that Camaro.

Oh, was that the Fireball one?

That was the only car I ever sold, because I got embarrassed in it.

When did you sell it?

So I got rid of it. I sold it in 2019, I think.

The Fireball Camaro? Does that make like 700?

Made 700.

Yeah.

This is a pro-charged Camaro, 16.

Yeah, I have a friend that has one. He took his up to, I think it's 1100 wheel now.

I think it's crazy.

Yeah, I think he told me there was a second Fireball around here. Dante?

Dante, yeah.

You met him?

So I found him on Instagram, because I saw him at, I think it was Canterbury. I saw the other one, and his profile had said, only Fireball in Minnesota.

Yeah, yeah.

And I said, when did you buy yours? He's like, something in 2018. I was like, I bought mine in 2017, so I was first. And then the next day, I seen it was gone. I was like, oh, he's not alone anymore, but he is alone now. That car is gone.

Yeah, he's legit. That guy knows how to have fun. He's got some fun stuff in the works. I can't say it, I'm not allowed to. I told him I'd keep a secret, but he's got some rowdy s*** coming. So you had that Camaro then.

So yeah, that Camaro, I got embarrassed by a Subaru.

A Subaru?

That's what I mean.

What?

So we were out riding. My buddy had an Evo, and then there was a couple other Evos. Al had his S6. It was slower than anything, but his S6 had that V10 Gallerado motor.

Yeah, yep.

So we were all ripping around, and then there was a Subi in the pack with us, and I was like, whatever. And then we were kind of racing, and yeah, the Evo is gonna kill me, no problem. And then the Subi came up like, I got the Subi. And I just dusted Alfonso and his S6. I was like, I got the Subi. I'm not the slowest. So then the Subi lined up next to me, and then he literally just took off, and I was just sitting there like, what the hell just happened? And I went up and asked him, I'm like, how much horsepower do you have? He's like, 420. I'm like, I just got dusted by a 400 horsepower Subaru? He's like, yeah. I was like, your car is just isn't all wheel drive. I was like, okay. And then yeah, I literally sold the car after that. And I literally picked up an Evo. And my Evo is like literally the craziest thing I've ever driven in my life.

Which Evo do you have?

I have an Evo 8.

8? God, I love those fricking eights, man. It's my favorite Evo.

And that's 710 all wheel horsepower now with a dog box and dry sump and all that stuff, like straight race car. And that thing absolutely smokes everything. And the newest thing I picked up was a 2016 Liberty Walk GTR.

Oh, is that yours? The red one?

The white one.

Oh, you have a white one. Okay, sweet.

The red one only makes 900 hours. Mine makes around a thousand, thousand, a hundred.

I don't know if I've seen yours around. I know there's another guy around here.

It's been in the shop, I think.

I only had it for like a week and a half, and the turbo seal started drying up. And then it just, the past owner let it sit too long. Oh, okay. And it had its yearly maintenance and all that stuff. But when you let a car sit, everything goes bad. So this oil seal started drying up, and then one of the valves started leaking in the head, so the oil would drip past. I was adding a quart of oil every like four or five drives. Like it was getting bad. So yeah, I sent it in to get more horsepower, bigger turbos, and new tires. Because every time I drove it, it was just burnouts. Rolling burnouts. Bursts through forest.

Who'd you send it to?

It's at Fullblown.

Fullblown, that seems to be like-

They built the car from the ground up, so I was like, it makes sense to send it back to them.

Right. Which, what year is the GTR?

2016.

2016, okay.

I had a 2010 GTR that I bought, just because I wanted a cruiser. Like, I just wanted a nice all-wheel drive cruiser. I was gonna drive it in the winter, and that's why I bought an older one. And that one ended up having transmission problems. I didn't know that 2009 and 2010 had bad solenoids, and I bought a 10, and then the solenoid problem hit. So I'm guessing the guy that sold that car to the dealership, because I bought it from the dealer, I'm guessing the guy that sold it cleared the codes, did all the maintenance work on it. He knew. It'll dry for three to five hours before a code sets. So then I bought it, and then I had it for two days, and then a code came on, a transmission code, and then whatever, it sat for a while, and then we went in, I resurfaced all the solenoids and all the transmission and everything in it, and then it drove for the f*** in three to five hours, and then all of a sudden, bang, it hit again. Then I was like, maybe it's just because of the way I'm driving it. So then I let my lady drive it after I cleared all the codes, and it even happened to her. She just, we raced, my BMW versus my GTR, and I was going 140, and then I called her, I said, what'd you make it up to? She's like, 105? Oh, she was too scared to go faster than that. I was like, I was trying to see which car was faster. She's like, I was just too scared. I didn't want to go any faster. I'm like, okay, whatever. That's the reason you're driving my car. She babied it. She loved the car, but then I started messing up on her. I'm like, the way to fix it is to get a new transmission. It's 14 grand.

What?

Yeah, they're expensive on those things.

14 grand for a new transmission?

For a Nissan?

Well, it's also a super car killer. So it's like, yeah, I looked into it. When I was interested in GTRs, I was looking into it. I'm like, oh, that's how much a motor is and all this. I'm like, yeah, I'm too broke to afford that car because you got to be ready to fix everything. And yeah, those motors are legit. The maintenance, so yeah, it's like you can get one for super cheap, like a GTR, I shouldn't say super cheap, but like, you know.

What are they, I mean, like, you can realistically get one from about 65 to 80.

That's not cheap. Especially if it has a super car for $14,000.

Find another super car for less than that.

You could find an Aston Martin.

You could find an old Ford Colorado for 94 grand.

Right. But like at the point I'm trying to make is like, you get the supercar performance, but you also get the supercar maintenance.

Yeah, so it's like supercar prices.

Yeah, the tax. But I thought that was the whole point of like the Nissan GT-R was, you know, because it's made by Nissan, it's reliable, and it had all the power potential.

Well, you got to think, the last GT-R they made was 2002. That was the R34. Stupid to think. From 2002 to 2009, they reimagined the GT-R.

They had a lot of time for R&D.

Yeah, so yeah.

Well, it is. You could thrash on those cars. But again, it comes down to, like Moe brought it up, it's like the 09s and the 10s, they have issues with the trans. And that's any first and second year car. Doesn't matter if it's a GT-R or a Lambo. Who cares? The first and second year, you never buy the first and second year.

The first generations are always the worst.

Yep, wow, man. And the Supras had a lot of problems, too, as well. Even though the 2020, you could tune in and all that. But then the 21, I think that's the one that burns a s*** ton of oil. It's like, let them figure out the first few years. You don't want to be the test dummy on some cars.

Yeah, that's why I always wait. Like, if there's a new car that comes out, I'm like, oh, that's sick. I'm going to wait a while before I pick one up. Or if I really want it, I'm going to wait and figure out, like, is this an actual good car or will all the oil dump out of it after a year?

Yep, unless it's like a proven motor. Like, for example, like the new M2s are fricking phenomenal. But we've seen the S58 and other cars. So it makes sense. Have you seen what those things make power wise? With just a downpipe and a tune, you're at 700 wheel.

That's crazy.

Yeah. For a car that MSRP is for like 65, 70K.

And what do you actually buy it for?

Probably like 90, 80.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, I'll have a 2015 M4.

I love that. It's got the Yas Marina blue two door. Is it manual? No, automatically.

He didn't buy a manual because he wanted to be faster.

Had to be faster than you, yeah?

Yeah, he did. It was faster for a while. And until I brought the Evo out, and then he didn't stand a chance. But yeah, he did stage three dyno and everything.

Oh wow, okay.

Yeah, it's all dyno and everything, because he was all about his warranty. So, he did all dyno and it all kept his warranty, everything. It came out to be like 639 horsepower.

Yeah, that's about right.

And I was all held factory warranty and everything.

Huh. I did not know you could keep the factory warranty with that dyno. That's freaking sick.

Yeah, because dyno works with BMW or M2V.

They have a partnership. If you go to a cert-specified dealer anointed by BMW, and you can put the performance BMW partnership parts on, which is through dyno, and then you can retain the warranty.

Interesting. Yeah, it's so weird how there's certain companies and stuff you could do that with.

Yeah, it's like a Brabus with Mercedes. They're their own company, but you can send it to them, and they'll do the qualified Mercedes work. You could take it later to a Benz dealership, and they'll still do warranty work.

Yeah, Porsche has some sort of similar program, too, I heard. I can't remember with who or what, but...

Full blown, where it has my GTR, they're certified through Nissan to do Nissan GTRs.

Oh.

That's freaking nuts, dude. So is the Evo your fastest car, then?

I haven't raced the GTR and the Evo. The Evo is currently taken apart.

Okay.

But I think they would be a hell of a race.

Who's working on your Evo?

It's at Ells Drift Shop right now. Okay. I had the motors fully built at RS Motors, and it was amazing. I loved it. The motor came out on the dyno, it was like 809 horsepower, with all the hot parts and everything. So then I bought the motor after my other one exploded. Fully built, stroker 2.2. And that made, I had them just dynoed in at 400 horsepower, and it was amazing. And then I brought it up to 500, 600. And then when I was sleeping, he was messaging me like, I'm going to dyno your car. He's like, and then he's like, okay, it's at 500. And he's like, all right, 550. All right, 600. All right, dude, wake up. We're at 700. All right, 710. Like, dude, wake up. And then I was like, oh, yeah, that's fine. Leave it there. At least 700. Yeah, cool. And then he's like, yeah, I left it. It was at 710. And then I ended up like... I'd always loved going on 35 or 494 and finding somebody. Somebody would always want to race the s*** box EVO that I have. I would always go on 35. Then I ended up blowing the oil pump out on 35. I just limped it home. And luckily, it didn't ruin the motor. But there's a little bit of sparkly stuff in the oil. So we just took the entire motor down and we're going through the whole thing. New bearings, new everything, new pistons, just to make sure it's fine.

Oh, so this happened recently?

Yeah. This happened like two years ago. It's just been on the back burner.

Yeah, because you have no shortage of things to play around with.

I have so many things going on right now. I think I have 22 cars in my inventory.

22 cars. Where do you keep all of them?

They're everywhere.

Everywhere?

I got a big storage unit over there in Dakota, and then I have a couple at my house. A lot of them are at the El's Drift Shop.

He's kind of like Eric. He's like, I just store them at the shops while they're getting worked on.

Yeah, they're everywhere. A couple are at my mom's house.

He always tries to buy a car. He's like, I have nowhere to store it. I'm like, all right, I got to send another car to the shop to get worked on. Just keep a cycle going.

Yeah, it's a revolving door of cars.

I usually go and pick one up, then I bring one there. I drop one off and pick the other one up.

For some reason, I want to ask you, what's your oldest car?

1965 Lincoln Continental.

Whoa, baller.

It's at my house right now.

What color?

Black, black on black.

Perfect. That's exactly what you need for a Lincoln Continental, man.

It's on bags, so it sits really low.

Dude, that's freaking sick. It breaks my heart that Lincoln is what it is today.

What are you talking about? I love Lincoln.

No, no, no. Listen, your Navigator's cool, but it doesn't have the soul of a Lincoln like the old cars do. It just don't.

Have you seen the ones with the... They have ones with suicide doors. They have the newer Lincolns with suicide doors. They're baller.

That's why I've always loved Rolls Royce, because of the suicide doors. They still keep it. That just makes the car. But yeah, this one's got the suicide doors. It's super long. I only had the car for 30 minutes and the motor blew up on me. It's just old school.

You're cursed.

I buy a car and it just blows up. Every single time. Probably 15 out of the 22 cars have done that.

Every time you buy a car, you have to factor in how much is it going to cost to replace the engine on this.

Yeah, so I had a 5.3 sitting at the shop as a backup motor, and I just throw in that in the Lincoln right now. But I wanted to drive it before 2030.

Dude, imagine a Turamax in there.

Oh, it would be awesome. Roll on coal on the straight gangster mobile. Roll on coal. Hell yeah.

That'd be so sick.

I remember Woodstack.

Because I dig in the truck still. I love my diesels. I love my cars. I'm like, we're ever going to put a diesel in my car.

Do you have any fun-built diesels at all?

I have a brand-new pretty much 2018 truck that I bought in 18. And then I had them delete it, and then they deleted it. And then now I'm putting a big, huge, like big compound system turbo on it. And it's going to probably come out with 1100 wheel.

Geez.

Yeah, that's something that we got to get on the podcast.

Yeah, we need some more diesel freaks.

We haven't had a single diesel build, I don't think, yet.

No, they're hard to come by. Even though we live in Minnesota, where I feel like there's a lot of people that roll coal around here. And it's so easy to pick up probably like a 2006 Dodge with a Cummins, and you just f******...

Big injectors, and that's all you need.

Freaking gnarly. Yeah.

Yeah, I have a truck sitting in my house right now, a 2011 LB7. I'm not an LB7, Jesus. It's a 2011 LTZ Chevy. It's got a seven and a half inch lift on it, and then the turbo was going out, so I threw a nine blade turbo in it, and the thing absolutely screams. Even at idle, it just sounds like it's an airplane. I want to get a big sticker that's on the side that says American Airlines.

That'd be a sweet sticker.

Yeah, the thing is absolutely loud, and yeah, I just turned my little dial up, and it just puts more pressure into my injectors, and it just absolutely just... Nobody knows I'm mad in that truck. All this black hole all over. Yeah, I don't give a s***. And the exhaust pipe, because it's so tall, goes right into their windows, so it's even more perfect.

Yeah, I'm always afraid of cutting off any truckers, because that's the last thing that I need is to get rolled cold on.

I'm not worried about that. So me and my brother kind of have a rule we live by. It's like, don't f*** with any pickup trucks that are 2015 or older. The new guys there, we'll see.

Oh yeah, you do something to my truck, that's why I call it Big Ugly. It's scratch, it's deaded. If somebody were to door ding me, I would just kick the door open. Boom! Hey, sorry about your car. I don't give a s*** and I'll drive away. I don't give a s***.

That's such a great name. Terry used to have a Prius back in the day, because we have a Terry on this podcast. He's got a Ferrari and a NSX and all that.

Oh, I know Terry.

Yeah, yep. But he used to have a Prius, and he kind of misses that car because he didn't give a s*** what happened to that car.

That's the best kind of car.

You need one of those cars.

One of the cars you don't give a s*** about.

Oh yeah, that's my 99 Jeep. It's got the big tires. If somebody was going to cut me off, I can hit you with my tires. My tires aren't going to show it, but your car is going to look like it got f***** up.

That's such a good looking Jeep, though. I would hate if anything happened to that thing.

Well, that's why I got to get bumpers put on it, big old cow pusher or something.

Yeah, that thing is so sick. I love that thing. I keep that thing forever. That car is perfect.

Oh, yeah, it is.

It's like that like weird brown, like the beige brown, but it's out there.

Yeah, that thing is old Cherokee.

Yeah, love it.

I think it's fricking legit, dude.

Perfect for the winter. Drives like a tank, even in like three inch deep snow on the road. Like everybody's going 35 and on a 55. I'm still doing 60 just go in the ditch and drive around them if you want. Yeah, exactly.

That's the best part, especially with my truck. Same thing.

Love it.

Just a tank in the snow.

Yeah.

I miss having my Gladiator. It was a little, it was a little b**** truck, a little hairdresser truck. But I mean, it was it was a fun thing. I miss it. Just go over the curbs driving to ditch like Eric. He just I don't know if I should say this on the podcast. I'm gonna say it anyway. He got a ticket driving on the shoulder because he has a TRX. He was just cooking in that thing. Yeah, I got into it with a TRX on the freeway yesterday.

Oh, really?

Me and my brother stood side by side at the stoplight, just creeped out one mile an hour, because he was acting like a dick. So we'll play games like that every once in a while, but...

Well, all you got to do is go 105 miles an hour and you can't catch you.

Is that what they're limited at?

I think it's like 105, 110, I think.

Oh, that's not that shabby.

That's a party foul.

It is. And it's because of their tires, they're not rated for high speeds. So...

Yeah, true.

So you can't go any faster than that. And then I think you just lose grip and you're all over the place.

Speaking of party fouls, do we want to bring up the Durango?

What's wrong with the Durango this time?

You remember the delimiter you had?

The what?

The limiter?

The limiter?

Yeah. So he got all this work done to the Durango.

When we went on...

My 2015 Chevy, my first one, that Reaper, 98.

That was the top speed?

That 98 miles an hour, I was like, I need to go find a shop to get this out.

That's a shame. Yeah. I hate that. It's like, you know, when the speedometer says like 140, and then it only lets you go up to like 100. And it's like, what'd you give me 144? Who is this for? Not for me, obviously.

It's for aesthetics. So when you're driving, they want the needle pointed straight up. Yeah.

So what was your Durango limited to?

So last year, I got it tuned for the first time. I think I just got like all my, all the mods done to it. And the tuner, whatever file they like, they thought they were the presets. It was like the speed limiter for all Durangos are like, it's set to like 120 or something. So I'm like flooring it. I'm thinking because I've gone like 160 in this car before and I'm like flooring it. I get to like 115 and then it just like shuts off. Like I lose all power. I'm like, you just hit a wall. Yeah. It was like, well, what just happened? Like, did I just break my car? Because I just picked it up first time I've gone like this fast in it. And I'm like, I'm calling my mechanic, Bryce, and I'm telling him like, hey, like something's wrong with the Durango. He's like, no, that's how fast it should be going. Like 120. Like that's the max speed. I'm like, that's absolutely not true. I've gone 160 in this. And then he's looking back through the files and he's like, oh, you want to know what your actual like, like, like limiter is at? I'm like, what is it? Like 200? He's like higher. I'm like 220 higher. He's like, it's set to like 280 miles an hour. Like that's what from factory it's usually set to. So then I limited. Yeah. So and then I'm like, OK, well, just like top it out at like 180. Like I'm never going to take it any faster than 180.

So yeah, that was so funny. Like we just that was the rest of the trip. We couldn't go over 120.

Yeah. Well, good thing.

Just holding it there, too, just to the floor. And it's just like, yeah, you got to take a wall.

I can't imagine that's good for your car.

No, because you rev it up that high for that long.

Yeah, my fricking brother. So we wanted to find out like what he was limited at, like actually in his golf and, you know, mine's twice the horsepower and two and all that stuff. So like you just take it up. He's like, yeah, I just hit a wall at 125.

That's the same for like a lot of scary.

My GTR, my speedo says 220, and I'm like, it would be so gnarly to see that needle hit 200.

I know.

But it's like, my God.

One day I want to hit the 200 mile per hour club.

I got close to it. I saw the needle hit 189 in a Viper.

I hit 180 in my 1M.

177 in my Camaro. I've never had another open road. I want to take this GTR and see how far it gets. I think it would get up there pretty high, but it's just finding a road that I'm not going to get put in jail right away and car impounded.

Eventually, you kind of just run out of gearing, though, right?

I'm pretty sure if you got a car going 200 miles an hour, they just pull you over and shoot you.

They're taking everything, literally.

Dude, I feel like at that point, you just keep going.

If you're doing a Valkyrie drift, you're going over 200. They don't even move.

They just look up, eh, f*** it.

202, eh, he's good.

So Sean was telling me you also won a giveaway car as well.

Oh, yeah, that was really cool. I saw you won a giveaway.

There's a drift page, and they just buy street cars, drift cars, and I've always been about that. I used to do the 8080 stuff, but to me, that just seems really rigged. You watch these videos of these guys walking in, just won a Ferrari, and he's just walking in like, yeah, sick. Dude, oh my God, I'm like, dude, I would be on the ground.

I'd be crying.

And I'd be like, you gave me 100 grand and a Ferrari? All right, cool, I'm gonna lay on the ground real quick. Like, it doesn't seem genuine to me. So I was like, whatever. And then I just did this small page, and then my buddy Austin, they got me into drifting. He actually won a car from them. So I was like, oh, it's actually legit. So like, I started going, going, whatever. Then I entered this car, and it's called a Jay-Z X90. I didn't even know what the hell it was. I was like, it's right-hand drive, and it's got a 1J. I'm like, sounds good to me. So then I entered it, and I'm playing Rocket League, just gaming on the computer, and Austin calls me. He's like, you won. I'm like, dude, I'm down one to three. I'm getting my a** kicked. What do you mean? I thought he was like, because a lot of my buddies will come in, and I'll be gaming. And they'll be standing behind me like, dude, you trash. Like, they'll call me, and he'll be like, yo, you're trash. And I'm like, nah, I'm down. What do you mean? He's like, no, you own the car. I'm like, what car? He's like, Jay-Z X90. I'm like, what the hell is a Jay-Z X90? He's like, dude, go on Facebook. I'm like, OK, I'm going on Facebook. And yeah, the guy called me. He's like, yeah, you just won this car. I'm like, sick, that's dope. I still don't even know what it is. And then, yeah, it showed up. And I was like, this is dope, like, super cool. I didn't even know it was a thing. And yeah, I love it now. Just right hand drive, just one Jay-Z. I don't even know how much horsepower. I need to have a dynoed.

How many giveaways had you entered at that point?

A lot.

A lot.

A lot. I was probably.

What was the score? Did you win the Rocket League game? No, you didn't come back.

He won in a different.

I actually left the game. I was with a buddy.

I was like, I got to go.

I guess I won a car, and I left the game.

Imagine your buddy being like, wait, what the f***?

He heard the whole conversation.

Yeah, he's just thinking like, what the is going on? He just got a car?

Yeah.

Was this Jeopardy?

I won a couple other things from them, too. Before that, I got second place on a raffle. They gave a car win. I got second place, and they gave me some really expensive rims. They sent me four expensive rims, like $4,000 in rims. And then I won that car, and then I just won another set of rims, some stage wheels. I was like, yeah. I probably has been in it since car number 12, 15, something like that. And then now they're on car number 60. But it's like that JZX90, I paid $600 bucks. It's $150 bucks per ticket. I paid $600 bucks for four. And then, yeah, I ended up winning it. The car is valued at $26,000. That's what they said that they bought it for. I was like, wow, that's kind of dope. And then, yeah. But now it's getting to the point where it's like they're giving away like 240s or like old. I'm like, I don't want a 240. Unless it's got like a super dope V8 in there or something. But yeah, I love it.

How many spots were in like the raffle?

I think that one was 350. No, maybe more than that.

That's decent odds, like one and a half percent odds or something.

That's what is that like?

So, but it's like adrenaline pumping, like, because they go on random.org and they type one to 350. And all of a sudden it's like bang. And then it hits your number and it's like, oh my God.

Dude, I used to gamble a s*** ton on CS go cases.

Oh my God, dude, they made 52,000. If they sold every ticket, they made 52 grand. When are you doing your giveaway?

So I actually talked to Charles. He actually works for MotionAutoTV. So they do giveaways like this too. That's actually how they make a good chunk of change. They actually did a podcast where they explain like how much, like they were pretty transparent about it. You know, so it's like, it's a good chunk of change. You can make off of giveaways, but it's also a lot of work.

A lot of people throw in a lot of stuff too. Like the wheels, usually they send wheels in, so that's another two to five, two to 4,000. Then they're giving away merch items. A lot of time they give away parts. They give away stuff like that. Like, yeah, they still said that they probably make probably 10, 15 grand, at least they still doubled up. Yeah, that's a good chunk of money. Yeah.

Well, you know, what do they say? Your profit margins got to be at least 50 percent. But it's like it's legit because like a lot of the times you have to buy merch, you know, like the 80, 80 stuff, you had to get their merch and all that stuff. So it's like they just make a killing on it. But they also take on a lot of risk too with those sort of things. I mean, now they got a good flow going. But like the first few, nobody could have known like, hey, is this going to work out?

So, oh, yeah, definitely. That's what I always think.

I'm like company to put up their first car that's like decent, like to buy a Ferrari or buy a Lambo or GTR. You got to have a GTR like 125. But a Lamborghini, you're talking 300 K.

Yeah.

Trey was telling me, I asked him like if he would ever do a waffle again. And he's like, yeah, no, it's just so much work.

It's a hassle.

Yeah.

So you have to make sure and go through and prove everything's legit. Like, yeah, double check everything. Because if one guy goes and starts badmouthing you because he thought it was unfair, you're dead.

Yeah.

People get really pissed about that kind of stuff. If they feel like they get cheated. Yeah. Well, that's the, you know, you get fingers cut off for that. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. We used to always look into like websites like when I used to like my CSGO gambling back in the day, like we would always be like, yeah, this site's a f****** scam. We just, you know, just goes just shouted from the rooftops and all. It's like, oh, f*** that site.

So, you know, like a lot of the giveaways, you can enter in them for free. Like you ever heard of Omaze? They do like I've heard of Omaze. They do like supercars. They give away vacations. They do like they give you a whole house. Yeah, dude, they give away like everything. Like if you're if you're into something there, they'll give it to you. And they have like, oh, you have to buy or whatever money you donate. It goes to like a charity. I don't know how they profit. I saw a video on how how they actually profit. But there's also like an opt out where it says like you can enter for free, but you can only enter like, you know, a thousand tickets. But that's still a thousand chances. But there's also everybody that also knows can get a thousand free chances. And then you also have people that are paying like a hundred dollars for, you know, extra chances. Yeah.

But there's a multiplier and all that stuff. Because like the thing is, if you got a thousand tickets, this guy's got one million.

It's like, yeah, then you get like the five times entry today. Yeah. I did the own boss thing. And like, I hated to do it like that was before all the giveaway. Like the own boss, they usually do a truck, a trailer, like a bobcat. I was like, I'd be sick to win like a big truck and a bobcat. And like, I like what they did. They did like a lot of the times, like 80, 80, you got to buy a shirt. You know, every $5 gets you whatever. It's like, you know, there's only a certain amount of shirts that I want. And then sometimes I'd buy two of one. You know, it's just like, I run out of s*** to buy. But like this own boss one, they had a shirt on there. It was $1,000. It just said, just give me my tickets. And then the shirt said, I like to gamble. This cost me this shirt cost me $1,000. So I bought it anyways. I still have it in my house. I'm like, I wear it around like they're like, is that shirt actually cost you $1,000?

I kind of want to buy that and show up at poker and be like, yeah, what's up? I like to gamble.

This shirt cost me $1,000 or $1,000 bucks.

I got 10 of these.

It was like it was like 10,000 tickets to buy it.

Pull that a little bit closer, by the way. Just pull the mic towards you, too. Yeah. But yeah, I made a big mistake on the Jim Hall episode. I'm sure some people gave me s*** for it, but like I when I was editing it, like I cut out all the like the low decibels or whatever. So like, it would taper off like this. It was so bad. I felt so bad. I was doing the highlights. I was like, oh, no, I was like, that's a f*** up. So yeah. So oops. So I don't do that anymore. But so you have all this, so if you only want that one giveaway car, then yeah, I wanted to.

Oh, really?

It's funny. I was like a two year split. He won like a oh, three to 350z with a cage and all this stuff. And then like two years later, he won another. I think it was an old five 350z cage. I was like, crazy. He won two cars back, like the same exact car.

So what does he even do with them?

Most of the time he just drives around and sells them. A lot of people win these cars and then they sell them.

Dude, I'd much rather take the cash, honestly.

Some dude, I think it was Drive Tribe or one of the big car websites posted. Some guy won from two different giveaways. He won a TRX and a Evo 8.

Oh, I saw that. He had to pay the taxes and I think he had to sell it. Cause like you gotta pay a gift tax. And it was like crazy, like 10k plus dollars. I think that's why they give you the cash on top of the cars, so you can basically pay off the tax.

A lot of it, like there's another one that's called the Lab or something, the Legends. And they'll give you like a hundred thousand. So they'll give you, I think 64.

Yeah, they got like a Porsche car tax.

They'll give you 60 for like the tax, and then they'll give you the other 40 for the next three years insurance.

Oh, that's nice.

That's legit.

Yeah, cause a lot of people can't afford the insurance on those cars.

I couldn't afford an insurance on a Lamborghini. Like that's a house payment for a lot of people.

Yeah, it's up there.

You know what's funny? So actually speaking of insurance on Lamborghinis, I was talking to this kid that is in my neighborhood that Amazon, whatever kid.

The 19 year old Jeff Bezos.

Yeah, 19 year old Jeff Bezos. So he posted on his story what he's like the payment he just paid on his Lamborghini. It was like $2,100 or whatever. So I'm like, hey, hold up, I got a guy. Cause like a lot of people in the car community, they go to somebody called Matt Nelson. He's down in Chicago or whatever. He will hook, like he's like an insurance broker. And he saved my a** a couple of times or that one time on the rally, whatever. But yeah, a bunch of people go to him. He saves him a s*** ton of money cause he just finds somebody new to do insurance through. So I sent it, I sent the details of this kid or whatever. He's like, yeah, 19 years old for a Lamborghini. He's a really tough one to insure. So he's like, yeah, that probably ain't gonna work out.

A lot of liability on there.

Yeah, cause he's got a ton of like insurance, whatever like companies that he works with, but like none of them will insure under 25 when it comes to exotics. Like I know my friend, he had a GTR at 19, 20. Even that car, they didn't want to insure. Like it was just ridiculous. Like I think even Hagerty wasn't wanting to do it for him. But to be fair, that kid, he had a lot of f****** tickets. But yeah, it's freaking nuts, like 2,000 a month. But it's like, that's only if you're super young. Like I think like once again, just super car insurance, it's actually not too terrible. I think the AMG is 300, maybe?

Well, yeah, your dad's what, in his 40s?

Yeah, yeah.

So there's two big drop offs. It's when you turn 25 and then 30, that's when your insurance rates go down. So I'm waiting for 30 before I start, you know, maybe considering even looking at cars like that.

Yeah, for me.

Perfectly fine with a Durango and a BMW. These cars do it for me.

Well, it sucks around here. It's like, oh, I want a McLaren. Oh, my neighbor's got one. This guy's got one. This guy's got one. There's seven on this block.

Yeah. The GTR.

I want a Lamborghini. Oh, there's three of them around here. Oh, I want an R8. My neighbor has one. Right up the street. They got one.

That's where you start getting into builds.

Yeah. Terry's got one. Well, that's what I like about, you know, building out cars.

And that's why I learned that building is better than buying. That Camaro, I bought it. It was fast. But then I built the Evo, and now that's even more fast.

And plus, we drive our cars. I never see any of these cars on the road. So it's so different versus when you buy it and you just hold it and it just sits in your garage versus taking it out and showing it off or not showing it off, but sharing it with the people.

I won't buy a car unless I can daily it.

Even in the winter?

Well, my GTR is different. Around here, I would never, but I would never buy a car just to look at it. I could never.

No Garage Queens.

Like my GTR, the car had 80, 900 miles on it when I bought it. The guys had it from 2016 and it had 8,900 miles on it. I put 750 on it in the two weeks I had it.

That's ridiculous. Well, that's the thing.

Oh, I could go to the gas station and take the GTR. I had these kids run out of a car, stop me in the middle of a road, and they did a photo shoot in the middle of the road and then ran away. It was crazy. They were geeked. They're like, can we take some pictures?

I'm like, sure, go ahead.

Yeah, the guy was laying on the ground with the phone, you know, like everything.

Yeah, you got to give the people what they want.

Yeah, the same thing with the, I have an R34 GTT. People love seeing that thing.

You have an R34? What?

Yeah. This is a stock GTT, but I have the R34.

It doesn't matter. It looks like an R34.

I have a 32, a 34, and a 35.

You got the holy trinity.

Is it blue?

No.

What color is the 34?

It's white. All my Skylines are white. My 91 is white. My 35 is white. And my 34 is white.

I wonder if I've ever seen the 34 around. Did you ever bring it to Cars and Coffee when I was over here or anything?

You don't really go to car shows.

I don't really do car shows.

Really?

I wanted to show my car out. I'd show up, I'd park it, and I'd lock it and walk away.

Well, that's not what you're supposed to do, and I feel like...

Yeah, that's what we do.

There's kind of two camps when it comes to people, but like me, I would never just go to a car show and show off my car. My car is my car. I didn't buy it to impress people. I bought it to impress myself.

That's the best way to live about it, too. I don't know. There's kind of two camps, and I give people s*** for this all the time. It's like, you go and sit right next to your car the whole time, let people approach you, and then you talk about it, which is boring because you keep repeating the same thing. Or you park your s***, let people enjoy it, but then you go walk around, see what everybody else is up to. That's the way we like to operate. We'll go walk around. We don't want to stay in one spot for too long.

My funnest thing I like to do, I used to go to truck shows all the time because I had a big, lifted truck. So I'd go to the truck show, and I'd always bring a buddy with me. And if somebody came up to be like, oh, whose truck? I'd point at him and be like, it's his, and I'd walk away. So then he got stuck talking to everybody. And it was like, that was just my favorite thing, like, it's his, and then I'd walk away. I'd do it to my lady all the time, like, oh, whose car is it? It's hers, and I'll walk away.

That's so funny.

She's like, what's into it? She's like, I don't know.

She's like, oh, poser.

Yeah, exactly. I'm like, whatever.

I'm going to start doing that to you.

That's fine.

You know nothing about any of my cars. You're going to be like, actually, I'll be right back.

I could spitball a lot of stuff. I could be like everybody at Brainerd and be like, oh, it's 1,000.

You could just say a whole bunch of stupid s***.

You could just mad libs it. That would be hilarious.

I should just start coming up with up search it. Yeah, the Durango's got a 2J in it. Just start f****** with people.

Can you pop the hood? No, the latch don't work.

That actually would be hilarious. Oh, my God. I should get the microphone. What do you think's in this car? Like those interview style videos? Yeah, it's freaking ridiculous. So do you have any upcoming events you're doing besides the Drifttober?

There's Drifttober and Fargo, and then there's one in Brainerd, too. They're both called Drifttober. But other than that, I don't really have anything. But what's cool about that, back to the R34, back in 2017 when I had that R32, I tore it all apart and I bought an R34 GTR engine with the tranny. So I never used it. I was going to put it in the R32. I never used it. But now I have the R34. Exactly. So I'm going to put the GTR body kit on, then swap the RB26 and make it all-wheel drive. So I'll have a GTR.

The rattling from the can is driving me insane. Oh my god. It just kept rattling off his...

Your whole deal with transplanting and taking the hearts from everything, and you're like, oh no, this is going over here, this is going over here.

Then the R34 motor is an RB25 NIO, and I'll put that in the R32.

That'll be sweet.

But what's crazy is like right now, just the transmission, because those things became legal in May, I bought the car for 38 grand, imported to the US, 38,000. They said that exactly May 1st, that price would have went from 38 to 55, just because of it's legal.

Yeah.

So, I pre-ordered it and left it in Japan from December to May, and then as soon as May hit, they shipped it here. And it's, yeah. So, now just that motor is worth like 25,000, and then the transmission is worth like 16, and I paid 16 for both.

What kind of idiot would play a stock market just buy Japanese cars that are about to become legal? That's how you get really rich. That's freaking sick.

How would you know? Back then, I didn't know. I just wanted an R34 GTR motor.

Yeah.

That's actually really interesting that you bring that point up because I was always wondering when they become legal. There's one or two things that could happen. It's either the market gets flooded and the price goes down.

Depending on the build date.

Yeah, yep. Either the market gets flooded and everything goes down or what happened here, the price has just shot up. So I was actually really curious to see how that played out.

It would be like the early adopters obviously would get in, but the longer you wait, the more that the market's going to get flooded with R34s. Because everybody who's buying R34s for like 300 plus thousand dollars in a V-Spec, V-Spec or anything like that, you're not touching it for less than 250. So what I'm curious to see is in maybe five, I want to say probably like five to seven years what the prices end up actually falling back down to because-

They'll probably come down because it'll be flooded here.

Yeah, because a lot of people are buying them and they're holding on to them and they're going to sell them here for a crazy amount of money. And then all of a sudden, there's going to be a f*** done in them getting sold in here.

Potentially, but I think what will happen-

There's a market cap for everything, right?

The market right now is super high because they're limited. Only 98s are eligible. 99s aren't eligible until next year.

Exactly. So that's what I mean. The market cap is super high, but once you get more cars, then it's going to muddy the waters. It's going to get back down to probably like 100k. I want to say-

Chump change for a guy like me.

No, but I mean, right now, you're seeing Supras sell for like 100k, and they're modded untastefully, and people are still asking for high 90s for them. And it's like, whoa, these were selling for like 30k stock back in 2017, 2018.

I love seeing the price tags of those cars. Brand new.

Yeah.

15 grand.

Yeah, MSRP.

Like, a guy that I met down in Tampa bought a s*** ton of like Kudas and stuff like back in like the 70s when they were like, what, three grand, four grand, whatever. It's like, dude, Sando's cars command a million now. It's like insane. Yeah. So I think it's gonna be interesting. I think the prices will come down, but I think we're gonna see what happened with the Supra. It's gonna start taking off again after like five, 10 years, probably.

See, that's what's crazy about the Supra, though, is like left hand drive Supras are worth more than a right hand drive Supra.

Yeah, really?

Because you gotta think every United States is the only state or only country that has left hand drive. Every other country is right hand. So there's more Supras that are right hand drive than there are left hand drive Supras.

Oh, so they're rare.

So it's a rare, it's a more rare thing to have a left hand drive Supra. I always thought it would be just like, it's cool to have a right hand drive Supra. But I think of it like as a more poor man Supra than like an actual genuine Supra.

I always thought of it as like the collector status like you want, you know, because it's Fast and Furious. The only reason why this car is so popular is because of Fast and Furious.

Same with the R34.

Same with the R34.

People don't even know what they were till Fast and Furious came out.

Exactly. So that's why I see like the right hand drive. Like people want almost like a one-to-one replica of, you know, Paul Walker or somebody, you know, some car from that movie. Like they want like the genuine thing. You know, what did Paul Walker's Supra sell for? Like over $500,000 or something?

Something.

It keeps going up. Every time it gets sold, it's like another hundred grand.

Well, especially like once that generation comes into wealth, which we are starting to see nowadays, like every 19 year old is rich, apparently, it's like as those people come of age, that price is going to keep going and going. Kind of like the Audi R8, it's like the first gen. Their price has been flying up again because that's the Ironman car everybody saw back then.

Tony Stark drives that.

Yeah. That's how I see it as the first gen being the Tony Stark car.

When are you going to get the patch down here to look like Tony Stark?

Halloween. Halloween, I'll start growing out right now.

Are you going to be able to grow it in time? You don't grow very fast, do you?

How dare you?

I've never seen you with a full beard.

No, because I can't.

You can't? See? You would.

I have weak jeans.

Have you thought about getting more expensive jeans?

No.

Do you bedazzle your jeans? No. I'm done with the stupid jokes. So you seem like a big Nissan guy. Do you have any... have you had a Mark IV Supra?

I have never. I've never had a Supra or anything like that. I never had an RX-7. I kind of just went with the Skyline route for a while.

Okay.

And then I went EVO. But it's just like everything fun kind of landed in the Japanese side. Like turbo... anything turbo related was always Nissan or Mitsubishi. Like it was way more fun to have turbos. Because like there's nothing cooler than when you spool up turbo and it just hits and you just get slammed into your seat. Like, any like US car, like Camaro, like they never came. They came supercharged. But that was just a burnout machine, you know. Like my Camaro had a pro charger on it and you stomped on it at a red light. You're sitting there, but there's a big cloud behind you. My EVO, I take off and I'm just gone like a rocket ship.

It's ridiculous when you start like modifying some of these like American motors though. Like we just had Mo on three episodes ago. He's got an LS Swapped RX-7 and it's like only 620 wheel right now.

And the torque, the torque is what's crazy. He just grabs, just goes.

And he was telling us it's capable of 1400 if you wanted to. It's like frickin nuts. Like the other day, I actually got to go. I'm actually dropping this video here soon too, the swapping keys up. So actually by the time this podcast should be out, but I went for a ride in a twin turbo R8 and it was, you know, low boost, five PSI, nothing crazy, but it's like 820 wheel. And it's like we got into fourth gear and I just wanted to keep going.

Just ridiculous to pull like my GTR is constant pull. You just constantly get sucked into that seat. It's like no letting off.

Yeah, I haven't been in a faster GTR. I think the fastest GTR I've been in was 600 ish wheel. So I've never been in like a thousand horsepower one. I love to see what that compares like, because I know AJ used to have like a 1500 horsepower one, but he loves his fricking, he's got a calvo viper right now. And that's like also 1500 wheel, just it's different.

Yeah, what's it called? Al was working on a 1600 horsepower GTRs on bead locks, all that stuff.

What color is it?

It's red.

Red, okay.

And it's like a maroon. He was working on it, and he's like, this transmission sounds funny. Can you come like hear it? So the guy showed up and he gave me a ride, and the transmission, it had straight cut gears, so it whined, but it would grab really weird. It would be like a thump. Like, yeah, mine does the same thing. He's like, okay, cool. But it was having some problems with the ECU. It would go into limp mode. He gave me a five second pull, and it literally just felt like somebody just took their hand and just slapped me into the seat. And I was like, wow, my GTR does not feel like that.

It's ridiculous. I used to explain to people, so I went for a ride on my buddy's twin turbo Viper, and I think it was 1800 wheel or whatever at the time. And the way I like to explain it to people, it's like, if you were to jump off a building, for whatever reason, let's say things aren't going well in life, if you were to jump off a building, and the moment that your face meets that concrete, that's the level of force that that car does, even in fourth gear. It just keeps going. It just gets more and more and more power. And it's just the more fast cars I've been in, it's just, it's nuts.

It's so hard to explain that feeling to somebody.

Unless you feel it, yeah.

Like what do you mean? Like I could tape a hundred dollar bill to the dash, and you won't be able to touch it.

That's the whole test.

Yeah, so that's something I think...

My Evo is the same way. You just can't touch it.

Yep.

We've talked to some people with higher horsepower cars where it's stages of power where, in first gear, you don't need 1,500 horsepower. The car only uses, what, maybe 400, 500, and then you get in the second gear, then it goes up to 1,000, and then you get... As you go up to the gears, that's how you feel that progressively more power, because as you're going up the gears, you're unlocking more power, because otherwise, first gear couldn't handle 1,200. It literally would shear the teeth instantly.

You would just blow the tires off. We just had a tuning special with Kyle Larkin, who does a ton of tuning over at MAP Performance.

That's like saying modern automotive performance performance.

Sure, whatever. But why you gotta kill my flow, bro? But no, like-

I'm just letting you know, it's MAP for a reason. Not M-A-P-P.

You done?

Yeah.

He's like, I gotta clarify. But no, like we learned so much about tuning, and it's like, it's ridiculous. Like, again, I just have a lot of, no, I shouldn't say knowledge, but I've been around the Viper people a lot. It's like, oh, well, it's like 800 in first gear or whatever, and it just unlocks more and more and more. It's like, I forgot what the other term is, but I know boost by gear was really popular, and I think a lot of people still use it, but there's like another level of like tuning. I don't know, maybe Kyle brought it up, but.

Yeah, we gotta actually, I think we need an expert on.

Yeah, I'm not gonna, I'm not talking out of my a**, but it's just ridiculous how it just keeps going and going and going. But yeah, just something about fast cars, dude.

It's all about fast cars. That's literally like, that's my addiction is cars and being, going fast.

Yeah.

Like, it's, that's what makes everything.

Yeah, I think we're gonna see more and more people like discover, like that's one of the other reasons that Viper has just shot up in prices because it's such a great platform to work on. Like I know some guy here within a neighborhood and just picked up a white Viper or whatever.

That's my neighbor.

That's your neighbor?

Okay, he's like, can I borrow your dually? I'm like, no, nobody just borrows my dually. He's like, what if we do a trade? I'm like, it'd have to be a good trade. He's like, I'll give you my Viper. I'm like, take the dually.

Sure, go ahead.

My $80,000 dually is no compared to his $160,000 Viper. Sure, I'll take that. So then I drove around for like probably two weeks straight, but it's crazy. It was a six-speed manual, and it's just like, but what blew my mind is how fast it redlined. Yeah, I thought it was going to go like way up, and it's just like you're in first gear and wham, redline. Second gear, redline. Third gear, redline. Then fourth gear, it actually catches up. Like you pretty much just boom, boom, boom. And then you're caught up.

Yeah, I can't wait to finally get to be in one. I've never even sat in one.

What's crazy, though, is that Viper is only like 750 wheel, but there's no spin. It's just hook. You step on that gas, you're hooked.

Yep. Yeah, it's ridiculous. So I went for a ride in a naturally aspirated one a few weeks ago. I've mentioned this story like six times on this podcast, but when you rev that thing out, it sounds like a bat out of hell.

And his has got cams, so it lopes.

Yeah, he told me he heard it. Didn't you say you pulled up next to it the other day or something?

No, I was coming back from Canterbury and I heard him pass me. I'm like, damn, that thing sounded insane.

It's got the drag pack on it. The front tire is only about four inches wide. The back tire is like a 300.

Yeah, just ridiculous. Yeah, I've seen that car around town. I think the second or third time I saw it, I'm like, oh, that's really loud.

Yeah, it's loud.

Yeah, it'd be sweet to see that thing have a pair of twins on it.

Oh, yeah.

Because that's the platform.

So like, he was the fastest in the neighborhood. And then I bought the GTR, and then we told him my GTR is only 700 horsepower, so he brought his R8 out. And then he took off, and I stepped on it, and just shoo right past him. And he's like, yep, selling the R8. I'm over it.

But that's the thing, you could build the s*** out of those R8s, too. It's like ridiculous.

Really expensive. I mean, they're all expensive.

I mean, if you want a twin turbo and R8, it's like 70 grand. It's up there.

Yeah, but you also get triple the car.

I don't want to put bigger turbos in my GTR. It's like 14 grand.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, we were talking about this. Who were we talking with this? It comes in tiers. GTRs are kind of like that 650 wheel, then you get to 800 wheel, then 1,000, then 1,400, and it just keeps going. Then you start talking about six-figure invoices. It just gets ridiculous.

You're getting up there.

Yeah, dude, that's freaking nuts. Do you have any, what are you aspiring to get next car-wise?

Gee, I've been looking around for like, you know, I think my like, ultimate car I wanted when I turned 18 was a Falcon F7.

Okay.

And it was like a twin-turbo 1200 horsepower V8. I was like, that would have been so cool. It looked really cool. You'd have to Google what it looks like. But like something different, like something that's not around here, like not an R8, not a McLaren, nothing like that. I don't even know what I would get next. Like, I'm satisfied with this GTR. It's just hard to come by. Maybe something new came out. If Nissan unveiled a brand new R36, something like that.

It's weird, dude. It's such a weird time.

It's kind of a lull. There's not really anything new.

Cause like, yeah, it's weird. Like there's just rumors, various brands, like various brands are just kind of like waiting to see how things shake out. Like I'd love to see a gen six Viper. I don't think we'll ever see it. If they bring it back as a V8 Hybrid. Yeah. But that's the thing, brands do this all the time. Like think about it, they discontinued the Camaro for like a decade.

I think they discontinued the GTR, oh, to the f****** 2009.

Yeah, exactly. That's the other lull. Like the 2000 to like 2008, a lot of brands came back during the recession or just after, cause like the Challenger came back, the Charger came back. It's like there was this lull. So I wonder what's gonna happen with Nissan. Like what's gonna be their next big thing?

I know what sucks about Nissan is I had a 2010 Nissan GTR and I put it up next to a 2020. Only thing that was different was the headlights and the display.

Yeah.

Everything else is exactly the same.

Yeah, it's just like the 370z's, they made them up to a 2017 and they're no different than the ones in 2009 or what? Like same interior. It's like just the exterior styling.

Just a little facelift.

Different taillights, different headlights. Little different grill. Same thing.

Frickin nuts, dude.

Yeah, Nissan just loves keeping things the way that they are.

Yeah, what about the challenges, Sean, Mr. Melpar?

What do you mean?

The challenge has been the same since 2008 as well.

Well, they just canceled it. Oh, actually, no, that's not true. They did it 2008 and then they updated it in 2012. It's not a facelift because they did a whole new drivetrain, they did an all new interior, a whole new exterior. That's not a facelift.

Listen, Stacey down at Dairy Queen isn't gonna know the difference.

No, it still looks the same.

They went from a five-speed to an eight-speed. They went from a 6.1 to 6.4.

Stacey will know exactly all that.

And later to 6.2.

She's gonna be like, what's a five-speed? Should we?

Something wrong with you.

Is that a Hemi?

Yeah, so if you don't, if you haven't listened to the show before, we like to ask our guests at the end of the show this one simple question. You just gotta pick three cars. One of them's your daily, one of them's your track car, one of them's your show car. You got unlimited budget. Your imagination's the limit, so.

You just gotta pick. So I have to pick three cars, unlimited budget, track, daily, Show car. Show car. Well, I'm gonna go unrealistic is all I have. My daily is gonna be a Kona Seca Gera.

There you go.

Perfect, unlimited budget, fits the bill.

My race car, I don't even know. I'd probably go F1, Formula One car.

Okay, do you have any?

So far, you have the wildest answers.

Dude, people failed.

You really took the.

You faced race car, open wheels.

You really took the unlimited budget to heart in your imagination.

If I could have these cars, I could go f*** around with them. I would just go nuts.

I'm gonna take it one step further though. If you were to do an F1 car for a race car, would you do like one of the V10s, like a V8?

Or what?

A V10, it's got a scream.

The V10 screamers?

It's got a scream.

Not these hybrid V6s?

No. And then I guess my show car, I don't even know.

You just pull up in the F1.

Don't make it easy.

Show up in the Aguera.

Yeah, what's gotta be your show?

Trailing the F1.

I don't even know.

Like dude, there was a Restomod 69 Charger with a Hellcat motor, like a drivetrain yesterday at Medina Motorplex. That was a sweet looking car, dude. Yeah, this is a tough one. Show up, like a lot of people struggle either on the day, like they struggle on one part.

I got it. The Shockwave Semi. The Semi with the afterburner on it.

That'd be the show, that'd be actually sickest.

Shockwave, is that a?

It's a Semi with three afterburners on it. No, it's a Semi with it's like a drag truck.

Yeah, I've seen it. Have you ever seen the videos of it, Sean? Like when it's like staging?

Dude, it's crazy, it's just like, oh god.

Dude, I love it when they get all showy. They're just like, poof, poof, poof.

It's like they start shooting flames out of it.

Yeah, well congrats. You definitely have the wildest answers we've ever had.

A lot of people try to be realistic, and it's like, no, you got an unlimited budget.

Unlimited budget? I'm rolling around in a Garra every day of my life. It's full carbon fiber body, I could drive in the winter.

Would you do that? Yeah, no rust. Would you do that, or would you do the Gamera, the four-seater? It's the hybrid, though, so.

You put the baby in the back seat.

Nah.

Stick with the Aguero?

Two-seater all day.

Sorry, can't take the baby.

Sorry, can't. Actually, she can come. You guys stay here.

Well, you could always do what AJ does, because he rolls around in that twin turbo RA. He used to have a twin turbo Lambo, too. His wife would take one. He would take the other, and they had a baby seat, so they'd bring each of the kids. It's the most baller thing ever.

Yeah, when I had both GTRs, we went cruising, I think, once or twice, and Sheila, it was super cool. It was me and her cruising, and they were both white, so we were both cruising our GTRs.

That's sick.

Then I sold it just to get rid of it.

So, is there any, do you have any social media or anything where people could find you or anything like that?

I mean, most of my stuff goes through Al's Drift Shop or my, like my personal account. A lot of people tag me and stuff. Most of the time, I don't post anything.

You like to be low-key? Yeah, so Al's Drift Shop, pretty much.

Yeah, they post all my videos, and my lady posts my videos, but most of the time, yeah.

Sweet.

I have an Instagram, but I don't really use it. You go on there, and it's my car in pieces.

I have the same problem.

Yeah, for whatever reason, I give Sean hundreds of photos. Never post them.

You do not.

I buy my phones the same way, loaded. I got cool videos, ultimate super cool things, and I'm like, sick, close my phone.

Yeah, keep it for yourself. All right, Sean, where can people find you?

All right, everybody, you can find me on Instagram at 1mnmopar. You just check out the BMW and Durango on there, and other content, hopefully soon.

Yeah, because we're gonna be doing a rally this weekend. That's gonna be fricking sweet. So we'll be posting a good bit on that. So it'll probably be too late by the time this episode goes, but you can maybe get lucky and shoot Daniel Balto a message if you wanna go, if you haven't decided yet. It's gonna be such a last minute thing.

Yeah, that is so last minute.

I think there's gonna be 20 cars going though. I saw the lineup. I'll show you the lineup once we get off air here, but it's a sweet fricking lineup.

I can't wait.

As for me, I'm gonna look directly at the camera for this. You already are on the podcast. You already found me at Minnoxide, literally everything. Do me a favor if you wanna stay up to date on everything from the podcast to the giveaways, all that fun stuff. Just go to minnoxide.com, sign up for the newsletter. Other than that, thanks for coming on, man. That was a pretty sweet conversation. Sean, thanks for existing. See you all next time.